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Everything that I’ve seen, read and heard had me believing the improvements and updates to the L2502 were mostly cosmetic, comfort and convenience based. But, there’s more to it than that. The L2502 has a new updated D1703 engine and Kubota has moved and changed many items under the new hood...

I’d be tempted to have them come get the tractor on principle alone. Assuming you like the tractor and wish to keep it, I’d make sure their offer is in line with their current advertising. Times have changed. That said, I’d also look at the alternative options. If something looks better...

^^^^^ Much less expensive on ZT compared to a tractor. Mike

I didn't continue KTAC once my tractors were paid off. I too found it expensive. My equipment is covered under my homeowners policy. However, KTAC, did have slightly better and more focused coverage. Mike

I’ve had R14’s on both my tractors. I like them, no issues, no complaints. Great traction in virtually all conditions. However, I haven’t owned a tractor with R1’s so I can’t make a fair comparison between the two. Mike

Government creates policy which affects the business environment which can lead to businesses increasing pricing, hence inflation. Printing more money certainly doesn’t help, and it too, in most cases, leads to inflation. Supply and demand also play their part as well. Mike

Congrats! Mike

And they must be made in China! ;) Mike

We redesigned the Turbo Intake Charge Pipe so the factory Kubota hood prop rod absorber can be used and function as intended; This redesign was a necessity! Opening the hood was extremely awkward without the assist of the absorber and holding it up with a broomstick was utterly ridiculous...

Are you referring to those tires mounted to a standard lap-bar steering ZTR? Then, yes, those tires will slip and slide on hills, including on my property during several ZTR demos. However, if you believe the performance of those tires are the same on the Cub Cadet PRO Z S model equipped with...

Over the weekend we updated and improved the Turbo Charge Pipe for the L2501 Turbo Kit by reshaping the piping so the factory Hood Prop Rod Absorber can be used and function as intended. It's gonna make opening the hood so much easier! No more broomstick! Mike

Congratulations! Enjoy the new tractor! Mike

I was at my Kubota dealer this past week. Yes, they had tractors on the lot and in the showroom. But, they were busy and still selling. Two parties were signing paperwork in the half hour I was there and they’re definitely still doing okay. It was nice to see some product on the lot for once...

^^^^^ Nothing wrong with the Standard L Series Kubota. Both the L2501/2 and L3901/2 are great options. I really like my L2501. It has been a great tractor and is easily modified to produce additional power if one so desires. Mike

The only question I have is regarding the listed chores are the 'stones'. How big? How heavy? I'm thinking an LX might be a nice size for your property but, getting something larger, might be a good idea, especially if you don't mind spending a bit more now. Mike

Welcome! Are you looking to purchase new or pre-owned? I think with your budget and the fact you want to stay away from emissions, you could get more value in a pre-owned, pre-emissions tractor. Mike

But, we’re experts at spending other people’s money! :D Mike

It’s a budget killer but, here’s a ZTR for hills; It’s a Cub Cadet Pro Z 560 s KW and runs around $12K. It’s built like a tank and mows hills quickly and safely. Mike

You can’t go wrong with Kubota but, there are TONS of options out there…just depends on budget. Mike

OP, if the salesman isn’t offering much assistance, call the service department. They should be able to walk you through the process to get the lights off the dash and the tractor running properly. Mike

The key factor in modifying your tractor is figuring out how the BOSCH ECU handles the air mass. Will it add more fuel on its own? Or, would it need to be programmed? There were some gasoline powered vehicles in the 90’s era that had ECU’s that would automatically add additional fuel when...

And this is the problem. You’re grouping all tractors, all engines and all applications together. Each application is unique. The L2501 and the D1703 engine and variants are well suited for a Turbo system. The engine and Turbo system should last thousands of hours assuming the user...

And, that is why research and an understanding of the tractor and drivetrain is mandatory. The application is key, there is no “one size fits all” solution. I certainly wouldn’t throw a Turbo on “any” tractor. The L2501, is unique that it shares its PTO train with its more power L Series...

