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The Big Iron names may do the leg work and compliance work for you.

I tend to think you missed his/her point. Not everyone is making as much relative income as they did in the past. Many jobs that were marginally good in the past are no longer so. Food inflation is biting a lot of working families really hard. Seniors on Social Security only in reality...

Something most people overlook is dealer overhead in their markups. In my case, the cash and interest incentives are from the manufacturer, not the local dealership. Negotiation is really about the dealer 'markup' over 'true invoice cost'. Personally, I am willing to pay a bit more for...

Yes! And you don't have the risks, rewards, or volatility of the stock market and the swings we see.

I think this is a somewhat divisive issue as I see a divergence. Everyones views are shaded by the people we are around. You have groups of generally younger folks who perform poorly scholastically and blame others. Then there are those looking for the easy way out so, look for handouts from...

Right now, I'm getting offers for a $5K cash rebate for cash payment or $1500 to $3000 cash rebates for financing at 0% for 24 months to 3.9% for 84 months. With long-term interest rates being a bit volatile, 3.9% on a tractor could be a good 'investment' return for some people and companies.

With interest rates being so low, the only real financial risk is repossession for non-payment or rising interest rates on long-term financing. Cash payment upfront makes more sense with higher interest rates. Long-term <4% rates for most encourage them to do different things with cash upfront...

I was part of this CIRCUS with General Motors working for a GM subsidiary. I could get a new Chevy pickup at "COST"! Problem was, I could buy a new Chevy or Ford at retail for less money equipped the same!

Any business has to make a profit to stay in business. You may see them temporarily move things at a loss to move dead stock or solve temporary cash shortages but, these are fleeting and generally rare because they are so harmful to the company's financial health. We all know good brands that...

If you are referring to Messick's, they are a multi-brand dealer.

The rear axle on my L4600 belongs on a much smaller tractor. The front axle isn't anything to brag about but, compared to the rear axle it looks good. Compared to something else, today I would not own an L4600. It's not that it is a bad tractor but, that is marketed to be something it is not...

Cat, John Deere, New Holland, CaseIH, Kubota, Bobcat, and several Japanese and Korean options are on the market with equipment like this. They cost pretty similar money when they have similar features. The same can be said of backhoes. Pretty spendy but, priced similarly among the brand options.

I have moved wet sand and silage. Both are much heavier than you would expect. Same with some round bales. Is it 1300lbs or 2300lbs? Is it even more?

ABSOLUTELY! I don't do that even when the bucket is empty! On a narrow tractor with not much weight in the rear, that is a good way for the tractor to end up on its side on flat ground and is almost guaranteed to lay it over on heavily sloped land. Tractor stability rules! Darwin award...

Between my friend and I, we have a dump trailer, a small tracked Cat excavator, and a smattering of things like a post-hole digger and a 7' gear drive tiller. He is actively looking to buy a Kubota SVL-75-2/95-2 so, I'm looking for something along the lines of a Massey 5S tractor or possibly a...

Don't forget the weight of any rainwater in the material being lifted.

Ovrsd, That looks like a really stabile tractor for moving hay bales!

Yes, stability is often overlooked by new owners focused on engine Hp numbers and loader lift ratings without regard to overall stability on flat surfaces, ignoring the fact that they use them on less than perfect surfaces. In my case, I take my loader bucket full of whatever to just high...

That is a good way to tip or roll your tractor.

It sounds like you are talking about the new John Deere dealership model! You don't happen to work for Deere, do you?

Sounds like my Kubota L4600. Even with water/beetjuice in the rear tires, it is too light for what the loader can lift.

We lost the front hub on one of our tractors when the bearing raceway was damaged. Thankfully, the spindle was fine so we only needed a new hub which was pretty spendy all on its own. Like a chain, it is only as strong as its weakest link!

The divisiveness was used to motivate people initially. Now that it has taken hold, it is mainly a polarizing thing to drive people to extremes without any moderation for the middle. And like you, I see good people on both sides of most issues. There are many though that are blind...

With 10's of thousands of forums there, there is a place for almost anyone there. Whether you want wade through some of the time wasters to find a good one is up to the individual. Without the Flashlight forum on Reddit, I would not be a happy member of the Texas Flashlight Club. Thy B&T...

I'll suggest Reddit is a place where some forums are a "free for all" and others where you will be banned if "you don't follow the politician" bent of that forum. I take pride in being banned from one of them for posting "I'm not a fan of overt sexuality in public" and being labeled as...

Sounds like you are talking about John Deere tractors! Their dealer Franchise agreements also drove most dealers out of the business. How many small dealerships can afford to inventory all the parts John Deere now requires? I get the business model as a move from owner-operator tractor...

Yes! And other issues like catering to hobby farmers. Their large ag tractors are functional for sure but, for similar money based on my recent shopping, I can get more tractor with better features for the same cost. If Chey HD pickups were cheaper or more capable for the same cost compared...

There is a real push behind this for production agriculture to feel ever increasing numbers of people using fewer farmhands. Farm families are following the trend of fewer children so, fewer "unpaid" farmhands and, production agriculture has mainly gone commercial with hired hands and no or...

The problem is that a lot of those discussions are related to direct negative impacts on those people and what it is doing to their family's opportunities. It is hard for people to be optimistic when their paychecks are not able to buy the food it did in the past and the impact to their...

