#1 Reason I love IR Cameras

[Taylortractornut]

My older brother was in his trailer when he was getting ready to move into his house and heard a gunshot came back and there was a picture frame laying on the couch that had fallen off the wall and some paneling fragments on the couch to he looked around and saw a hole in the wall. Turned out that a hunter was across the road and on his club land and the deer crossed the road onto private land. He shot 2 times,my brothers trialer was loaer that the road so and the deer was in a state aid road. All that came through was a fragmentthat knocked off the picture but stil l that was bad enough. I dont think deer are that elusive of a critter to go ape ove them.
A friend of mine had a large tan Kiko nubian goat mix that was a buck skin color a pretty goat and it was shot dead one morning by a tresspassing hunter while his grandkids were 40 yards on the other side plying in the same field. The hunter said it was a mistake he thought it was a deer and that the kids werent in any danger as he was an excelent marksman. I have a brown canvas barn coat I dont wear because Im afraid of deer fever.

 

[john_bud]

The way you feel with that brown coat is how we feel wearing blaze orange with those trespassers around!

Why is it the nut jobs are the ones that are also trespassers, hooligans, scofflaws and miscreants?

 

[Redbug]

JohnBud and Taylor...how long is your deer season? In the northern states like Wisconsin and Minnesota and surrounding states isn't it only about 2 weeks? Mississippi maybe a month long? Just wondering.

 

[Wayne County Hose]

JohnBud and Taylor...how long is your deer season? In the northern states like Wisconsin and Minnesota and surrounding states isn't it only about 2 weeks? Mississippi maybe a month long? Just wondering.

To the people they are dealing with, deer season never ends.

 

[EddieWalker]

Rifle deer season in my part of Texas is two months long. Archery season adds another month to how long you can legally hunt deer. Depending on where you hunt, you can shoot five deer a year, not counting exotics. Wild hogs are open year round as are varmints.

We have allot of problems with people who still shoot deer year round and who will shoot anything that moves. It's sad because it doesn't take long for the constant pressure of year round poaching to affect the total population in an area. I believe that is what was going on with my land before I bought it. After five years of no hunting, or at least, no killing of any deer, the population is increasing. My neighbor is on the same page as I am, and very excited about the results. We're still not seeing any trophy bucks, but their are some smaller ones running around, and if we let them mature, we'll just increase the overall numbers and health of the heard. We're also taking out as many coyotes as possible to improve our fawn numbers. But it all comes back to keeping the poachers out and protecting the animals.

Eddie

 

[Taylortractornut]

I think its October 1st to the end of January counting primitive, dog and gun. With the limit of 3 bucks and 3 does per season. Ive know people to get that many a day.. Really they are over populated here. Lots of inbred and deformed deer here to. I know some folks that have brought in deer from other parts of the states and introduced them.
My new neighbor complains about dogs scring off his deer, I told him I didnt see any brands on his deer. Its funny theyll usually walk within 2 feet of my dog pen. Dept. of wildlife says we have 2 million. They didnt count all of them lol.
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[john_bud]

JohnBud and Taylor...how long is your deer season? In the northern states like Wisconsin and Minnesota and surrounding states isn't it only about 2 weeks? Mississippi maybe a month long? Just wondering.

The DNR have it pretty much gaboogled up, but starting the first Saturday on or after 9/15 bow season begins. Then in late October there is a Doe Only gun hunt that totally drives the rutting bucks nocturnal. Then there is general deer gun season the Saturday before Thanksgiving lasting until the Sunday after Thanksgiving. Then Black poweder opens the following Monday and runs until Wednesday a week later. Then it goes back to Bow season.

There are some special youth hunts thrown in to mess you up too. Then there are zones for Earn A buck where you have to shoot a doe first before a buck and there are zones where you get bonus doe tags, and some where you don't.

This year a bow and gun tag gives the opportunity to shoot 2 bucks and 3 does. I took 2 antlerless.




Ahem [soapbox/] mode

My opinion is that the DNR should make all tags Doe/Antlerless for the normal fee. Then a Second fee for immature bucks 7 points and under (under 14" spread) equal to twice the normal fee. Then a different fee for mature bucks over 8 points or (14" spread and over) equal to the normal fee. If they want to cull more does, they could include several doe ear tags with the licsence. They could also have 2 doe's tagged this season or last is equal to the 8 point buck fee and 4 does tagged is equal to the immature buck fee. That would let economic pressures guide hunters to bring the deer population into a better buck/doe balance. It also would keep the overanxious hunter from becoming a criminal when they pop that trophy buck before getting a doe.

End [/soapbox]

 

[Tororider]

JB I agree with you about the not being able to shoot juvenile bucks. I wish Michigan had an earn-a-buck program. Near our property people seem to shoot anything that moves. Since my dad and are aren't about to shoot a year and a half old deer we haven't gotten one in awhile. Its a bummer when your neighbors don't want to practice qdm.

In Michigan, bow season is from Oct 1 through Jan 1. Shotgun or rifle depending on what part of the state you are hunting is from Nov 15-Nov 30. Then there is black powder in parts of December.

 

[kthompson]

John Bud, if you are faced with people who are going to require the legal system punish them try to find out all laws they may be breaking and what you might be able to do to help build a better case or move a case up in the felony category. (posted signs might make it diffrent or gate that is locked being cut open or such.) You should talk with your State DNR and not up on hunting laws but doubt Federal Laws come into with deer unless they are in a Federal Gun Law violation. The further up the seriousness of the case is, I would think the less likely it would get tossed by a friendly judge or such.

I really do hope all works out well. From comments made it would seem there could be great risk to your property at least. If they will not listen to civil conversation would do my best to have the law handle as much of this as possible. Even it it meant buying a cell phone that was not easy to track to call them and report illegal hunting at the location with out giving my name.

 

[foggy1111]

I am an absentee land owner as well. I purchased a moultrie camera at Wal Mart this fall. Was fun to get a few pics of the deer and coyotes crossing the lens......as well as my neighbor's kid riding his 4 wheeler around our posted land. I am sure he saw the camera and he has not been back since.

But....he also has several dogs running wild at times. I hope to get some pics of his dogs and mail them to him along with a letter asking him to pen up his dogs. If he doesnt get those dogs under control very soon.....hmmmm....then were gonna have a little problem.

I also need to get some gates up this year....but dont have a major people problem.....those dogs on the other hand are gonna have to go.

If done correctly.....the game cameras and sending copies of pics to the offending neighbors or dogs may be a way to get your point across without burning bridges or starting a war.