The issue with modifying the emissions equipped tractors are the electronics (ECU). Here in the states we don’t have any reliable sources to program the ECU after modifications have been made. There are a couple “tuners” in Europe that focus their programming mainly on removing the emissions...

Pure speculation as to the reason why FRED’s machine failed after 400 hours. He made his own fueling adjustments and shockingly wasn’t monitoring any engine diagnostics or EGT temperatures. The likely scenario was run away combustion temperatures which lead to his pistons failing. I don’t...

Thank you! It’s been quite a journey but, we’re definitely happy with the results. This is definitely a “gearheads” solution for L2501 tractor owners! :D Mike

Thank you! EGT’s are being recorded before the Turbocharger in the Turbo adapter. It’s the best compromise and gives us a measurement based on all 3 cylinders. Right now, I’m using a diagnostic gauge that I have mounted on my loader bracket. I’ll eventually transition to a fixed gauge on the...

You have to monitor EGT’s on a Turbocharged N/A application like yours (and with the L2501). It is complete speculation regarding the reasons why your engine failed at 400 hours. It could be pistons. Or, it could be 1,600 degree combustion temperatures sustained over a long period of time...

Great suggestion. It all depends on application and setup. Did you ever monitor your EGT temperatures? Sounds like you may have had excessive run away EGT’s during hard operation. That’ll kill any engine. Anybody installing this Turbo kit will need to monitor EGT’s. The end user is...

I would have thought they would both be very similar. But, I haven't taken a close look at the specs for TYM. Mike

I know willy...that was the joke :D Mike

I’m not sure about TYM but, I do like Branson. You should have bought a Branson! ;) Mike

I also have the leaf blower attachment and man, has that been an awesome tool. I even use it to blow-off and clean my equipment after each use. I have a string trimmer attachment, dedicated brush cutter attachment, dedicated saw blade attachment, prune chainsaw attachment, shaft extension...

Thank you! I believe the improvements will be amplified on the gear drive since you will not have any of the limitations from the HST pressure relief system. Basically, you'll be able to use ALL the additional power. I'm looking forward to the opportunity to get this Turbo Kit installed on a...

I believe the MSRP/List prices will remain high but, the manufactures will increase the incentives (cash discounts and/or low interest rates) on equipment. Mike

Man, and I believe they are ALL over funded and improperly managed! :p Mike

Please send me a PM (private message) and I’ll add you to the list. Mike

I believe you would greatly benefit from a Turbo kit. We have already successfully transferred the Turbo components from my L2501 to another local L2501. We’re confident in the overall fitment of the Turbo system. We’ll have something put together and available soon. 3 of the first 5 Turbo...

^^^^ Most of my impact wrenches are battery ;) Mike

Yes. I'm just giving an example of the limitations of the battery powered trimmers. Mike

Before… After… Here’s an example of the trimming/clearing I do on my property. I’ve only had success with my Stihl gas trimmer. Mike

You need to work on my property….bring some extra batteries, lol Mike

^^^^ Yep, unless I want to split my trimming/clearing chores into days, I’m sticking with my gas powered trimmer. I tried the battery powered variety and it just didn’t have the stamina to get the jobs done in the time I have available. But, perhaps when I retire and I’ve got more free time...

:ROFLMAO: Indeed! Mike

After having issues with the big box store brands, I switched to the Stihl Kombi 131R and it has been fantastic! This trimmer gets abused season after season and is responsible for the majority of light brush clearing on my property. When other trimmers have failed, this trimmer has succeeded...

Absolutely. I'm living proof of that fact! And I can't wait to Turbocharge a brand new L2502! ;) Luckily, the likelihood of using your Kubota warranty on a L2501 is very very low. The L2501 is a very simple and incredibly robust tractor. Mike

You're not alone. And I don't fault anyone for buying more tractor than they need. There are situations where an individual doesn't want, or need more tractor and the Turbo kit is an alternative for those folks, especially when they don't want to deal with emissions or purchasing an older...

