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  1. WinterDeere

    "I'm not a robot"

    Just the last few days, several times per day, the site will redirect me to another URL with only a "I'm not a robot" checkbox in the middle of the screen. It always happens while I'm in the middle of typing a message. If I close the window and then start a new session to tractorbynet.com, it...
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    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    My interest in using fuel oil instead of driving to the gas station for diesel, was purely out of convenience. Having to monitor the stuff, then find, buy, and add additives, sort of goes against the whole convenience factor. Sounds like I'm better off just continuing to buy diesel at the...
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    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    I'm real interested to see what he can do here. But did that department actually get funded? Even if Elon agrees to work without salary, which he could easily do, an entire new department of personnel and facilities needs to go into the budget, to make this happen. With an R-congress, I...
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    Whatever you feel like thread.

    My experience is all perennial tall fescue, and what I can say about it is that it takes a very long time to germinate and sprout. It's one tough grass once it does, but it's not the kind of thing that's going to sprout up in a week. Around here, most sellers label the germination time on tall...
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    Whatever you feel like thread.

    Tall Fescue is the predominant species around here. It seems to be the only thing that survives both the 4-8 weeks of heat and drought we get most summers, and cold and snow we get most winters. Our winter cold and snow has probably always been very inconsistent, but maybe even more-so than...
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    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    This isn't surprising at all, in fact I remember writing about it several years ago, although it might have been on another forum. You're basically turning cars with low-speed acceleration comparable to 700 hp or even 1000 hp ICE's over to the general non-enthusiast public. Accidents are...
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    Whatever you feel like thread.

    That's cool, never would have thought of that. Around here, annual rye is used only as a mix with other seeds intended for planting on bare soil, as it can put up shoots in 2-3 days, which helps maintain soil stability while other seeds take longer to germinate. Same as your location, it dies...
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    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    Good to know. I'm guessing you're probably up near Stroudsberg? So it's probably colder where you are than here, unless you're right on the water. I'm down in the Philly/Allentown area, and not near any tempering water influence.
  9. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Competitive eating champions always seem to be some skinny guy from Japan or other southeast Asian country, never the big fat guy from Alabama or Texas. There must be a physiological reason for that.
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    I was thinking the same thing. But if I was going to die under some random 25 year old female, I think I missed my chance, long ago. :D
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    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    Yeah, this is what I always thought, as well. But bdh is local to me, and reports no such problems? We see upper 20's pretty much every day, all winter long. We will usually see a week or two of nights near 10F, although my shed probably tempers that a bit, even if unheated and uninsulated...
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    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    Wow. Good to know! It would be a heck of a lot more convenient to just put another drain cock on my heating oil drum in the basement, than be running out to the gas station for diesel fuel. Cheaper, too!
  13. WinterDeere

    How long to let a very over grazed pasture sit?

    Nice! Your soil looks like sand, to this northeasterner. Ours looks like dark roasted coffee grounds, by comparison.
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    Z930R - Zero Turn Purchase - Comments and Rules of Thumb?

    That's my routine, as well. Run around the house, barn, and wood lot with the handheld blower before mowing, to put all the leaves trapped up against structures or in gardens out into the lawn. Then mow over them. When leaf load gets high, I blow them all to the woods on either side of the...
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    Whatever you feel like thread.

    Alabama? I'd think it normal that your grass keeps growing most of the year, but maybe that's just based on our cool season grasses, which you probably don't grow down there. Our grass thrives on days with temperatures varying 40 - 60F, but will still grow reasonably well in 30-50F. We...
  16. WinterDeere

    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    You run your tractors on fuel oil? I really know very little about this, but thought it would be a problem either for gelling in cold weather, or due to sulfur content messing with Tier 4 equipment?
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    America is addicted to sugar. It used to be that kids craved "sweet", and adults graduated to "savory". But probably thanks to the softdrink industry among other factors, so many adults still survive on childhood levels of sugar. NIH recommends no more than 30 g per day, which would net under...
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    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    Same. Mine ran off the driveway so many times at the turn coming out of the garage, that the edge of the driveway has failed and crumbled there. I eventually put a plow marker at that spot, that stays there year-round, to keep her on the driveway. Of course, that hasn’t stopped her from...
  19. WinterDeere

    Whatever you feel like thread.

    Check out Gator blades, generally preferred by those trying to mulch dry leaves into a lawn.
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    You should report them, or it will only continue: $500 per violation According to the Indiana Deceptive Consumer Sales Act (IC 24-5-0.5), businesses found to have engaged in false advertising in Indiana may face a civil penalty of up to $500 per violation, as well as court costs and attorney...
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    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    But a Fed Ex delivery truck is not a “large vehicle”. Either way, I like the idea of putting rocks either side, to make their pain at least as much as mine, next time they drive thru my garden. :D
  22. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    lol... I had it happen to me once, about 17 years ago, a data breach on one site compromised my logins on others. Thankfully, nothing critical, no money was lost. That's when I started using randomly-generated passwords from a password manager. But that's definitely not the only solution...
  23. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    I didn't click the link, no interest in that kind of thing, but the post basically described where it went. I suspect it was a past valid member who's account was compromised. See my recent post in another thread about passwords. If you use the same password here as you used at...
  24. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    Who ever said my road is only 20 feet wide?!? Besides, arguing 53 ft trailers is aside from the point, when the gripe was specifically "delivery trucks (mostly Fed Ex)". Let's review: Point is, probably 1 out of every 30 delivery drivers either goes off the side of my driveway into the lawn...
  25. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Reported as illegal underage ****. I hope they find you.
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    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    Came back across this post, and had to laugh again. When 29 out of every 30 delivery drivers manage to get in and out without leaving the asphalt, I don't think the 30th should be blaming the driveway for their bad driving. Moreover, we have had everything from cement trucks, to boom trucks...
  27. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    I suspect a similar device today would look more at daily weight change, than just a fixed number, as people’s weight does often change throughout the long term.
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    You just reminded me of a place I worked about 23 years ago, which had a combination of key card + fingerprint scanner + retina scanner, to access the building. It was located on a windy bluff near Allentown PA, and I was working there two pretty cold winters (by our standards). All of the...
  29. WinterDeere

    Whatever you feel like thread.

