Those #+%^ engineers!

   / Those #+%^ engineers! #61  
Friend told me of a Camry that had to have the inner front fender removed to replace the battery.
Didn't have to remove inner fender but passenger front tire. 2000 Dodge Intrepid had panel in wheel well to remove and slide battery out, much easier with no tire in way
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #62  
I would like to curse the first person to place batteries in insane places, justifying it with "jump points" to provide some convenience.

What a monster.
Yup, 2017 Jeep GC Limited has main and aux. battery under passenger seat. Yes 2 different size batteries. Passenger seat must be removed to access batteries.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #63  
My 2008 GMC 2500HD with the Duramax and dual batteries was worse. Battery was behind the left headlights with a solid plate between them on the radiator support. No way to reach in and get to the back of the bulbs by just removing the battery or from the top. First step was removing the grill to get at the bolts for the left fender, second step was to remove the left fender to access the headlight housing screws, third step was to remove the headlight housing and replace the bulb. The right headlights only required removing the breather box for the air filter, there was a hole in the radiator support to get to the back of the headlight housing.
Sounds like my old 2002 D'max dually.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #64  
Speaking of Jeep from experience.
Blend actuator doors that get stuck on the drivers side due to the rubber coating in the body warping. Only way to fix is to remove the whole heater core and dash. I tried to find a place big enough to drill to bypass the door, with no luck.
And a clock motor to drive the passenger and drivers side hvac doors with a little plastic gear, that breaks every few years.
Yes the main battery is under the passenger seat, so in order to remove I had to hook a battery to the underhood jump points to move the seat forward, back, forward, back in order to replace the battery!

One of the headlight power supplies went bad, in order to replace the whole front bumper and grill need to come off to get the headlight out, as the driver is under the headlight assembly.

Plastic oil pan, but has a skid plate. However, over time the plastic warps and weeps oil. I mean an off road capable vehicle with a plastic oil pan :rolleyes:

Computers under the drivers seat and passenger seat, wonder what happens when you spill something......


New cars, no dipsticks at all, everything through the front dash console.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #65  
Yup, 2017 Jeep GC Limited has main and aux. battery under passenger seat. Yes 2 different size batteries. Passenger seat must be removed to access batteries.

It's just great, it's where we all know batteries should go.

The HMMWV (Humvee) has them under the front passenger seat, but that seat at least is easy to remove. They don't have an interior meant to impress, lol.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #66  
I havnt had to do it, but I was told I have to remove the rubber inner liner above tire to replace the headlight lamps in my 2020 F150. What a PITA.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #67  
Had an 04 Accord that you had to go in through the wheel well to replace headlights. Lots of sharp steel edges in a small space without enough room to grab anything. I was glad I only had to do one light...
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #68  
Speaking of Jeep from experience.
Blend actuator doors that get stuck on the drivers side due to the rubber coating in the body warping. Only way to fix is to remove the whole heater core and dash. I tried to find a place big enough to drill to bypass the door, with no luck.
And a clock motor to drive the passenger and drivers side hvac doors with a little plastic gear, that breaks every few years.
Yes the main battery is under the passenger seat, so in order to remove I had to hook a battery to the underhood jump points to move the seat forward, back, forward, back in order to replace the battery!

One of the headlight power supplies went bad, in order to replace the whole front bumper and grill need to come off to get the headlight out, as the driver is under the headlight assembly.

Plastic oil pan, but has a skid plate. However, over time the plastic warps and weeps oil. I mean an off road capable vehicle with a plastic oil pan :rolleyes:

Computers under the drivers seat and passenger seat, wonder what happens when you spill something......


New cars, no dipsticks at all, everything through the front dash console.
What model is this? My 2020 Wrangler has the batteries under the hood and there’s no need to remove the bumper to replace headlights. And it doesn’t have a plastic oil pan.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #69  
I had an uncle who bought a small Ford car years ago, Fiesta I think, and it needed a water pump. The dealer quoted a high labor price because of one very hard to access bolt.
So he drove it home and drilled a 1" hole in inner fender where bolt was. That reduced the water pump bill a lot.
Back home he put a 1" rubber plug in the hole.
 
   / Those #+%^ engineers! #70  
I havnt had to do it, but I was told I have to remove the rubber inner liner above tire to replace the headlight lamps in my 2020 F150. What a PITA.
Daughters Journey is the same way and a battery no bigger than what you'd find on a motorcycle but not priced accordingly. Really helps when it gets covered in salty road crap.
 

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