Great point. In my Massey search, I'm looking for one with front suspension because my back isn't what it was in my youth. The Mercedes articulated tractor I ran in Germany had coil suspension on all four corners and was a joy to use. A Massey with the loader accumulator for loader bounce and...

Foot throttles and a Hydrostat or clutchless F/R reverser certainly make loader ops work faster for most people.

Hard quotes for delivery and consistent with the price calculator at the time on Kubota's website. At first, I thought I was getting a market premium "market adjustment" from the dealer but it was Kubota's pricing driving the change in my potential tractor. Kubota lost me as a long-time Kubota...

A lot of the SCUT and CUT buyers lack the knowledge and experience to buy the tractor they are. They also are prone to roll-overs and similar things due to no load awareness and the effects of your Cg.

Yes, politics distract from most conversations in life these days. People need an "outlet" to let off steam or to reduce the pressure and stress of everything from invasive politics in medical practices to strong personal feelings. This affects any independent business owner whether your local...

As I have said before: Government policies affect the cost and availability of most goods in the public marketplace. Sometimes it is just bureaucracy and, sometimes it is intentional government policy. Want more home ownership or less? Want cheaper or more expensive gasoline? Want people to...

In a similar family situation. My sister "had to have" a tractor from my father. In ~15 years I don't think she ever drove it and, the motor is now locked up. She has decided she is moving and can't "store" "her" tractor any more so, it is headed back my way in the not so distant future. The...

The question is what actions will be taken to support those 200 banks and their customers? And, what will this mean to finance things like our tractors and their implements? The question I have is why people who didn't do any reasonable "due diligence" passed on this deficiency and their lack...

Some people have their feelings hurt easily even when the post wasn't about them! ;)

I would further suggest that tractors in the Kubota L-series and smaller, are largely along the lines of a motorcycle or boat for many buyers in these smaller tractor sizes. Like motorcycles, if someone wanted one, they already have one or, they simply can't afford one. The market is super...

Government policies affect all aspects of our lives. Government policies are hard to discuss without getting into some level of politics. As the original title states, "New Tractor Sales Are Declining". This is due to government policies mentioned in this thread already and many others along...

You might want to look at some of the Massey options. Their smaller tractors share a lot in common with popular brands and in many cases are really just a rebranded TYM or some other similar manufacturer from Japan like Iseki.

Any comments or thoughts on the French-built Massey 5S or 5700S? Also, other than the Dyna-6 available on the Deluxe 5S, what else is different between them?

This is a bit of grey area for most people. While I can see posts specifically about the current president's or the previous president's policies becoming a flame war of little positive value and distracting to the intent of this community, discussing availability and pricing is as much about...

The Ford Lightning is a good option for many people. Personally though, as an engineer looking at what it takes to mine all the rare Earth stuff in a modern EV, I am not convinced it is all that environmentally friendly, not to mention the child and forced labor practices to acquire them...

Can't you adjust the hydraulic flow on your tractor or, is it bang-bang only functioning? The Massey I'm looking at is configurable so, I don't have to run ~30GPM to the loader if I don't want to. My Kubota L-series is adjustable as well. On my L4600, I can control the speed, and stroke the...

Kubota stuff is pretty spotty. Some things come quick, some never. With some tractors made in the USA and others in Japan, that affects things as well.

I tried the insurance option but, the premiums were simply unaffordable. Perhaps finance-related insurance options are more palatable but, where I live theft and tornado damage along with taxes is simply beyond the means of many working-class people.

Political actions during COVID are a big part of the reason tractors are so expensive and hard to find these days. Then there are personalities whining about what working-class people like most of us are or are not doing. Yes my cows may be farting for global warming and my tractor might emit...

The Kubota I thought I wanted was $116K a few months ago, today it is ~$88K. That is still ~$12K more than in 2019 Pre-COVID but, reasonable I think considering inflation's effects today.

Factory incentives are picking up so, not so much a sales event but a discount all the same. Personally, I don't care what they call it as long as it costs me less and the tractor I want is in stock or has a confirmed build date!

Things didn't work that way for the big corporations I worked for. Non-degreed people could promote to a certain level but, never above a small team lead position. If you can't check the Bachelor's degree box, you would never promote into any meaningful leadership role. Whether your degree...

Cartoon targeted at engineers and similar trades.

Yes, that is what I am seeing. $5K rebate and an extra 3% from the factory or heavily discounted finance terms.

Apprenticeships are awesome in Germany! These provide real-world practical skills in whatever job field a student wants to pursue. I knew one young man who dreamed of being a "sweet baker" and a young girl who wanted to be a mother. The girl was the one that really surprised me when she left...

I hear this frequently referred to as degree inflation. Do I really need a community college Associate's Degree to run a cash register at Walmart? Probably when you consider the sad state of affairs at most High Schools today. A good work ethic in today's youth is missing in a large majority...

The question is if and then, which large banks have the assets to absorb the liabilities for the customer base. This is true for a lot of regional banks which is the opposite of what most in Congress want. Bank consolidation is against the wishes of most government politicians and an...