We modify because we don’t want to deal with complex and complicated electronic engine controls and emissions equipment. We modify something so we don’t have to buy more tractor than we need. Mike

The L2501 Turbo kit is expected to run just under $3K, which gives you a savings of roughly $2K on an L3901 and $4K on an L3902. The installation of the Turbo kit will void your Kubota warranty. That’s the compromise. Mike

The L2501 is a great tractor. I highly recommend it. Plus, if you need/want more HP, it is easy to modify for more power. My L2501 has been fantastic and is now producing 35 PTO HP with a Turbocharger kit. Mike

It's been a little while since I last priced an Kubota L3560 HST (Great tractor BTW) but, man, I was sure it was north of $35K with a loader.... If you're still only looking at JD & Kubota. Another good statistic to compare is tractor weight. JD's are typically a little lighter which may...

A Bad Boy tractor then. ;) Mike

Dang. That sounds expensive. What’s the labor rate? I recently learned that Harley Davidson mechanics/technicians get paid almost double what your typical big brand automotive dealership mechanic/technician gets paid. Pretty surprising, at least to me. Mike

New or pre-owned? I’m hoping pre-owned. $25-$30K doesn’t get you very far with those two brands. If new, with that budget, I’d probably be looking at Branson tractors. Mike

I agree. I don’t have the answer. You’re right that you can’t compare 25 HP tractor ratings without digging deeper as you rightly mentioned, displacement and torque very greatly from manufacture to manufacture and engine to engine. I have no clue why tractor manufacturers use HP for the...

They should be similar but, it’ll take some research to determine how the engine, transmission and PTO train will respond to the power increase. The L2501 is unique in that it shares virtually all identical components with its more powerful brothers. We’ll just need to make sure the CK2610...

Indeed. Mike

Yes. ;) Mike

I'll need to look into monitoring the HST oil temps. Please let me know how you get on with that project. I'll do the same. Absolutely. This is a great modification for an underpowered and/or heavy tractor. Mike

I would need to dig into my notes to retrieve the actual figures…. Here are the D1703 Tier2 stats; For the L2501 (25HP @ 2,400 RPM), Kubota restricts the D1703’s fuel consumption, limits the RPMs and retards the injection pump timing to meet Tier 4 emissions standards. The injection pump...

Thank you! The injection pump timing on the L2501 is retarded from the factory to meet tier 4 emissions standards. Since the injection timing has already been retarded, it makes this engine a really good platform for turbocharging. There is another turbocharged L2501 and that owner advanced...

^^^^ You might not get a significant performance increase without increasing fuel delivery but, adding the Turbo Kit would definitely lean out the air/fuel mixture and help with the exhaust fumes. The L2501 owners that live and operate their tractors in the upper elevations will not have to...

^^^^ I wish, lol Mike

Some discretion and common sense needs to be considered before attaching equipment to the tractor. Any user would need to make sure they are properly ballasted before running and driving larger implements. Mike

I will certainly update this thread with updates. Mike

None of the Turbocharged L2501's have had any cooling issues whatsoever in hundreds of hours of use. The HST transmission and PTO train are essentially the same in all similar sized Kubota Standard L Series tractors, including the L3901 / L3902. Mike

My L2501 is relatively new (2021). These are very very reliable and robust tractors. Most owners will never even use their warranty. But, yes, you will not have that piece-of-mind if you choose to install the Turbo Kit on a new L2501. There's a really good chance I'll be installing this...

Absolutely. However, the factory D1703 cooling system has been more than adequate to deal with the increased heat from the Turbo kit. The tractor has been ran for over 8 hours straight grading without a single hiccup in challenging conditions. Mike

Yep, you can definitely run the larger spec implements with the Turbo Kit. The box blade width restriction/recommendation is due to the width of the tractor. But, a larger box blade can be used. Mike

Yes. That is correct. You can run larger stationary attachments. Running a 15kw generator was one of the reasons for this modification. Mike

^^^^ Looks like the MX5200 is already Turbocharged (MX4800 is N/A). I would assume adding more fuel and perhaps adjusting the Turbo actuator to increase boost pressure would provide more power, however, I’m not familiar enough with the fuel delivery situation to confirm it can be done. Mike

Total investment is under $3K (that’s with a new OEM MHI Mitsubishi Turbo…not a Chinese knockoff) and I can work on getting a parts and components list going. The Turbo oil feed and return lines are super easy. There’s no magic involved. We’re getting our oil feed from the oil pressure switch...