    Same. The only time I notice my mower wanting for power is when the grass is thick and lush in May. I'm sure leaves take more power than wilting October grass alone, and that would affect battery life, but it's not so much that I ever notice any increased engine load. May is definitely worse...
  30. WinterDeere

    The day the music died.

    Very sad news for prog rock fans, Pete Sinfield has died at age 80. Those who followed Emerson Lake & Palmer (ELP) or King Crimson already knew this guy, he played lyricist for both bands. If you're not into the whole 1970's prog rock scene, then you may be more familiar with his "I believe in...
  31. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    I honestly think RAM is one of the few doing a pretty good job with the touch screen / button balance. At least my 2015 is that way, I guess I haven't checked out their latest. Basically every function I use while driving is replicated as a button or a knob, such that I never need to access...
  32. WinterDeere

    Whatever you feel like thread.

    Not just that, but many passes over the same area. Effectively, probably like mowing 5x the equivalent space.
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    Berta Two Stage Snow Blower Auger gear box oil change

    The trouble I envision with this, real or perceived, is that a drain plug allows any solid particulates (metal filings) to be swept out with the fluid, when draining a gear box or oil pan. But by using suction, it seems more likely a large part of any such solid particulates will remain in the...
  34. WinterDeere

    Whatever you feel like thread.

    I just passed 1200 hours on my 2007 Deere 757 ZTrak, still going strong. I stripped and repainted the deck last winter, not sure it was worth the effort, but figured it couldn't hurt as the old paint was coming off in a few areas around fastners. I also ended up putting new heads on the motor...
  35. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    12 - 15 ft is actually pretty wide, for a residential driveway. Most are 10 feet wide here. Some even 8 feet. I'm talking about residential delivery, not semi trucks or commercial property.
  36. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    What year is the Jeep? I thought most manufacturers were actually getting better about this, after hearing so much customer complaint in the early 2010's. For awhile, they were moving everything to touch screens, but it seems most have realized this is a huge safety and convenience issue, and...
  37. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    I think I might need to do the same at the end of my driveway. The damn driveway is 12 feet wide, flaring out to about 15 feet wide at the road, yet delivery trucks (mostly Fed Ex) still drive thru my garden several times per week, cutting the wheel too early.
  38. WinterDeere

    Trailer brake is stuck

    Primary braking usually is. But parking brakes that use drum inside disc tech are usually not, those have to be hand-adjusted.
  39. WinterDeere

    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    Yeah, really. He was told twice over three days how to check this, and it would take all of five minutes.
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    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    Did he mention the name of his business in this claimed promotion? It's hard to promote yourself in any meaningful way, as an anonymous screen name. I have no idea who arrow is, or where he does business, but I do wish all dealers thought like him.
  41. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    The way I finally got rid of them was to replace the credit card they were billing. Then they spent more than a year sending me "past due" notices, and threatening to report me to credit agencies, for failure to pay. Pay for what? I canceled your service a year ago! It's not my fault you...
  42. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    First, not all sites have a three failed attempt lock out. But even those that do typically auto-reset after several minutes. Since it's often weeks or even months before a breech is discovered and reported, and because a sophisticated hacker will not the fail-out and auto-reset parameters for...
  43. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Yeah, I get that. I actually had it for years, even if I didn't use it much. The trouble for me was that 3 vehicles x $25/month = $900/year. Every year I'd cancel, then they'd come back and offer me a promotional price of $10 - $15/month ($360 - $540/year), and I'd do another year, but I...
  44. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I guess this supports my original supposition: Sirius is not attractive for those of us in the northeast, for so many reasons. But it may be a better deal for those working in the vast open expanses of the west, where long distances kill terrestrial signals, but open sky permits better...
  45. WinterDeere

    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    A lot of debate here, with no confirmation the unequal camber is real, and not just an illusion. It'd take less time to park the machine on a level surface to check camber on both sides, to see if one side is really different than the other, than has been spent typing about it here. I have a...
  46. WinterDeere

    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    Hard to tell from the photos, but it wouldn't take more than 5 minutes to find a level section of garage or driveway, and set a level up-side of each front tire, to see what's real and what's optical illusion. I believe both fronts on my Deere have a hair of positive camber, like any trailer...
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    You Know You Are Old When

    Same. Back when I had it, it would never cut out, unless I was under continuous cover for at least a good fraction of a minute. I think the radio cached at least 20-30 seconds of play time, to deal with momentary interruptions. I think the service is pretty good, and shouldn't cut out...
  48. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Not sure if Runner will let this one go, or not. In your defense, you did interject "Um" before "so". :p I see the "remember username" a lot, haven't seen "remember password" yet, but I suppose I will at some point. It's probably tracking you by at least two or three other identifiers, at...
  49. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I think Radio Shack actually private-labeled those antennas from other manufacturers, such as Arrow. The largest one they carried in the mid-1990's was several times larger than the one you mention here, but they discontinued it ca.1998.
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    You Know You Are Old When