If I could have transferred and kept the college credits I had earned and paid for I would have. In the closed university system, transferring would have meant I basically started over and wasted the time and tuition previously spent. In that perspective, it seems like a pretty corrupt system...

Unless you look at the policies under COVID. Move along ... Nothing to see here ... Oh, and the proclamation: "I am science!".

All of the mandatory classes like English, Sociology, Physics, some Math, History, and, most of my Freshman and Sophmore years of Engineering. My Junior and Senior years of engineering were mostly about fluffing the egos of Professors and their underlings kissing their asses daily. Let's see...

Yes, if someone like myself was caught up in a flawed bank like that, would I be made whole by the current administration and the minions that advocate those policies? Why did financially privileged start-ups who DID NOT DO basic financial due diligence get protection far in excess of the FDIC...

Fair points. I personally found the public education I had to be more of an incompetent fraternity of people with little regard for their pupils and the education delivered. It was really more of a system of graft self-enrichment. College was mostly about ass-kissing and inflating instructor...

I know of a few people who get SSI because of their kid's disabilities, mostly drug-related but, a couple are fetal alcohol syndrome. Some of the volunteer education-oriented programs I have worked really introduced me to some of the best and worst of society.

Section 8 housing, food stamps, and similar public assistance. I worked as a cashier at Walmart for a period of time between jobs where WIC and "food stamps" were abused as well. I personally had customers who spent ~$200 on groceries with WIC and "food stamps" who then paid ~$600 for beer...

Yes, a Kubota 7060 to mow ~half of a 10 acre property with a 12' batwing mower is overkill if you are making payments! Ditto for the folks who financed an L-series Kubota to maintain their 2-acre "ranch".

Labor shortages are as much a symptom of government policies and proclamations of inequity as anything. Then there is the issue of people acquiring the skills to be house framers, car mechanics, plumbers or electricians, or any number of other things. Just because you have an MBA with $250,000...

Current government policies and reckless government spending may not be hurting those that are well off, however, for average working-class people who are living paycheck-to-paycheck, the brink of eviction and bankruptcy are close at hand, and inflation is forcing lots of them to food banks to...

Playing some phone tag with the Merlo 'mothership' on the East Coast. Everyone has been out to Las Vegas for some show out there so, still, an open issue to find out more about this interesting telehandler.

My solution was a 3-pt mounted finish mower on my B2601. So much easier to use and I have better ground clearance when I'm out in my pasture doing chores. I got my Landpride gently used for $1750 with 72" of cut.

The amount of time for me with a 5' versus 6' is pretty significant. The 7' foot rotary cutter is awesome in a larger field but, is a pain in the corner of a pasture fence. If all you are doing is trim work, anything with a gearbox to match your tractor PTO horsepower will work. Costs of a 5'...

No! I run a 4' rotary cutter, also called a brush hog, being my 26Hp Kubota B2601 in heavy saw grass up to 6 foot tall and have mowed light brush and heavy vines with it as well. You absolutely want something to cover your rear tire tracks. A 4-foot rotary cutter with a gearbox to handle that...

Reduces cycle time. Not super important on SCUT's but, if you are in a hay field, cutting your cycle time on the loader makes a huge difference. There is a reason 100~150Hp tractors advertise pump capacity prominently!

Interesting! Finding a good used tractor for less money is going to be hard for you I suspect. Why? A really good example will sell pretty close to the new price or, it will have a lot of hours on it and need maintenance occasionally that you may not be prepared to do yourself. Then there is...

No loaders on tractors like these, especially in today's market, is a very hard sell. Especially Kubota loaders. When purchased separately from the tractor, the Kubota loaders are HORRENDOUSLY EXPENSIVE! Ask me how I know! ;) My shopping for the past two weeks for a new tractor in a much...

I am somewhat involved with charity support in other parts of the world. If you look at the children working gold fields or rare Earth mineral mines in Africa, they are often in camps run by Jihadist terror groups in conditions harkening back to the atrocities of the Belgian Congo. Even UN...

True for people that are very short-sighted and have very limited memories. Let's see, shorter lifespans. Human rights atrocities in China, Ukraine, North Korea, and arguably significant portions of Africa and the Mid-East. Sorry but, I just don't see the 'wealthier' comment for the average...

For me, this has a lot of political content regarding vote buying and pandering to voters by various groups. When you look at Political Action Committees and who funds them, then look at the laws passed by those benefitting from the PAC money, to me it often looks like vote buying. In the end...

Never heard of it before. I would check for water in the oil and for any wiring issues due to mice and other critters. Why do you need or want this tractor?

What can anyone tell me about the differences between a Massey 5700S and 5S? Has anyone run one of these Masseys and a CaseIh Maxxum or Vestrum that can comment on the experience? Is a $125K remotely reasonable to purchase one? And any comments from experience with ordering one to be built...

Interesting option there. I have been around industrial telehandlers before and, a German Mercedes articulated ~75HP tractor that was the bee's knees for the farming I did over there. Too bad there aren't any Mercedes tractor options over on this side of the Atlantic because that would be an...

No, just that with some risk tolerance and education, you can make money in your 401K with appropriate investment strategies even in down or volatile markets.

Vaccination policies like face mask policies were a largely political solution and a control issue. While I didn't believe in the crackpot Social Media theories about the Bill Gates mind control, Mark of the Beast, etc. theories, there were real risks for some population groups that were...