Luckily, the L2501 is a simple mechanical diesel engine that isn’t equipped with all that complicated nonsense. Mike

Thank you. Yes, different audience here and I was able to post all content uninterrupted which I happy to have the ability to do here. Yes, the Kubota Standard L Series tractors share the same Hydrostat unit and PTO train with the exception of two gears. And, certainly, we can all agree, if...

If you read the thread then you would understand I already addressed those concerns….installing a Turbo kit will void your Kubota warranty, period. There’s no debate there. I wouldn’t expect or imply otherwise. And, you don’t necessarily need to buy a larger unit. That’s why Kubota offers...

I agree. The L2501’s components are well matched to the size and weight of the tractor. However, oddly enough, Kubota doesn’t agree. They made three separate HP levels for this tractor size. 25, 33 and 39. I’m simply elevating the performance of the L2501 to the upper end of the range...

That’s a shame. You didn’t read the thread. And, you didn’t read or learn that the L2501 with this Turbo kit is over $2K less expensive than a L3901 and $4K less expensive than an L3902 all the while delivering more performance. And while designing and fabricating Turbo kit itself is beyond...

In many cases, it’s difficult to justify the cost of a SXS. They’re not cheap. However, before I would consider purchasing some beater full size pickup, I’d buy a Japanese Mini-truck import. They can be purchased, in great condition for as little as $5K and depending on your budget, you...

Videos added to posts #5 and #6. Mike

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Nothing wrong with that. I certainly wouldn’t mind having an MX5400 ;) Mike

Thank you! I hope you enjoy the rest. Mike

Thank you. The L2501, L3301, L3302, L3901 and L3902 all share the same Hydrostat unit and the same 28:27 input ratio. All components in PTO are the same with the exception of two gears. You can match PTO speeds in the L2501 by replacing those two gears. The L2501 HST relief pressure is only...

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Part 4: L2501 Turbo vs. PTO Dyno (The Results and Conclusion) I’m sure for many readers, the following information is precisely what you’ve been waiting for. The results, period. No estimates. No excuses. No blather. No guessing. No subjective observations. You have been waiting for a...

Part 3: Turbo design, fabrication, installation and testing My Turbo build begins on the heels of a couple very successful turbo setups already running on L2501 tractors. These particular Turbo setups encouraged me to begin the planning and research necessary to create my own Turbo system. My...

Part 2: Evaluating the options. It’s true. I could simply sell my L2501 and buy a new, more-powerful Kubota Standard L Series tractor. The L3301, the L3901, the L3302 and the L3902 all have more power and upgrading to a new tractor seems like it really would make sense. But, does it really make...

Part 1: Background The purpose of this thread is to share the concept, creation, progress and performance of my custom Turbocharged Kubota L2501 HST 4WD tractor. I’ll start by offering my opinions on this tractor, why I bought it, how it’s performed, the advantages and disadvantages, and why I...

Fantastic surprise! That’s great! That surely doesn’t happen too often these days and I highly doubt such an example would happen with other brands. Mike

I agree. I’m on the list at two of our local dealers but, I’m terrified of what the price will be. It’s very possible I’ll be holding on the the L2501 for a long time. We’ll see. Mike

Congratulations on the new L2501! It is a great tractor and will serve you well! Enjoy it! Mike

^^^^ Clever workaround :ROFLMAO: Mike

Congrats on the new Tractor! The B2601 is a great choice! I had one and really enjoyed it. Mike

^^^^ Congratulations!!! Please post some pictures when you get it! I’m sure you’ll really enjoy the new 1825E tractor! I can’t help on the grapple (I use pallet forks) but, I’m sure some folks will chime in with suggestions. Mike

^^^^ Why? What’s wrong with the MF 1825e? Mike

^^^^ That’s a bit steep. I’d probably be leaning 1825e. Mike

Nothing wrong with the 1825e tractor. Personally, I really really like the 1835m but, I’m assuming you wish to stay away from the emissions crap? You can’t go wrong with either the MF or Kubota (but for the Kubota..I’d recommend the L2501). Mike

On your size property I would be looking at the BX or B, if you decide to go with Kubota. Personally, I think a sub-compact is perfect for your sized property and intended uses. Too bad the Massey dealer sucked. The GC1725 is a great sub-compact. And, don't get hung up on the specs. All the...

