Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines?

   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines?
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#11  
The service I've used is amazing in that they don't leave a twig or sign equipment was there (ruts). I'm talking to wife about a nice fence, but she wants a hedgerow. A fast growing hedgerow would probably be the best option but I don't want something I'd have to trim or pay trimming. Low maintenance. Deer resistant.
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #12  
It doesn't look like more than a load or 3; nobody is gonna mobilize in for free for that.

Anything less than about 10 loads, even for marketable trees; you likely need to pay to have them take.
It depends on your local loggers. In many places there are small operators with a chainsaw and self loading truck. I’ve sold small 1 and 2 load sales to those types of operators in the past. Check with local state forestry people to see if they can make a referral to a suitable operator. I’ve sold 2000 board foot sales and 200 million board foot sales. The big sales are sold to sawmills and the small sales to gypo loggers who will sell their single load as gate wood at the sawmill.
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #13  
Check with local state forestry people to see if they can make a referral to a suitable operator.
That!
You might have a good group of pine poles. Which go for more $/ton.

In Mississippi, 2Q 2025
Pine poles were averaging $33.53/ton, sawtimber $21.73/ton link to Ms. prices
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #14  
I had a similar situation 6 years ago with a row of white pine along a property line. 26 trees, all around 16" in diameter and 50 - 60' tall.

Tried to get loggers to take them but none were interested.

Prices for tree services to remove them ranged from 5 to 7K.

The neighbor and I cut them all down, limbed them, piled the slash with the grapple and rented a stump grinder. We then burned the piles after the first snowfall.

I stacked the logs to make a backstop for my shooting range.

I only needed 6' height for privacy, so instead of replanting, I installed 6' vinyl fencing. Cost a few $$ more, but well worth it considering the easy maintenance.

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   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #15  
I understand the timing issue. I'm 75 and keep planting things that I may never see fully developed. Oh, well, someone will. I'm not sure about your area, but have you considered tall grasses? They will be tall in the first year or two depending on the variety. I cut mine down in the spring, but you don't have to. I've seen people plant two rows and cut one row down each year.

Maintenance is very low. When I do cut mine down, I use a serrated machete and it's really quick.
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #16  
It depends on your local loggers. In many places there are small operators with a chainsaw and self loading truck. I’ve sold small 1 and 2 load sales to those types of operators in the past. Check with local state forestry people to see if they can make a referral to a suitable operator.
I wouldn't imagine that any loggers are going to clean up/haul away any of the slash, certainly not someone who's doing it for free or low cost in exchange for the wood.
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #17  
I wouldn't imagine that any loggers are going to clean up/haul away any of the slash, certainly not someone who's doing it for free or low cost in exchange for the wood.
Sure would be cheaper to do slash cleanup than paying a tree service $400 per tree. But that’s me. Timber is what I do and how I think. I hate seeing good sawlogs bucked up for firewood. For nice straight sawlog stumpage, they should do slash cleanup too. It looks like there’s one truck load. It would be better to have a forester handle negations. Loggers tend to take advantage of homeowners.
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines?
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I'll explore different options. The tree service charged $400 for one tree I certainly understand. If they cut 20 it wouldn't be $8000
because their men and equipment would all be here. My wag would be $2500(?). Everything chipped would make a huge pile and that's worth a lot to me.
 
   / Road privacy shrubs & cutting white pines? #19  
I'm 73 so time isn't on my side. I can cut trees myself but close to road is dangerous (falling on a car!
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With meticulous notching on days with little or no wind or a breeze coming from the road to your property, the trees should fall away from the road. You could add extra assurance by rigging a guy or "preventer" (5/8" or greater line, doubled, and rigged from as high as you can comfortably place it on the tree to a 2-1 or 3-2-1 picket with tension). The idea is not to pull the tree down but to prevent it from falling toward the road.

If no tree harvester comes forward and agrees to meet your clean-up criteria in a timely manner. The $400 per tree, even with a quantity discount, may cause you to rationalize the purchase of a 4-6" chipper and do the work yourself. I would plant new trees between the pine stumps after cutting the stumps low and leaving them to rot under chip mulch rather than grinding them. If the new hedgerow is not dense enough (see your post #8), I would stagger a 2nd row 3-5' in from the pine line. This process could be gradual, a few or several trees at a time

Evergreens will provide year-round privacy. My choice would be Thuja Green Giant which has proven to be both a fast grower and deer resistant in my neighborhood. I planted 4-5' Green Giant in '23 that is now 8' tall. Beware Thuja Emerald Green that has proven to be "deer food." I have also planted Thuja American Nigra (now called the more politically correct American Black) without deer damage except in the snowy winter of 2015.
 
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