Actually, I'm up a lot more than the rate of inflation over my pre-COVID balance compared to today. I'm not bragging so percentages and dollar values are intentionally omitted but, I made more during the ~2 years of COVID than I did during the previous Presidental period with some stop losses...

Yes, I watch most of the Messick YouTube videos. However, while they offer some solid tractors, I would say my L4600 is lightly built for what it is. It simply lacks steel in the rear end and is not well-balanced. While an awesome tractor for the normal "ranchette" that is so trendy today, on...

While it borders on Political commentary, Oligharcs of the world have way too much influence and do a lot to diminish the quality of life for many population groups. Doesn't matter if we are talking about China, Russia, or the "West". Bill Gates has done a lot to help disadvantaged people...

The only real hangup for me regarding Massey tractors is the lack of Massey Agriculture dealers near me in Texas or Oklahoma. CaseIH seems to have much better coverage geographically around me so, the Maxxum 115 is getting some consideration. The whole CNH, Agco, and Fiat conglomeration of...

Near-term price inflation for SxS and compact tractors is heavily influenced by COVID shortages and production slowdowns. A bit like Ferrari, all you need is one more buyer than available cars and you have ever-increasing pricing. For the M5-111 I got a hard quote on, just prior to COVID...

In my case, I was told the package was delivered but I never got it so, the insurance was null and void and a refund was not possible since I was unable to prove it was defective or not as represented. Turns out, what I paid for insurance on the package was totally wasted money too! I lost the...

Yes, back pre-COVID, I shopped for an MF4707 really hard but, decided to opt for the Kubota M5-111 because the available MF4707's were so hard to locate and local dealers at the time were either going out of business or didn't know what the 4707 was so, service was going to be really...

So, coming back to the original subject and, stepping away from 401K's, cryptocurrencies, fed policy, etc. ... Is now a good time to buy a new tractor or, does the majority think it is better to wait a few months or later into the Fall season? Specifically, in my case, I am looking for a ~95HP...

Cryptocurrency, as we know it today, lacks regulation and oversight so, fraud or simple mismanagement is common. You can argue the US Dollar is no longer on the gold standard but, it is significantly more stable than any of the coins which lack any tangible real property backing or government...

I use virtual cards to prevent and deter credit card theft. Pay at the Pump is the worst. Do I want to wait inline for 5~10 minutes to leave cash with the clerk and then come back to the line for another 5~10 minutes to get my cash? Heck no! My EU shave soap order gets a Virtual Credit Card...

I just bought some kitchen knives and offered the seller a USPS Money Order. He said no and insisted he wanted PayPal and wanted me to pay the PayPal fees. I said no. 4 days later he lowered his price and got no offers. I will go to the USPS tomorrow with cash to get a Money Order which will...

Farm property where I lived was around 21%~24% during the period house mortgages were 18%. Wheat was also $1.02/bushel.

My last two tractors were 100% cash at delivery. The dealer was sort of waffling with letting me take the last tractor home, assuming a check on late Saturday until I pulled out a tall stack of $100's to pay in full. I'm getting ready to buy my next tractor without any financing as I type this...

Your everyone doesn't include me. However, I started doing this in my 20's so, I have taken my lumps in the past when my account value was much smaller. And no, I don't play options or do the Wallstreetbets MEME stock thing either. I'm a classic stock picker and have done well during the...

It is all about tracking. Government agencies "mine" advertising data for all sorts of reasons. If the government wants to know when and where "I get my coffee", they should ask me or get a court order if they aren't following me around. I also despise targeted marketing and shopper profiles...

Most of my banking does not involve tangible physical cash money. PayPal, Visa/MC/Discover/AMEX/etc., and online banking are dominant in modern business. A few Luddites use checks though. Myself, I do a lot of cash personally because I generally detest having my purchases of coffee, or...

Look up "fiduciary"! Money management has expenses like any business and I don't expect people to work for me for free. Whether they are paid too much or too little is a different topic though. The worst part is the "owners" investing their retirement in self-directed 401K's who think they...

Not really if you follow recommended investment profiles. You need growth to keep up with inflation but, you also need investments in stable cash-oriented investments to carry you through the down years. For people in Mutual funds, look at the "year plans" that are managed for a retirement...

Had a friend with a real need from unemployment that was earned after 15 years of hard work. It took him ~2.5 years to go through all the appeals and bureaucracy but, I still remember the day he got a 2 1/2 inch tall stack of bi-weekly unemployment checks. Regarding your friend, I don't know...

One of my sisters doubled her take-home pay during COVID and of course, had zero commuting expenses or work-related clothing obligations. Getting her to look for another job almost took divine intervention. I and my other sister were working our asses off to make ends meet at the end of the...

I apparently misread your intent. Apologies for that mistake. In my case, I don't see the media and a lot of politicians working for the good of the whole, only pandering to a segment of society. Divisiveness in politics is at a very high level at the moment with almost no meaningful...

As someone on the receiving end of one of those propositions under different circumstances, I left and never came back. Not really what you want in a business that caters to mainstream America IMHO. Plus, in my case, she made no effort to sell what I came to buy, only to get into my wallet...