^^^^ I really like the MF 1835. Almost bought one. Mike

^^^^ Yep. I’m not a logger and the MS500i will be my next saw. I prefer the lighter professional saws when compared to the standard variety. Less fatigue and more work in the same timeframe. Mike

^^^^ Hard to beat the Branson value. Mike

^^^^^ In my area, when I was shopping (2021), the CK2610 was only $1K cheaper when compared to a similarly equipped L2501. I am aware that Kubota prices have jumped quite a bit over the last couple years, however. Mike

I’m not sure if you’re still looking for a solution but, the Turbo Kit has become a reality for L2501 owners seeking additional power. The power increase? Well, it’s substantial. We’re recording an additional 45% increase in overall power at 2,105 RPM. 35 PTO HP! All the details have...

I know this is an old thread but, I promised to return with the results from my L2501 Turbo system; The tractor made 35 PTO HP. And overall, a 45% increase in power. I'll be posting a full thread soon. Mike

Yep, I too considered the MF 1526 when shopping for my last tractor purchase. Mike

Bora makes great spacers! I wouldn’t even consider the Kubota option. One thing to consider when going with the steel Bora spacers is that you’ll need to prep and paint before installation. Mike

^^^^ Yeah, but the B3350 is one of the rare Kubota’s that doesn’t have a really good reliability history if memory serves me correctly. Mike

Can’t argue with that. IMHO, Kubota makes a better product. And, I can think of several brands I’d buy before considering another JD. Mike

It's looking like Kubota is now approaching Deere pricing... Mike

I'm not sure about the 1000 but, the P520 is also really noisy at top speed (mine does 42 mph with my wheel/tire setup). Mike

^^^^ Agreed! Best tractor ever! Mike

Congrats! Great looking machine! Mike

I have a Pioneer 520. It’s fantastic. I bought it for recreation purposes but, I use it way more on my property than I anticipated. It’s a great machine, I highly recommend it. It fits through all the tight spaces in my heavily forested and hilly property. Stock ground clearance is good and...

Thank you! Lots of phone calls, traveling to tractor service facilities and gathering gossip, lol If you’re looking for the whole story, you can read it here...

^^^^ Unfortunately, that wasn’t the case in my area. Yes, I eventually found one and it was located at a Dealership but, no dealership or tractor service facility in my immediate area had one available for customer testing. A couple did have them, but they are only available for diagnostic...

And, after logging many many hours on my property testing the Turbo system, I finally found and had the tractor tested on a PTO Dyno. The Turbo Kit increased the power by 45% and has been performing exceptionally well since its installation. Mike

I know this is an old thread but, I promised to return if I decided to modify my tractor. Well, after tons of research, I did and did so successfully. I added a Turbo system to my L2501. Mike

Congrats on the RTV! Mike

I’m sorry to hear about your experience. Kioti manufactures the Bobcat tractor. Have you tried reaching out to a Kioti dealer to see if they can repair your tractor? Mike

^^^^ I know it’s a new machine but, how’s the battery? I’d check the date code on the battery just in case it was manufactured using ‘old’ stock and…I’d throw a charger on it just in case. Mike

I wasn’t able to mow my front lawn without having to refuel my old garden tractor. That was a real inconvenience. Plus, I have steep hills to maintain and the garden tractor was too unstable, unsafe and didn’t have the traction I needed. It was these experiences that led to the temptation to...