    Really? Unless you have sky cover (eg. in a tunnel or absolutely massive storm system), Sirius should really never drop out. That's the beauty of satellite-based systems. Of course satellite TV has a fatal flaw, in that it's bandwidth becomes limited when the weather is bad. You know what...
  51. WinterDeere

    Ace Hardware

    lol... it's a shame that's how we come to view things, eventually. But I'm much the same. I did actually have an unexplained pin hole in a 1/2" soft coiled copper line running up to our 2nd floor laundry, just this summer. Bizarre, as it was in the middle of the line, no fittings or anything...
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    Ace Hardware

    The last few major plumbing projects on this house, I've grown to realize I'm one of very few still doing old-skool copper sweat fittings. That's hard for me to accept, as it's the most reliable and long-lived plumbing system in modern history, but PEX and that Shark-Bite crap have won out on...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Yeah, it's definitely a problem, which is why you see so much 2-factor authentication happening these days. But the better password managers are actually nearly impossible to hack, using localized encryption and strong lock-out rules for failed login attempts. Anything can be done, especially...
  54. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Definitely agreed. I was just poking fun. I don't have huge fingers, but even so, I find it easier to just dictate to Siri. She gets most stuff right, and it's usually pretty fun when she screws up (eg. nipples for dimples). When it matters, I proof read and correct. My FIL has a flip...
  55. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I accidentally pressed the damn Sirius button on my car stereo yesterday, by accident, I don't maintain a subscription. But it got me thinking, "how are they even still in business?" My thinking or assumption was that, with unlimited cellular and smart phones, anyone can stream any content...
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    You Know You Are Old When

    Thinking back to the 1970's, mom had us unplug the TV every time where was a major storm, having had a few acquaintances who lost TV's during storms. I was just a young kid, so did as I was told. But I think she missed the issue, as it seems the point of entry for a lightning strike is more...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Oh, I remember! I had a Moto Razr until about 2009 or 2010, while others were carrying Blackberries and even early iPhones. The Razr was a traditional 12-key flip phone, and you could choose texting modes, either hitting the 5 key four times to get "L", or letting the phone guess your words...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    ... and your friend's pet peeve? Luddites. :ROFLMAO: Not to pick on you, but you have to admit, it's kind of funny that you're "pro email", but "anti text". I mean, these two technologies are separated by little more than the blink of an eye, on the grand scale. Next time, respond via...
  59. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    Interesting. Other than specialty stuff (e.g. moving houses), I can't recall ever seeing any wagon with a steerable front axle used in on-road applications, around here. The trailers with axles only at the rear are called "semi-trailers" here, the word "semi" implying "half", with the other...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Not trying to talk you into anything, you're probably better off with what makes you comfortable, anyway. But just to clear the muddied waters, iPhones got away from cables years ago, I don't think I've ever plugged my current model into anything. Wireless charging, wireless transfer, etc. I...
  61. WinterDeere

    Trailer brake is stuck

    Same. In my case, it bound up for a second, then released. But then things sounded mighty awful after that, until I pulled the thing apart to find what was rattling around in there. :D
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    Ace Hardware

    Same. I'd do most of my shopping there, except ours is closed on Sundays, when I most often find myself needing a hardware store for home projects. Ace is 10 minutes from home, closest Lowes Depots are all 25+ minutes. They're a few dollars more than the big box chains, but I don't mind that...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    I only upgrade when I manage to break the one I'm carrying, or when a kid or my wife needs a new phone, and I give them mine. But as to why I usually buy the latest model: 1. Waterproof features had me choose the latest model in two of the upgrades I made in the last 10 years. I race...
  64. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Good question! Honestly, I'm not sure. I just looked it up, and I see only the 99/4A was beige, and memory tells us ours was beige. But it also says that model wasn't released until 1983, and I was pretty sure we got ours before that. I grew up living in an historic district, where there...
  65. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Funny story: When I bought my first house in my early 20's, I was too poor to even consider cable. Heck, I didn't even have any fully-functional TV's, they were all hand-me-downs with various deficiencies. One without sound, another without UHF... you get the idea. So, I head to Radio Shack...
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    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    That sums it up! If buying oak, I hope they don't plan to burn it until at least fall of 2027. It usually takes 3 summers split and stacked, to get oak below 20% MC, in our climate. I believe MI is very much the same. The oak and hickory I'm burning right now was split fall of 2020, so 4...
  67. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Verizon disabled our boxes back in June, and sent us new ones. I still haven't bothered hooking them up, but did finally convince my wife to cancel the service, pointing out she hasn't watched any TV since June. Now I just need to get around to pulling out all the old hardware, and sending...
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    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    Pushing prices right to the ceiling of what the market can bear is quite legitimately, a way to "eliminate spikes in the price of gas." :p No more spikes, it's aways high now!
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    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    It's not so much that they depreciate, but that they appreciate slower than everything else. A case in point: John Deere M's sold new for $1000, around 1950. Now a 70 year old one brings $4000 - $5000, depending on condition. Not bad, right? But if you had put the same $1000 in an S&P index...
  70. WinterDeere