Telehandlers and skid steers are nice but, I need to retain my 3-pt and PTO for my mower and tiller. Having used an excavator, I'd get that before a telehandler. Sling'ing a pallet of sacked concrete is something most people don't know how to sling properly but, the excavator is awesome for...

Exactly! The number of people staying at home and not looking for a job is much higher now than it was pre-COVID. During the pandemic, people made more money staying home than they did working. Now, they continue to look for continued government handouts. This is why companies like my...

Housing is a really bad area for many people. As noted, mortgages, property taxes, insurance, etc. are all based on higher housing values which have driven up the costs of owning your house significantly beyond simple inflation in the individual components of home ownership. For example: 5%...

Pre Tier4 tractors seem to carry a hefty premium. Not a fan of some of the early Tier 4 emissions systems but, the newer ones don't seem to suffer the issues the earlier ones did. Common rail fuel injection systems seem to have helped lighten the impact of emission hardware.

I'm looking pretty closely at the MF "Global series" 57xx/67xx tractors right now. The CaseIH Maxxum series are priced pretty close though so, even though it is a bigger tractor, I'm thinking it over pretty hard too. On the gently used market side though, very few of them have loaders so...

... in the Bermuda Triangle!

How in the world do you think increased inflation, public debt, and all the ESG/Green initiative are going to allow "the media and politicians" to save it?

My taxes aren't at an all-time low. This year, federal income tax for me looks like it will be up ~30% according to my tax people due to changes in depreciation and deductions I can't take against my gross income which is also down this year. In terms of negativity and 'gloom and doom', it is...

Locally, the Farmall 75C class tractors are pretty wide spread but, are smaller than I am looking for. Agco and Fiat seem to be the dominant players and market tractors under different brands and paint colors.

Around where I live, there is a really strong Club Car dealer that moves a huge number of Club Car golf carts to various retirement communities and industrial customers. With the Kubota motor, I tend to think I should be pretty safe with that vehicle over the long term. And yes, I expect to...

Pre-COVID, I was going to buy a Kubota M5-111 but, COVID hit before it could be delivered and all they got were "chicken coop" tractors which wouldn't work for me. Supply chain shortages and general price gouging due to limited supply and huge demand seems to be subsiding so, I'm back in the...

The new generation Kubota's are ~2,000lbs and the XRT1550 is listed as 1550lbs.

I am considering a Club Car XRT1550 with the Kubota D722, Club Car XRT1550, or a Kubota RTV-X1120 with its D1105. The XRT1550 has a smaller lower Hp engine but, has more trailering capacity and an aluminum chassis. The RTV-X1120 has a bit more ground speed on asphalt (25 vs 29MPH) and the...

Land Pride I run a Landpride RCR1548 on my Kubota B2601. With a heavy 3pt "bush hog" like this, you really need some nose weight to keep the tractor balanced. That being said, I have used this tractor and mower in heavy saw grass that was 6' high without ever tripping the slip clutch, though...

There are a lot of tractors with a loader that is too big for the tractor's front end which puts a lot of stress and wear and tear on the tractor. When you are looking to buy a tractor for heavy loader use, be sure the tractor is built to handle the loads you will be lifting. Case in point, my...

Those Bobcat's look pretty attractive to me but, they are few and far between. If I could find one for a reasonable amount of money, I could see it being super handy for use at my farm.

Better local air quality but, the global emissions still affect everyone, just not locally like in the past. Personally, the Chines coal power plants to me are the biggest thing I see hurting global air quality. They are striving to beat the poor air quality the USA had in years past, only on...

First, people are talking about dissimilar machines that don't really make sense in comparison. A huge tracked Skid Steer like a Bobcat T870 is significantly different than most wheeled skids. Costs generally start around $50K and easily top $100K. Next are cost differences. A ~100+ HP...

I used a Mercedes Benz articulated one that was ~55Hp and tuned up to ~65HP in Germany on a dairy. I used to mow, work a dairy, vacuum pump and spread the manure pit, and similar activities. That was one awesome tractor! I wish I could get one in the USA today. Those front mounted 3-pt...

I'm sure of the current Ford F-350's but, the F-450/550 have a 3" receiver. Most Diesel Rams (not 4500/5500) have a 2 1/2" receivers with a sleeve to reduce it to 2". The problem my friend has with his Dodge pickup is not the tow vehicle but, the receiver ball he sticks on it. Yes, it is a 2...

Dad had a friend tagged for Thou$ands in a weight fine in New Jersey hauling his travel trailer. All trailers were forced to cross the scales and guess what, that monster 5th wheel travel trailer combined with a Ram 3500 dually was over 26K#'s. Seems like his fine to the state of New Jersey...

It varies from State to State. I know in Dallas they had the bus mechanics get their CDL for insurance cost reasons.

My BigTex 14PI is ~3100lbs without chains or any mud. Weight distribution is required to tow safely. Yes, you want weight on the tongue of the trailer so it doesn't POGO going down the road and will stop safely but, 1~2,000lbs is plenty. Also, remember that the load will often shift forward...

I had a ~25 year-old haul a rented 25,000# escavator out for some work on my property with a Chevy 2500 Silverado with a really good trailer. I'm glad I wasn't on the road while he pulled that. That trailer easily weighed 6,000# if he had flat or someone pulled out in front of him or pass and...