Congrats! You'll love it! HondaSxS.com. Amazing forum! Everyone is great and extremely helpful! Mike

OP, sounds like you have enough uses to justify a sub-compact tractor purchase. And, you’re already heading in the right direction, the MF GC1705 is a fantastic tractor. However, I’d go with the GC1723. ;) Mike

I don’t have any personal experience with the Mule SX but, I’ve heard they are very well built and reliable machines. I have a Pioneer 520. It’s fantastic. I bought it for recreation purposes but, I use it way more on my property than I anticipated. It’s a great machine, I highly recommend...

I like California Air. Super quiet and a good value. Mike

I do the same (I want my liquid funds), but perhaps, a little worse, depending on who you ask. I typically go zero cash down, finance 100% but, pay off in 12 months. I’ve been doing this to keep my credit constantly fresh and over 850. Mike

^^^^ Depending on your needs, yes, 4x4 may be better. I have the a Cub Cadet Pro Z S and it's a fantastic mower and performs exceptionally well on my steep hills and hillsides. Tons of traction, control and stability. Plus, they're built like a tank. Zero complaints. Mike

The Cub Cadet Pro Z S (with 4 wheel steering) is my choice for hillside mowing and have a 72” option. Mike

Only you can make that decision. Financially, it’s a difficult decision to justify, unless you’re using the UTV in a commercial setting. Originally, when I purchased my UTV, I just assumed I was throwing money away and regarding sale prices, used was just as expensive as new. Now, however...

I haven't re-read the thread but, I believe the OP was looking for an inexpensive hill-side mower. Unfortunately, they don't really exist, so I think he gave up on our suggestions. Mike

I bought my UTV primarily as a recreational vehicle. To my surprise, as others have mentioned, I use it more on my property than any other vehicle. With the used market still inflated (assuming the seller won't take a better offer), I'd suggest buying the new unit. Mike

^^^^ I’m betting that mower costs a fortune. Mike

Yep, couldn’t agree more. It’s fast and works incredibly well. Mike

^^^^ Yep, I have a Turbocharger setup on my L2501. Gives me more power for them PTO robbing implements. Mike

^^^^ I bought my P520 for the size too. I wanted a smaller machine to fit on narrow trails on both my property and local forests. In addition, I wanted to have the ability to transport the SxS in the bed of my truck, which I can with the P520. For me, size was everything and I’m very happy...

OP is looking for the Heaviest 25HP tractor. The B/LX is not heavier than the standard L series tractors. Mike

You can easily get 30+ HP from the L2501, with a fuel adjustment or more power with forced induction, if one so wishes. https://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/threads/l2501-turbo-a-journey-defined-the-tractor-the-comparison-the-modification-the-results.59138/ Mike

^^^^ I paid full MSRP, plus fees for my ‘22 P520 this past April. That seems to be the norm. I’m not surprised by the pre-owned price being close or at MSRP for a low mileage unit. Although, there have been rumors circulating that some dealers, that have stock available, are giving small...

Hey John, I’m not familiar enough with the P700 to answer your questions. But, these guys sure can; https://hondasxs.com/ If you have any P500/P520 questions, I’m sure I could be of assistance. I really like my P520. Prices and availability should be improving dramatically over the next...

I’m in the forests of western Washington too. If you’re looking for a lightweight reasonably powerful saw, I’d recommend the MS 194 C. It’s my favorite saw and I use it more than any of my other chainsaws. Mike

On my Kubota B2601 I installed steel Bora 2” rear wheel spacers. I would have gone with 3” spacers on that tractor but, those would have interfered with the 60” MMM. I went with steel spacers because they’re heavier and more durable, however, they require preparation and paint before...