    Serial Number Decoding

    There haven't been that many Deere's lacking a front grille, so that's your clue. Trouble is, that one doesn't look like any of those I know (eg. 2510, 4040, etc.).
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    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Just did a quick search on "Kevlar athletic cup". Zero hits. :ROFLMAO: I also waited until I failed a hearing test, to start wearing ear protection. Thankfully I was only 14 years old, and nearly all of the damage healed. The doc told me at the time, that if I'd been an adult, the damage...
  72. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    It's sometimes hard to remember the absolute crap you could produce, and still earn viewers, when you had a captive audience and only 3-4 stations available. :p
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    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    I'm the same. I wear a helmet whenever felling, or maybe even when limbing stuff that's hanging overhead, but never when bucking a log on the ground. Stihl published stat's many years ago, maybe they've even been updated since, but memory tells me something like 5 out of every 6 chainsaw...
  74. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    "...frittering your life away, playing nursemaid to a bunch of garlic eaters". Catholics were not exactly adored, among the protestant-rich demographics of early America. Some of it was religious bias, more of it was probably economic bias, as protestants made up the earlier and wealthier...
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    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Glad you were okay. Yep, and that's what I'm often doing with mine, either using it to mark off a log for bucking with a measuring stick in my left hand and saw in my right, or using it to buck lengths off branches too skinny to bother with a real saw. In this case, I was holding a small 3"-4"...
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    You Know You Are Old When

    I believe I sold the color ribbon dot matrix printer from our Apple IIgs for more than my father paid for it, 30 years earlier. :ROFLMAO: Old computer hardware is cool. I'm glad there are a few collecting and maintaining it, because I sure wouldn't want to dedicate any part of my own house...
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    You Know You Are Old When

    My kids still do.
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    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Had a kickback event with my top handle saw, yesterday. Ate my Deere ball cap, and just scratched my scalp. I was relatively lucky. You always hear folks say they can’t imagine how this happens, until it happens to them, and I guess I’m in that boat now. I put more hours on chainsaws every...
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    For those with block heaters

    It always really irritated me, when I'd manage to get my long drive cleared and drive an hour to work, just to find people who lived in town, 5 minutes from the office, somehow couldn't get their lazy asses to work. Some folks will use any excuse they can find, to avoid a little work.
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    For those with block heaters

    Before this thread devolves into a scholastic debate over the intercept of two scales:
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    You Know You Are Old When

    Same time as me, but ours was a TI-99, sold 1979 - 1981. I think VIC-20 came in 1980. I remember when our school got one computer, to share among 25 teachers and 600 students, an Apple-II or II+. You could sign up for an after-school club to go use it, which ended up being like 3-4 kids at a...
  82. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    I recognize that train, and have been on it more than once. Which crossing? Did the police just happen to be behind that trailer at the time? Didn't see any news on it.
  83. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    That's a term I don't think we have here, or at least one I've never heard. I assume you mean a traditional wagon, like a hay wagon, with a steerable front axle?
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    For those with block heaters

    … and cold hydro oil only adds to the trouble, for any machine with a direct-drive hydro pump. Especially zero turns, as they’re usually spec’d for hydro oil based on an assumption of warm weather operation. My Deere 757 ZTrak is spec’d to run 15W-40 in the hydro pump, and it is a bear to...
  85. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    Especially the down-hill portion of the ride.
  86. WinterDeere

    Buying Advice Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start

    It's been more than two weeks. Hope you're feeling better from COVID, fatty. What's happening on the tractor horizon?
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    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    Speaking out of turn, here. But I suspect 90cummins reasoning was more about size, than material. Less air in a 30 gallon drum, versus a 50 gallon drum. Poly may also reduce fresh air exchange, if metal drum top didn’t have a good seal, anymore.
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    It's different because Millennials have somehow received the badge as "the first generation to not own a home", and the almost-continuous stream of whining that they will be the first generation not better off than their parents. It seems to me they not making less, but priorities are shifting...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    R&D and components cost money, so I understand the cost. But it's a luxury item, and what folks don't seem to get today, is that not everyone needs luxury items. You certainly can't prioritize them over building your nest egg, the first step of which is usually your primary residence.
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    For those with block heaters

    Yep, it's a thing. And you already cited the major drawback, charge hold time. Their major advantage is that, depending on the material system used (electrolytic, tantalum, ceramic), they may not require replacement as quickly. I just did a quick search, and it seems they're still up around...
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    $300,000 pet goat settlement

    My coworkers from China all looked at me as if I were the village idiot, when I told them those two cute little dogs running around my kitchen were not for dinner. It actually generated some incredulous disbelief on their part, with responses like, "well not tonight, we understand... but...
  92. WinterDeere

    25hp primarily for mowing?

    I'll bet your face hurts from all the smiling you did, today. :D
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    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    I had a post recently that explained this, but it got deleted, as someone apparently reported it as "politics". Seems we can't even talk history, without someone calling it political, anymore. But long story short, both of the last two administrations supported the same tariffs. Both sides of...
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    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Just like Millennials whining they can never afford a house, while sipping their second $7 coffee of the day and staring at their $1400 iPhone on a $100/month contract. :rolleyes: Their coffee and phone expenses alone are half a mortgage payment. I remember my first two years of being a...
  95. WinterDeere

    For those with block heaters

    ... or maybe installing in some way that thermostat doesn't operate correctly. If thermostat stays cold, unit will never turn off at prescribed temperature.
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    $300,000 pet goat settlement

    They're off by almost 4x, after this recent ruling!
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    $300,000 pet goat settlement

    Well, I hope Guiness is listening. I suspect we have a record here, for the most money ever paid for a goat.
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    For those with block heaters

    I've always wondered about batteries. I keep any of mine in cold storage on a maintainer, if they're going to be sitting more than a few days. But I've heard conflicting information on what keeps a battery from going bad in "normal" cold weather. Some say as long as it's fully-charged, it'll...
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    You Know You Are Old When