At 13, I was driving our 1-ton Ford dually work truck ~16miles each way to fuel the tractor and do basic maintenance so, I did have a lot of experience on public roads for someone my age. I also drove a wheat truck to town some when I was 14 and 15 which most would call a 2-ton or 2.5-ton truck...

Something to consider, a used older tractor like a MF 265 or IHC/McCormick W-4 is $3k~$6K if you wait and watch sales for something clean like a parade tractor that was painted ~8 years ago. A heavier tractor will serve much better working a gravel driveway and turning clay soil. Implements...

As a 16 year old farm kid, I drove a Cab-over semi with Tempte SuperGrain wagon. Putting a kid in an 80,000# truck to drive ~40 miles round trip is pretty @#%^! dumb IMHO. Luckily, I didn't die or take anyone with me. Still astounded dad thought that was a reasonable thing to do. Ignorance...

You can haul that sort of weight with singles but, dual rear wheels is a lot easier and safer. A good gas engine will work if you don't expect to run 75MPH up the backside of a good hill. Most importantly, living in East Texas like you, I will strongly suggest good truck AND trailer brakes are...

Since you live in Texas, the Ag Exemption will have you covered for legitimate runs like you describe.

I have used my friends Wallenstein chipper and that thing is a beast for a ~45HP gearbox. Chipped for three days straight once and it pulled pretty hard on a 4~5" branches but, everything shipped up well.

I see a lot of variation of the MPG figures. I get road, altitude and, load differences being factors along with gear ratios, transmissions, and tires. Heck driving style can make a huge difference in most pickups I have owned. My Tunda with the 5.7L would get ~7MPG if I drove it like an...

Similar arguments in pickups. Does the modern "minivan" need a diesel engine? And how many miles do I need to pull a really heavy trailer each year to justify the higher cost of ownership and the higher cost of the initial purchase price?

Wow! A wealth of information and history there! Thanks!

3-cylinder vs. 4-cyclinder engines and tires are really different. The cabs are also much nicer on the 75C/Powerstar.

The New Holland dealer told me the CaseIH were AGCO. o_O

CaseIH and Massey Freguson are Agco companies while New Holland is part of Fiat isn't it? The Workmaster and 75A both have bias ply tires. I really want radials so, that means either the 75C or PowerStar. There are some loader differences too but, apparently that is a corporate secret for New...

A friend has a Kioti CK30 and my sister has a DK30 tractor and I have used both of them enough not be a fan. Hydraulics are not smooth which matters to me and the driver station lacks some modern conveniences and ergonomics. Maintenance to keep them in service has been a bit of a problem too...

I'm looking for a ~75Hp 4WD drive tractor with a strong loader. I originally was going to buy a Kubota M5-111 but, that ship sailed away 2 years ago and hasn't been seen since. I am not a fan of the John Deere mega-dealership plan and proprietary software in addition to premium pricing. I had...

OP here! I have pretty much given up on a heavier Kubota. Prices and delivery around here are not reasonable today. For less money, I can get a CaseIH or MasseyFerguson and they are generally better 'balanced' for loader work in addition to normal field work. Massey dealerships around me are...

A's and B's are bit bigger and heavier. In that size and weight class, I'd be more tempted by a 630/730. The 430/530 models are are pretty expensive due to lower weight and their smaller size. The C/GP also has a look similar to an unstyled D which I like. The one gotcha for me with the C/GP...

While I really like those 30-series JD tractors, they seem a bit too heavy for my usage. Those C/GP seem to be a good lighter weight tractor if I can find one in reasonable condition for reasonable money. I really like the general looks of the McCormick Deering tractors but, those are few and...

I want to get a stationary engine, probably a McCormick-Deering but the John Deere options seem to be a lot easier to find along with Fairbanks Morse options. Where should I be looking? The Western Minnesota Threshermen show was a really good experience and while I really like the Steam...

I need a smaller tractor meaning not super heavy that will turn tight for general light duty usage and, if things go well basic transport at tractor shows between where I'm staying and the show itself as I am starting to volunteer some and might need something to pull a small trailer as well...

A flail mower around here is like a "red headed step child from 3 marriages and 2 affairs ago". If I didn't already have a heavy duty 7' rotary "brush hog" mower, I would probably travel 1200 miles to buy one today. I went the Italian flail mower dealer that I think as called I-80 Direct...

He has a new EA "Rotary mower" headed our way in ~4 months and I have a Land Plane coming. I know I will be glad when he pulls his driveway and trails with my Land Plane!

We aren't mowing a rock quarry but, there are rocks that get exposed with soil erosion and similar stuff along with a stump or two hidden in brush and tall grass. Heck, I hit a solid metal shaft that came from who knows where and had been there many years, likely decades. I tilled up some...

I'm initially looking at a Fimco 40 gal. 4-Nozzle 3 Point Hitch Sprayer commonly seen at Tractor Supply and similar big box stores. I don't want junk but, I also can't afford $3K for sprayer. I don't want to spend ~$600 on something that won't work in the long run or that is problem prone. I...

My friend is essentially a brother from different mother. We both look out for each other better than my siblings do for me. When my parents were alive, my parents treated him like a son as well and he treated them like parents. I'm not worried about him breaking my mower. If he did, he...