Yanmar makes a great tractor. You’ll more than likely never need that warranty. Mike

The Stihl Kombi 131R is a beast. Fantastic trimmer! If you haven't tried one of these blades, I recommend it; They're great for clearing brush, saplings and thick grass. For me, they work much better than saw blades. Mike

I'd suggest taking a look at Branson Tractors. Mike

Tractor prices rising isn’t a new phenomenon. I researched new prices of specific models and found, regardless of economic conditions, prices have been rising for decades. It isn’t new and will not change…and I’ll continue to monitor prices out of shear curiosity. Mike

^^^^ Yep, no worries. I thought the video contained some good and relevant info for the tread. Mike

Good video from Messicks regarding the current market conditions; Mike

The automotive dealers are requiring a deposit in my area, but most UTV dealers just put you on a list and call when a unit becomes available. Mike

Go to 8:42 in Messick's Equipment video for the new 2023 L2502 tractor info. Mike

It appears Kubota is going to offer a new 2023 L2502 which will offer many of the same features and amenities as the L3302 / L3902. Since I really like the upgrades on the L 02 tractors, I’m interested to see the pricing on the L2502. I’ll likely head down to my dealer in the next couple...

I’m very happy with my Stihl chainsaws (ms271, ms462cm & ms194c) and KM131r trimmer. Never an issue with any of them. And, the KM131r really gets abused…I’m waiting for that thing to give up so I can replace it with a new one but, it just keeps running strong. I’m just blown away that they’re...

That's interesting. They're definitely entering a 'flooded' market at a questionable time. Mike

Congrats! The L2501 is a great tractor! Mike

New? Not likely. New vehicles generally have 3-7% markup. That’s it. Pretty shocking. The automotive manufacturers themselves are making a much higher percentage selling vehicles to their dealerships (that’s the best kept secret). Mike

It’s my understanding that Kubota and Yanmar are the only two companies building their tractors using all their own components. That’s why I like Yanmar. Mike

Great choice! Congratulations! Mike

Absolutely! https://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/threads/l2501-turbo-a-journey-defined-the-tractor-the-comparison-the-modification-the-results.59138/ Mike

^^^^ Or, simply install a Turbo on an L2501. ;) Mike

I didn't get an merchandise but, both new tractors came with a full tank of fuel. In my opinion, a new tractor should come with a full tank of fuel. But, I don't think it's necessary. Mike

^^^^ The L3902 is a massive improvement in features, comfort and cosmetics compared to the L3901 but, if you need “more” tractor, you’d have to go with the L4701/L4702 or Grand L. Mike

I’d post up a link to my build thread on HondaSxS forum but, unless you’re a member…you can’t read it. Here’s my latest addition; ITP Ultracross R 27x9-14 tires and 14” Raceline A95 Trophy (4x110, 5+2) simulated bead lock wheels in Gray/Black. Mike

^^^^ That thing is awesome! Mike

^^^^ Thank you! Mike

^^^^^ If Kubota makes a L2502 and it has the same features as the L3302/L3902, I’m right behind you! Mike

^^^^ Looks great! Congrats on the L3902! Mike

^^^^ I was figuring there would be a greater margin between the Branson and others. The Branson’s are well built and I’d still lean that way. However, for $500 difference, I’d definitely drive all three and purchase the tractor that’s most comfortable and feels the best to you. There really...

What’s the cost difference between the three? I’d be leaning Branson for sure, especially if you have a couple good dealers locally. Mike

I added my folding saw, fire extinguisher, RotoPax 2 gallon fuel container and Axia Alloys mounting brackets; Mike

Nice! Congratulations! What’s going on with the F-body in the background? ;) Mike

That thing is insane!!! Mike

If you're looking for more tractor the L3302 is the obvious choice. It has more weight and that will definitely help with some of the work you've been struggling with. But, if you're looking at a lateral purchase, you can't go wrong with the feature rich LX3310. Mike

The Honda SxS forum is dangerous. They’re giving me too many ideas, lol. Today, I did the reverse lever modification and the seatbelt bypass. And, I installed my GPS bracket. It was a good day! Mike

I still haven't decided on wheels/tires but, I ordered the Walker Evans coilovers for my P520. Mike

Ventrac is not my choice for commercial hillside mowing. The Cub Cadet Pro Z S is my choice for commercial hillside mowing. This particular example is $14K. A Cub Cadet Pro Z S 100 can be purchased for around $10K and I believe they have a 52” option. Mike

^^^^ Thank you! I’m starting to get a list going on the items I wish to carry with me on our adventures. Once I get a good detailed list, I can tackle the challenge on where to put/store them. Thus far, I always carry; Water Gloves Microfiber towels Zip tie Duct tape Tow strap ….that’s...