    AMEX Gold still has no limits. I made a single charge of $110,000 on mine earlier this year, and there wasn't even a hiccup or call to verify. I make many ~$10k charges per year on the thing, usually production parts from suppliers with whom we don't have established credit terms.
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    For those with block heaters

    I can understand that, but if oils are chosen appropriately for the temperature range, there's debatable benefit in waiting several more hours for a few degrees increase in oil temperature. It's not like your block heater is running your oil pump and pre-lubing the engine. And if anyone is...
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    $300,000 pet goat settlement

    Your boss tells you to go serve a warrant, you go serve the warrant. They're deputies. It's probable they didn't even know all of the details of the case, prior to it blowing up.
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    $300,000 pet goat settlement

    Agreed. Buyer and seller were both fine in canceling the sale, and seller offered to make up lost auction fees to the fair. So why is fair stuck in the mud on allowing a harmonious resolution? The poor sheriff's deputies being sent on a 20 hour round trip to retrieve a goat surely thought...
  103. WinterDeere

    For those with block heaters

    I'm really surprised, seeing all these recommendations for 3 - 6 hours. My diesels start just fine without a block heater down below 30F. When we get below 20F, and especially below 10F, then I'll plug in a block heater. But just 20 minutes after plug in, the exhaust and intake manifolds are...
  104. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    That is awesome! The eastern block, at it's best.
  105. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Yes, but I was only a kid.
  106. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Yeah, command line is still a great go-to for certain tasks. But I could never even imagine going back to an OS without multi-tasking, or that can't even copy/paste between programs. Want to write a report that needs a few graphs? You'll be starting and terminating Excel and Word six-dozen...
  107. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I remember having to set jumpers for IRQ and DMA numbers on each card. And then every time you'd get a new card (e.g. sound card), you'd have to resort everything around it, to have no addressing conflicts. We'd resort to paper to map out and set up a computer... a nerd's corollary to ICE's...
  108. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Each new introduction was monumental enough, I could probably guess with 95% certainty, based only on the month and year of purchase. There were a few short-lived odd-balls along the way, but especially the 8080 and x86 series each came with huge leaps in capability and architecture. Then...
  109. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I worked with older engineers born in the 1930's, late in their careers when I was starting mine in the 1990's. These guys all started on slide rules, went thru the whole calculator revolution, and retired on Pentium or even Xeon-level PC's. What a ride. It was amusing to me that they...
  110. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Remember when a "Gold card" meant something? Now they're handing "Platinum" and "Diamond" cards out to 22-year old's with questionable credit. :rolleyes: Kids sports have gone the same way, "Gold" is now the lowest medal, with the aforementioned Platinum, Diamond, and even Iridium being the...
  111. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    ... and no brakes on a 5k lb. "trailer".
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    Gone in 60 Seconds

    He did have some cute girls on that show. I just didn't think he was much to look at. :p
  113. WinterDeere

    Gone in 60 Seconds

    One of the greatest stories ever put to film, and maybe more times than any other story I can recall, would be Dickens' A Christmas Carol. I try to watch at least a few versions of this every year, but with 200 films, TV episodes, or animations of this story from major studios and maybe several...
  114. WinterDeere

    Gone in 60 Seconds

    You had me, until here. I'll take Theron over Benny Hill. Besides, they're both great! Why choose? Watch them both!
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    You Know You Are Old When

    Well, I guess they made that decision easy! :ROFLMAO: Our trash and recycling get picked up every week, separate trucks. I can't imagine it all goes to the same place, otherwise they wouldn't go to the extra expense for two trucks and two drivers, but I guess I don't really know or care...
  116. WinterDeere

    welding carts

    We have a winner... Nice rack!
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    You Know You Are Old When

    That's crazy! I was almost going to call BS on this bit of paranoia, then I saw you lived in California, and it all made sense. I can't imagine anything like that ever happening around here, you'd end up with a lot of well-aerated contractors. We have no law here specifically prohibiting one...
  118. WinterDeere

    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    The price of housing doesn't follow the price of eggs, or the cost of hiring employees. So, there are multiple price indexes used when calculating inflation, and depending on one's agenda, they tend to cite the one that favors the point they're trying to make. We know the Consumer Price Index...
  119. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    If run anything like our local government, it might be more about ease and user-friendliness, than cost. When you have to drive to the township building to buy a tag, and they're only open from 10:00am to 10:15am the third Thursday of each month... they don't always make it easy to follow the...
  120. WinterDeere

    25hp primarily for mowing?

    Wow... he must be old! Have you told him that the "space age" was roughly 1958 - 1972? "Comfortable," said no astronaut of the space age... ever. :ROFLMAO:
  121. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Hartford CT, I used to know some older guys who would do the same over a storm grate. They'd stomp the filter and slip that thru the grate, right behind the used oil.
  122. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    At age 30, I'd go to work all day, and then school or studies all night. Weekends would be spent working on the house all day, then going out at night. If I could catch 2-3 hours of sleep in my bed and another 2 hours on the train, I could make it through the week just fine, and get a little...
  123. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I spent yesterday pressure-washing our wrap-around porch, so I speak from very recent memory when I say pressure washers have an unacceptable level of blow-back onto the operator, for your particular application. :poop:🤮
  124. WinterDeere

    welding carts

    Another vote for a carts with drawers. Never understood why they don't all have drawers. A deep one for helmet and gloves, and a few shallow for everything else.
  125. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    Expected. Just like any new and developing tech. This is not a problem for wealthy early-adopters, but is always one of the major hurtles to overcome as new tech evolves from "early adopter" to "ubiquitous". Think of computer pricing in the 1990's. I had predicted in some post way back, that...
  126. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    ... and TV commercials of Christmas morning with big red bows on top of cars. :rolleyes: I'm relatively wealthy, but have never given nor received a new car for Christmas. Is this really some fraction of the car-shopping public substantial enough to justify an entire new genre of advertising?
  127. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Looks awesome, and you're lucky to have those helpers! But you're burning wood you just split, this year? You'd do well to let it dry 2 summers, as it will reduce the amount of wood you need for a given amount of heat, and keep your chimney cleaner. Freshly-split wood contains a lot of water...
  128. WinterDeere

    Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

    Haha... it's sold! That was a weird one. After listing it several times on CList, and having it sit months with no replies, I suddenly had three interested buyers inside of a week or two. The first one got it, and a pretty darn good price.
  129. WinterDeere

    25hp primarily for mowing?

    If you're not raising animals on it, why not let it just turn back into woods? That will happen naturally, and take fewer years than you might imagine, or could be planted to speed things along. I've watched a few local lots go back to woods, just being left alone for 10 years. Given another...
  130. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Camp grounds and/or state parks are close contestants for most disgusting bathrooms, anywhere. I’m glad to say that the bathrooms in most of the places I’ve worked have been kept clean, no puddles of piss on the floor. But I was always amazed at the large puddles of water people would leave on...
  131. WinterDeere

    Z-track grass clippings

    Probably depends on grass type, nutrient level, and climate. Here, if I don’t mow every 4th day in May, it looks like I’ve been brush-hogging hay, with deep windrows that won’t break-down and lay in.
  132. WinterDeere

    Z-track grass clippings

    If you read that somewhere, I’d argue the writer was confusing “not bagging” with mulching. Whether mulching or side-ejecting, long clippings laying on the lawn is both a cosmetic and potential health issue. But I’d argue that mulched debris is likely better than windrows of side-ejected...
  133. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    Horses were more common, I believe. No matter what tech revolution we're discussing, there will always be cases where falling back on the prior tech is a reliable way to get yourself out of a temporary bind. Nothing new, and certainly not unique to ICE's towing EV's.
  134. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    I believe it's 3000 - 4000 lb. in most states, which probably includes most vehicles one might want to flat tow behind an RV. They also have to be flat-tow compatible, which often means something with a transfer case that can be put into neutral. I think this may be way you see so many Jeeps...
  135. WinterDeere

    Beneficial Ownership tax filing now required under penalty?

    Not a surprise. It's California. It's a crying shame what your population and leadership has done to a state with such amazing weather, geography, and tech potential.
  136. WinterDeere

    Beneficial Ownership tax filing now required under penalty?

    That's been an issue here, as well. PA drivers licenses were one of those flagged about 10 years ago, as insufficient for means of booking flights, etc. Not sure why, it seems to be a pretty good form of identification, among the various states I've seen. Anyway, they made "Real ID" an...
  137. WinterDeere

    Tractor Insurance

    Insurance is a net-losing scenario, proved-out by the mere fact that insurance companies are for-profit entities. It makes sense to insure the things you cannot do without, and cannot replace otherwise, but nothing else. Personally, I can afford to just pay cash for a replacement tractor. It...
  138. WinterDeere

    Tractor Insurance

    Good to know, as I suspect damage or theft during transport must represent a relatively high fraction of total loss cases.
  139. WinterDeere

    Tractor Insurance

    I assume they've gone to the web by now, but when hunting for such a thing back in the day, you'd pick up a copy of Henning's Motor News. There were always specialty insurance companies advertising in those, for things like antique cars and other specialty items. I race an antique wood boat...
  140. WinterDeere

    Beneficial Ownership tax filing now required under penalty?

    Accountants screw up and miss things, everyday. Might be worth shooting them an email to inquire, just make sure it didn't fall thru the cracks.
  141. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    Had an older buddy at work with old-man prostate troubles, when I was in my 30's. We used to count how many younger guys would relieve themselves in the time he'd spend at the urinal, and it'd be normal to see 3-4 pass him, without even intentionally trying to embarrass the guy. He once told...
  142. WinterDeere

    12 year old oil, any good?

    Case? Farmall? Wheel Horse? :p
  143. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    For me, it has nothing to do with the splitting. My splitter also goes thru crotches and knots just fine, it doesn't take anything extreme. But they make for poor stacking, and poor Tetris when trying to stuff your stove to the gills, which is my usual aim. Moreover, when you have more wood...
  144. WinterDeere

    12 year old oil, any good?

    I'm not saying you're wrong, in fact I think it's probably fine to use very old bottled oil, as long as it's kept sealed and dry. But I do have a problem with your logic. The crude oil taken from the ground has as much to do with the oil that you're putting into your crank case, as a field of...
  145. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    I think that in states requiring brakes on all wheels, even this is not legal. Doing a quick little read on flat towing threads on a camping/RV forum, it seems that auxiliary braking systems on the flat-towed vehicle are mandatory in at least some states.
  146. WinterDeere

    12 year old oil, any good?

    Lol... true! But you do know there are a few stages of processing, between pulling crude from the ground, and generating the products you're pouring into your crank case?
  147. WinterDeere

    What about "Fix a Flat" for a very slow leak?