Heat and puller have not moved it at all. We used a torch to heat it up pretty hot and used a puller on it with no movement.

In terms of "welding", I am referring to vibration and stress seizing the stump jumper hub to the PTO gearbox shaft, not a true arc welding problem.

The Kioti mower he has is really a lightweight entry level model. I have used it in my pasture which is pretty tame for mowing other than an occasional branch that is buried in the grass.

My friend and I currently have need of a class1/2 convertible rotary mower that has a 5' cut. He is looking at a 20-series LandPride/Kubota mower right now. Not sure on the cost, with a slip clutch it is likely in the ~$2500 range. I have a Kubota 4600 and he has a smaller Kioti that is ~30HP...

I run a 48" brush hog/rotary cutter on my Kubota B2601. In heavy pasture cutting, it generally does OK in low gear but, occasionally it will bog down. Heavy cover taller than the hood has been cut but, it is slow going and will leave a rough finish due to dull blades and material filling the...

My local sources were really high so, I went with Agrisupply and I'm real happy with the PTO shaft they delivered which was made in the EU. It was <$200 delivered at least $100 cheaper than local options, some of which were pushing $400! :eek: A 10% or even 20% markup will generally keep me...

Wallenstein is where I would go for a chipper. I used one my L4600 for 3 days and ended up with a chip pile about 8'x8'x20'. That thing was a beast on the fallen limbs after a winter ice storm.

Awesome! I'll try to make my next grocery trip to Walmart in Mineola this coming weekend! I sent a DM. (y)

Wicked XTreme Tractor Land Leveler V2.0 - Land Plane With Scarifier Shanks or Land Shark 5.1 Compact Land Leveler? I currently have a B2601 and L4600. I will be upgrading my L4600 to something like an M5-111 or MF4707 if they ever come back in stock. Will a B2601 pull a Wicked Extreme 5' or...

I have a little bit of a love/hate relationship with TSC. Most of their stuff is pretty high priced where I live and, as mentioned a lot of it is pretty low-quality Chinese cr@p. Occasionally I catch stuff on sale that is priced reasonably and is a brand name with quality. Some of their oil...

My local TSC store was $170 MORE than a factory LandPride replacement. At this moment, I can get a factory LandPride with shear pins or the Eurocardan with a slip clutch both for significantly less. The Eurocardan from Agri Supply and the LandPride are both basically the same price and would...

Agri Supply - Eurocarden https://www.eurocardan.it/eng/full-made-in-italy-as-done-by-eurocardan.asp

Agri-Supply on the east coast is where I'm looking right now. They have a good option with a slip clutch for ~$300 shipped which seems like the best option for me. I just need to follow up locally make sure I'm not overlooking a local dealer first.

A $100 PTO shaft on a $16,000 tractor with a ~$3,000 mower to me sounds like a bad idea. The risk of doing more than $200 in damage is high not to mention trying to find bearings and similar stuff I will need to maintain it over time.

Tractor Supply was $470 tax-free for a PTO shaft for me! :eek:

I bought a used LandPride finish 3-point mower and need a PTO shaft for it. Raised, it is 34" from gearbox shaft end to end, and lowered it is 35". I'm assuming I will need to cut anything I buy. Where will I find a reasonable quality PTO shaft that isn't ~$360? I would like the couplers...

This is in East Texas between I-30 and I-30 so, pretty far South but, we do see some cold weather occasionally. The DEF problems were during hay season, not winter.

I have been down this road. You can easily buy more loader than your tractor can handle. With loaded tires and a 7-foot rototiller on back, I can still raise the rear off the ground with a good bucketful of wet sand. Then there is breaking the front end while traveling slowly with said bucket...

I hope your dealer takes good care of you and your order. My local dealer said he was unable to order new M5's until February or March next year with expected deliveries in early 2023 due to various logistical problems causing shutdowns to production. Based on feedback from local farmers and...

Isn't LS rebranded New Holland?

Massey has a strong French influence as well. And they, like New Holland, are part of the modern world of global outsourcing and corporate mergers. Heck, look at John Deere and their Mexican and German farm tractors and rebranded Japanese options as an example of an American brand with similar...

Sounds like John Deere to me as well. They are good tractors but, there are a lot of niggles that need attention over time. I attribute this first to all the emissions stuff forced onto modern tractors which is further compounded by all the electronic gadgets which have their place for some but...

I would love to own one but, the price of admission is too steep for me today.

If the $20K premium got me into one of the German John Deeres, I could see it being a viable consideration. For a more economy-minded basic Mexican tractor, paying almost a 1/3 more for a green tractor from the local "big box" corporate chain that owns the JD dealerships makes New Holland look...

I'm thinking 90HP on the PTO is plenty. I have run a 135HP and a 150HP John Deere a lot and, while they worked fine, I felt like they were a bit of overkill on the Vermeer baler I ran. Those tractors though saw a lot of field use so hooked up to a disc or huge field cultivator made them a good...

Why? What is it about New Hollands that causes you to avoid them?

I have always had a bit of a soft spot for Massey tractors even though I grew up on green equipment. Those old Perkins engines were legendary too! With corporate buyouts and mergers, and exclusive dealership agreements, Massey totally left this part of the world. I'm still tempted to replace...