That’s a good idea! Which tire repair kit are you using? Mike

Well, I bought the GPS Wednesday....and the lady will get pissed if I buy everything all at once, lol. So, I was planning buying either the wheel/tires or the suspension next month and the other item, the month afterwards. I don't NEED anything immediately, just want to maximize my enjoyment...

^^^^ So, the question is...would you purchase and install the suspension first? Or, the 27" wheel/tires? Mike

^^^^ Much appreciated, thank you. I think the 520 has plenty of torque in first gear. I don’t mind giving up some power and take off speed in first. It would be a shame, however, if I could no longer do donuts, lol My biggest complaint with this machine is the gearing. The gearing is too...

I signed up. At least the guys there are honest about trying to spend your money, lol That said, I know I’m going with larger wheels/tire and suspension (either WE or Elka) Mike

^^^^ Or keep the L2501 and add a Turbo! ;) Mike

^^^^ I don’t think it’ll cause manufacturers to lower retail prices. I believe they will continue to go up as they have for decades. However, depending on how impactful this recession may become, I can see some struggling independent dealers to offer discounts and/or some manufacturer...

^^^^ I'll have to register...it won't let me read any threads without logging in. Mike

I'm going with 14's for sure....26-27 inch tires. Now, do I have to stagger the tire sizes? Or, can I just go with 14x7 wheels and a 27x9-14 all the way around? Mike

Thanks for the info guys! I won't go over 27"! I'm curious, do the larger wheels/tires help with ride quality? Mike

I’m considering adding taller tires. I’m not looking for mud tires since most of my driving is around the property and on trails. I’d like to get 27’s or maybe 28’s if they’d fit. However, I would like to maintain the width if at all possible. Anyone have any suggestions? Mike

^^^^ New tractor prices have been rising year-to-year for a very long time. I doubt it’ll ever stop but, if a full-blown recession happens, there will be some deals. Most likely in the form of manufacturer rebates/offers and dealer discounts. Mike

Here's something I'm putting together on the L2501 Turbo; https://www.orangetractortalks.com/forums/threads/l2501-turbo-a-journey-defined-the-tractor-the-comparison-the-modification-the-results.59138/ Once I finish Part 3, I'll post a new thread here too. Mike

^^^^ I’m not familiar with the 50th anniversary edition. What’s it include? Mike

^^^^ That’s what I have, L2501 and a zero turn for similar acreage. Mike

For the small difference in price, definitely B over BX. I don’t have much experience with Yanmar but, I really like the Massey in that size tractor. Check your local dealers. Mike

I've had good luck on Craigslist and Facebook Market Place as well... Mike

^^^^ Weight = work. You can’t beat weight. Mike

I fixed that problem. Lots and lots of power with the Turbo L2501. And for a lot less money than the price difference between the L2501 and the L3301/L3901. Mike

^^^^ Now, the real fun begins! Testing, data logging and tuning! Mike

The L2501 Turbo setup is finished and running; We made one rookie mistake on the intake charge pipe, we didn’t account for the hood prop-rod/absorber. So, we’ll have to redesign that pipe in the near future. Shouldn’t be a big issue. I’ll have the tractor back on the property tomorrow and...

The L2501 Turbo setup is finished and running; We made one rookie mistake on the intake charge pipe, we didn’t account for the hood prop-rod/absorber. So, we’ll have to redesign that pipe in the near future. Shouldn’t be a big issue. I’ll have the tractor back on the property tomorrow and...

^^^^ My Cub Cadet Pro Z 560 S KW also does an amazing job mowing and sticking to the steep hills and slopes. The quality is outstanding and it’s built like a tank. At around $14K these days, it’s one of the least expensive options for safely mowing steep terrain. I just wish it had a...

^^^^ I don’t have a problem with $15K for a quality mower. I don’t have a problem with commercial gas engines (though I too prefer diesel). I do, however, have a problem spending that much money for a mower that doesn’t have any dealer presence in my area and, the dealers that did have them...