    I've done the same. Very little penalty for tubing a tractor tire. As stated before, probably 99% of slow leaks are bead seal issues. Once the location of the leak is identified, I try to clean the wheel in that area, hit it with abrasive and the rattle can if it's a painted rim, and then...
  148. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    I have a love/hate relationship with the forward collision avoidance system in one of my vehicles that I tend to drive a little more aggressively. When left on, it will often misfire, causing the vehicle to slam on the brakes when I don't want it to. More than once, this has happened while...
  149. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Same. If you want efficiency in processing, and again in stacking/storage, it's best to only haul the nice straight stuff back to the wood processing area. Leave everything less than perfect in the woods. That's easy for those of us in areas heavy with high-BTU trees to say, my perspective...
  150. WinterDeere

    12 year old oil, any good?

    Not sure I follow that logic. I'm 50 years old, but I generally won't reheat leftovers past 2-3 days. I don't even think I'd trust canned goods, if they were as old as me.
  151. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    General question, tandem trailering and trash bag windows aside: Trailers over 3000 lb. require brakes in PA, and I suspect most states have similar limits. So how are these types of car haulers ever legal? It appears most states require brakes on only one axle of the trailer, such that the...
  152. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    maybe not while driving! I can’t remember if it was Tony Hawk or Ron Wilkerson, but one of them was comparing their high ramp work to their wife’s horse jumping, and concluded riding the half pipe is way safer. Why? Only one brain involved. :LOL:
  153. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    There is no ban on electric vehicles in the USA, nor does any current legislation create any ban. That is happening in the EU, where ironically they have an infinitely higher fraction of apartment dwellers than we will ever see here, but there is no ban on gas/diesel engines existing or even in...
  154. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    There's an old saying that, "it's expensive to be poor." That often means that pays for conveniences they might have at home, if their living situation were better. That saying existed many decades before the latest push toward EV's, and was no less true then, than now.
  155. WinterDeere

    Share Pics of People Hauling or Towing Something Wrong

    He paid a lot of money to be here. It's about time the rest of you started respecting that, and following his rules. For the love of God, don't let him see the other threads! Most of them are worse than this one. :p
  156. WinterDeere

    12 year old oil, any good?

    I've used oil older than that, with no adverse effects that I can detect. But only if it's in a sealed and full (or at least nearly-full) container. Justified or not, I won't use oil from any open or mostly-empty container in any critical application, beyond a few years. Either recycle it, or...
  157. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Pet peeve: Employees or contractors who don't tell you when they've screwed up, or think they might have. And even more so, the prior bosses and managers who made them fear admitting mistakes. I have seen more time, money, and customer relationships wasted on errors that were covered up by...
  158. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    The ones we had didn't have a plastic clip for attaching the wing to the body. Instead, it has a curved slit thru the body, and you'd slide the wing thru it. It was actually a nice design, because it gave the wing a shape that seemed to improve lift. They seem to run $3/ea now, when bought in...
  159. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    My kids had a bag of about 25 of the "5-cent" versions, about 5 years ago. I suspect my wife must have bought a big lot of them as party gifts, and the leftovers were just stuck in my kids' toy bin. The wood quality was so bad that it was hard to break them off the sheet without a wing...
  160. WinterDeere

    The complaint compartment.

    I believe drug prices are adjusted worldwide to what the local system and market will bear. Covering tens of millions of dollars of R&D and regulatory costs with pills that cost pennies to manufacture and bottle, is a complex financial game. People always like to call out the cheap cost of...
  161. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    I brought it back on-topic. :ROFLMAO:
  162. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Yep. And even more-so to shore-up various parts of the older parts of the house, and carriage barn. My daughter's room has what must have been an old soffit beam set atop her wall, as it still has the rafter notches in it. Some of the large beams in my living room and basement ceilings show...
  163. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Thanks, but the prior owners get nearly all the credit for that. The stone in that addition was pilfered from the remains of the large dairy barn that used to stand in our front yard, unfortunately dismantled by a prior owner, so it was dug from the same fields as the rest of the house. Some...
  164. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Hah! How many stand around taking pictures of their own house? Not me! I just hunted, and the newest I could find was from 2011 or 2012, when I had several shutters off the house for window repairs. I guess I was debating whether to reinstall them, so I snapped a photo. So, here's an old...
  165. WinterDeere

    The day the music died.

    It's funny that I was never a fan of Anderson's voice, but without him, none of their greatest albums would sound anything like their final form. He was a huge motivating force in their songwriting and arranging. And yes, we should mention Neil... my personal drum hero, passed in 2020.
  166. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    Bummer. Glad you're okay, Gale.
  167. WinterDeere

    The complaint compartment.

    Some sort of special valve stem, that couldn't be replaced in-situ? With my regular tubeless tires on CUT, I'd have just ejected the old stem and pulled a new one thru, on the spot. Would've lost some liquid ballast, but it's easier to replace that back at the shop, than in the woods.
  168. WinterDeere

    The complaint compartment.

    Travel? It's been five years since I had mine done, but I'm thinking I paid that or less for two tires, although the tractor was already at their shop for some other dealer-installed options.
  169. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    That's the way most are around here, too. The closest I ever came to death by deer is not far from your neighborhood, that crazy bridge that runs under the eve of a tollhouse on Forrest Grove Road. Mom was driving an overloaded Ford Aerostar minivan, I was a teen in the passenger seat, and she...
  170. WinterDeere

    Beneficial Ownership tax filing now required under penalty?

    I think similar claims have been made about every Federal registry for, well... anything. Usually comes back to bite us in the ass, down the road.
  171. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    “Octopi… give them a few million years, they’ll be coming out of the oceans in Terra suits with water tanks on their heads.” :ROFLMAO:
  172. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    That's the way our local deer used to behave, and still do on occasion. Corn is the major crop around here, and PA roads generally have no shoulder, the right edge of your travel lane is the drainage ditch. Deer occasionally jump out of the tall grass in the drainage ditch at the edge of the...
  173. WinterDeere

    Beneficial Ownership tax filing now required under penalty?