The German John Deere and Fendt options are certainly awesome tractors. If I was into precision agriculture, I could see one of those being a good investment. The reality though is the price tag is so high I can't see one on my property anytime soon and, the added features and functionality...

I think I want more tractor weight in the frame and major drive components for a better longterm ownership experience. Loader work with heavy bales up high or a baler in bad field conditions can really beat on a smaller tractor. That's the main reason I ruled out an M4. Sure, the extra PTO HP...

It really depends on rainfall and other weather factors. The nominal volume is probably around 100/year but, can be as few as 60 or occasionally a lot more if the weather is good.

I finally have the money to buy my tractor but, it has gone up $8K and does NOT INCLUDE an 11% steel premium from Kubota. I apparently can't order until Feb/March of next year and the earliest delivery date would be Jan 2023! The price today if I could order would be $72K plus 11% for the...

:ROFLMAO: Nice!

With Texas electricity costing (price capped) $9,000/KWHr :eek: and Natural gas going from $10 to $1,000 per 1,000 cubic feet :eek: IF you were still connected to the electric or natural gas network, the cost of a "Generac" whole house system doesn't seem so significant right now. That is not...

I have a more detailed post in the general forum looking for comparisons of an MF4707 against an M5. I don't know anyone who actually owns or uses a Kubota M5 so, this is a bit of a blind potential purchase for me. I need enough tractor weight for good ground engagement and occasional heavy...

I'm looking at loaders for a 70~90Hp tractor. Different strong opinions suggest one is drastically better than the other? I see Euro loaders being more frequently found on big tractors and large buckets. I assume this is an artifact of the bucket widths more than anything. Is the Euro bucket...

A few non-specific thoughts: John Deere and Kubota dealer support are much better than other options I have sandy and wet loose land to work traction in that ground is important 70Hp is a low as I want to go but, PTO Hp doesn't need to be huge either for mowers and balers (nothing over a 12'...

First, in real terms, there is a bit less than $10K price difference depending on the exact Kubota difference. My most expensive option is replacing a tractor that doesn't do what I need it to! ;) I grew up on BIG JD iron (~150Hp) and currently own a Kubota B2601 and L4600. I'm finding the...

My friend has a Kioti tractor he is going to upgrade and I'm on the fence about keeping my Kubota L4600 with a pending purchase of a MF4707. Local salesmen have recommended Facebook Marketplace but, their help forum doesn't really discuss something of significant value like this and is really...

I'm looking at an open station MF4707 with an FL3615 loader. Is a downward/forward exhaust a good option? My initial thoughts are biased by my more recent years of experience on the Kubota L4600 with its exhaust down low by the nose of the tractor. I have been unable to find any pictures...

I have a friend looking for a nominal 60hp tractor for general farm use. He has a over 100 acres of timber and maintains trails (wide enough for a pickup), ponds, dams, and other similar things with a chipper, rotary mower, and similar implements. He doesn't want something as heavy as a Massey...

I have been seriously shopping the MF4707 but, I think a 57xx for about a $7K 'upcharge' for a similar tractor may be a better choice for me. Massey's website is to say the least, a bit tedious fleshing out differences. Perhaps I missed a good YouTube video but, the one comparing the 4710 to...

I'm looking for a "good" tractor in the 70+hp range with a really strong loader and 3-pt. I grew up on ~150hp John Deere tractors and currently own a Kubota B2601 (love it) and a Kubota L4600 two wheel geared model (worked well in Oklahoma but, sucks here in Texas). I require 4 wheel drive...

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How does a Woods RC4 compare to a similar LandPride orange 'bush hog'? Or, what rotary mower - bush hog - shredder do you recommend for a B2601 and what is a reasonable 'street cost' for it? LandPride for me is $1620 with an unknown delivery date and a Woods RC4 is $1200 and two weeks as...

I'm looking for a new tractor in the 70hp~100hp range. I am not PTO HP limited, I am ground engagement and loader limited. I grew up on John Deere and I'm currently surrounded by a single source John Deere dealer network and one big tractor Kubota dealership with several more within a...

I see a lot of mixed comments on 6010 electrodes with DC Inverter welders. I don't understand why I would want to use 6010 over say 6011 and why it seems to be such a controversial topic. Is the Hobart Stickmate 210i compatible with 6010? Why would I want to use it over 6011? TIA, Sid

If you wanted a good grease gun, one that will work with tough zerks that put up a bit of struggle, what would you get? I need one with a fixed neck and a long handle (no pistol grips). I have tried the cheaper options from all the local places, Atwoods, Harbor Freight, WalMart, TSC, etc. I...

Hydraulic Shift Kit for Caroni Flail Mower | Agri Supply 68318 Flail Mower, Rear Flail Mower TM19 | Caroni 3837 Today I own a Kubota L4600 which is ~45Hp to the PTO. I am looking to get a good quality flail that isn't excessively expensive and see a lot of favorable comments about the...

I have used an older cabbed RTV. I found it be slow, like tractor slow. It was a solid rear axle (might have had leaf springs) and too little ground clearance. I was thinking about the Kawasaki Yanmar engine model or one of the Cherry motored gas units but, it looks like the new generation...