    Yes, legit. My accountant hit me up on this a few months back. Existing businesses have until Jan.1 to file. Nope. Federal.
  174. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    I've done this, but it really doesn't work very well, unless you have a very smooth terrain and a very narrow range of log diameters close to ideal for a given tong size. More often than not, every damn log hops off the tongs six times on your way to your destination. A 10 ft. chain with a...
  175. WinterDeere

    What about "Fix a Flat" for a very slow leak?

    On a driven tire, isn't slime all going to end up in the tread area? If aiming to get it to the bead while driving, you have two forces working against you: gravity and centrifugal. And before any academic physicist jumps on me... Yes, I know gravity is not a force, and centrifugal is a...
  176. WinterDeere

    What about "Fix a Flat" for a very slow leak?

    Exactly. Most tubeless tractor tire leaks seem to be at the bead, and a small smear of bead sealant is a much nicer and better fix than any mess of crap you can pour into the tire. Or if it’s from a tread puncture, then just plug the damn thing, also a cleaner and more permanent fix. And if...
  177. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    I spread my college and grad school out over 14 years, since I was working full-time through most of it, paying my own way. Anyway, the result of that decade and a half of constant exam and project stress is that I had that dream pretty regularly, well into my 40’s. My personal version was...
  178. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    One can be both. It’s not always either/or. :D
  179. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    PA has been doing it since 1970, so I don't ever remember a summer when it wasn't light until past 9pm.
  180. WinterDeere

    You Know You Are Old When

    He’ll, I’m not even retired, but I haven’t been able to sleep past 5am since my early-40’s.
  181. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Dude, you’re in the wrong place. There’s barely a thread on this forum that doesn’t go 6-7 pages.
  182. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    I guess if we’re going to be on daylight time for 8 months of the year, and standard time for only 4, that’s the path of least resistance. For some reason, it really bothers me, as I just don’t understand the point of it. Since the beginning of keeping time, we’ve adjusted to “high noon”...
  183. WinterDeere

    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    Not my favorite episode of the series, but honestly... even an average episode of that show was better than the best from many others. The one where Edith was going thru menopause was probably the funniest one I can remember.
  184. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    There have been people pushing to stay on daylight savings time, which would be weird. High noon would not be high noon at the geographic center of the time zone, anymore. We would be permanently out of sync with everything from satellites to historical astronomical data, and those countries...
  185. WinterDeere

    Your last generator Maintenance Run

    51 years old, and it's still 26 of the best minutes ever aired on TV: If you haven't seen it, a computer glitch declared Archie dead.
  186. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    All this talk of wood got me into the mood for moving some, which I did for a short while before sunset tonight. I usually move 1 cord to a smaller "shed" located on high ground near my barn, at the beginning of each heating season. I pull from this when the ground is too soggy to get down to...
  187. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Yeah, walnut trees are not great yard trees. Some things won't grow under them, they get their leaves last in spring, and lose them first in the fall. Although lack of leaf clean-up is one bonus, since the walnut leaves all seem to blow away into the woods, on their own. But with regard to...
  188. WinterDeere

    EV owners of today and tomorrow

    The only whine you should hear are your timing gears, supercharger, or high-ratio rear diff. :devilish: Oh... that, and your wife. "Slow down!" :ROFLMAO:
  189. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    Can't watch the video right now, my office mate is on a conference call. But doesn't VW have somewhat of a history of false claims, regarding mileage and emissions?
  190. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    There's a lot more to "terrific firewood" than you can get from reading some online BTU charts. We average around 10 full cords per year, adding supplemental heat to our too-large and too-old house, thru a pair of Blaze King wood stoves. We burn mostly red oak and hickory that I source from...
  191. WinterDeere

    Tractors and wood! Show your pics

    Wow... now I feel old. Never thought there would be a day when that line required explanation, but I guess it has been 40 years.
  192. WinterDeere

    What is some of your Pet Peeve's

    lol... just like everything is a "disrupter" in today's advertising, and turning "industry on it's head". :rolleyes: I didn't check Bravo's math, but wouldn't be surprised if it's right. There's a fixed amount of potential energy in one gallon of gasoline, and forward motion requires an...
  193. WinterDeere

    75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less?

    Wasn't the Baja only introduced after 2000, like the Chevy Montana? If you want to talk about something from Subaru, that was before it's time, wouldn't that be the Brat? Of course, an OEM putting seats in the open bed of a pickup might never happen, today.
  194. WinterDeere

    Deere Cool-Gard II equivalent

    You can run 5W-30 year-round in those. The second number is really what dictates performance at higher temperature, and both products you're comparing are -30's. That's why they have the same max temperature in the graphic. The only penalty for running 5W-30 over 10W-30 in summer is slightly...
  195. WinterDeere

    Deere Cool-Gard II equivalent

    They have 0W-40 weight in both dino and synthetic. The dino juice runs about $7/quart, and the synthetic runs $10-$14/quart, depending on weight and whether you're buying in quart bottles or gallon bottles. I have noticed their 0W-40 ($14) is more expensive than 15W-40 ($10), probably just...
  196. WinterDeere

    Deere Cool-Gard II equivalent

    Most modern Deere service and owner’s manuals now list the flush/replace interval at 6 years when using Deere Coolgard II, but 2 years for all other coolant types. So, cost is higher, but usage is 3x less and convenience of not doing a drain/flush/refill every 2nd year is a huge bonus. Wow...
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