10’ snow pusher

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Anyone using a 10 footer on their tractor?
If so, what is the machine and where you are would be helpful to gage type of snow.

 

[Rustyiron]

102" pusher here (18" short of 10') on a 5 ton SS and chains on each corner.
So much depends on snow consistency and your use. That "use" would be commercially clearing a parking lots continuously after a certain depth or accumulation or a more residential, end of snow clearing.
Obviously it's better to "plow with the storm" as Fisher plows old saying said, but I find most snows here of any respectable depths (18-20") are usually a dry consistency and plow/push easily with the above machine.
Weight, inertia and traction, are your friends with a pusher box particularly with longer parking lot runs.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Mine is a snow blade, its a 8', I am in Northern Ontario Canada it is quick connect and has hydraulic angles (tilt)... I have a 60hp tractor @ 3 to 4000 lbs with loaded rear tires and snow blower in the back and to effectively use the tilt in heavy snow I would need snow chains on all 4 but straight its pretty good still pretty heavy since its so extended up front.

 

[Hay Dude]

Anyone using a 10 footer on their tractor?

I am, yes.

If so, what is the machine and where you are would be helpful to gage type of snow.

Massey Ferguson 7495
Pennsylvania

I fabbed-up a Western Heavyweight from a large dump truck to work off my front 3-point hitch.

Added a crossover relief valve.

 

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102" here (18" short of 10') on a 5 ton SS and chains on each corner.
So much depends on snow consistency and your use. That "use" would be commercially clearing a parking lots continuously after a certain depth or accumulation or a more residential, end of snow clearing.
Obviously it's better to "plow with the storm" as Fisher plows old saying said, but I find most snows here of any respectable depths (18-20") are usually a dry consistency and plow/push easily with the above machine.
Weight, inertia and traction, are your friends with a pusher box particularly with longer parking lot runs.

Thanks Rusty
Have a customer who wants to do commercial work and has asked if the Mahindra 6065 ( largest we carry) will push a 10 foot. This tractor is around three ton dry and I can get it up to around five ton with fel and loaded tires.
We get storms of the slushy type and to me, 8” of slush type is equal to 24” of dry.
I have no experience with pushers more than 7’ hence my reach out to the more experienced.

 

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I am, yes.


Massey Ferguson 7495
Pennsylvania

I fabbed-up a Western Heavyweight from a large dump truck to work off my front 3-point hitch.

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Added a crossover relief valve.

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Thanks Dude
A blade I figured was a can do for the tractor mentioned.
A pusher is another matter being a snow gatherer rather than a snow roller.
Not sure I carry a big enough tractor to sell to my customer.

 

[Rustyiron]

See what your customers contractual conditions are.
I think that much of the commercial work in today's litigious society, commercial customers are requiring constant operations. Once a predetermined depth or other requirement is met and plowing operations commence with xx equipment operating continuously until some other (contractual) condition is satisfied.
In English , he might have to scrape every 2,3-4" and 10" of sloppy wet snow is not a concern. Then there's always taking less than full passes.

 

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See what your customers contractual conditions are.
I think that much of the commercial work in today's litigious society, commercial customers are requiring constant operations. Once a predetermined depth or other requirement is met and plowing operations commence with xx equipment operating continuously until some other (contractual) condition is satisfied.
In English , he might have to scrape every 2,3-4" and 10" of sloppy wet snow is not a concern. Then there's always taking less than full passes.

This leans to more of “if there’s a will, there’s a way”.
Got me thinking in a different direction so thanks for that Rusty.
10’ is a lot of load collected so naturally my thoughts went to dimensional capacity coupled with volume of snow and type and figuring weight of tractor in the equation.
That doesn’t always necessarily hold water..or in this case snow.
If we had tractors the size of Hay Dudes, all I would need is to figure is cost of the tractor.

 

[Hay Dude]

I have been watching tractors of all sizes and frequently see 100+ HP tractors sell for less than new pint-sized 35HP compact tractors.
I would encourage any TBN member looking to push snow or mow fields to look at older and bigger AGCO, NH, Deere models which will dwarf the little compacts guys spend $40,000 on.
I passed up on a 15,000LB Challenger MT545B (140HP) with a CVT transmission and loader. It was in nice condition had 5,000 hours on it, lots of great features and sold for $42,000.
I should have bought it.

Here’s a great example of what I am saying. 110 HP, Cab HVAC, great tires, low hours. Asking $28,500. Probably sell for 25K. You could start a field mowing and snow plowing business with that tractor.

 

[nybirdman]

What's going on is that 80-120 H.P. tractors are too small for large farm operations and too big for the average small acreage/home owner type.

 

[leonz]

If you are intent on pushing that much snow and if you end up with
huge ocean fed dumps of the white mold, a rear mounted 8 foot
Pronovost TRC 2 stage snow blower with the rotating impeller drum
to discharge heavy wet snows left or right avoiding the chute and spout.

Short of that a pronovost PXPL 8 foot snow blower or an TRC 2 stage with
some used iron like a Massey Ferguson 175, 185 or 1100 would work
as the gear drive shuttle shift will not lose power.

 

[Rockbadchild]

What's going on is that 80-120 H.P. tractors are too small for large farm operations and too big for the average small acreage/home owner type.

I would agree with that, my 60hp is ''too small'' for some of my application but perfect for my trails maintenance and bush work so if I would get a 80 to 100hp tractor I would have to keep my 60hp tractor or get a smaller one since it would be too big and heavy for my bush work.

 

[Hay Dude]

What's going on is that 80-120 H.P. tractors are too small for large farm operations and too big for the average small acreage/home owner type.

Actually, I think what’s going on here is the OP is asking about 10’ snow pushers/plows, right?
So isn’t it practical to suggest the right tractor with the right HP and weight that can handle a plow that size behind it?

A 35HP compact sure as heck isn’t going to work…

And the 110 HP tractor I suggested would be just right, and quite a bit cheaper, and more capable.

I have pushed snow with my 200HP Massey and a 10’ plow and I can tell you that if the snow is deep or heavy, 100HP is about what he would want.

 

[Hay Dude]

I would agree with that, my 60hp is ''too small'' for some of my application but perfect for my trails maintenance and bush work so if I would get a 80 to 100hp tractor I would have to keep my 60hp tractor or get a smaller one since it would be too big and heavy for my bush work.

I used to think that way, too.
I had a 70HP Kubota M-7040.

Then I went to a 125HP Kubota M-126X.

The M-126X is about a foot taller and a foot wider, but after about 10 minutes I was so happy I made that decision. It did everything better. Even “bush work”.
The “big tractor” fear was gone, instantly

 

[Rockbadchild]

I used to think that way, too.
I had a 70HP Kubota M-7040.

Then I went to a 125HP Kubota M-126X.

The M-126X is about a foot taller and a foot wider, but after about 10 minutes I was so happy I made that decision. It did everything better. Even “bush work”.
The “big tractor” fear was gone, instantly

yeah a foot wider would be a problem as well as if it’s longer but i could always make my trails wider and straighter … but my main concern would be weight i have a few soft spots and i hate ruts.

 

[Orange is choice]

I have a Kubota HST60 with a 3 point 72" snowblower on back and a 10' snow pusher on front I use it on my farm in northern Minnesota and can move a lot of snow, with out chains or ballast.

 

[Rustyiron]

I have a feeling that your very northern snows are quite different (more than not) than RI, a very coastal state where the sea waters provide some warming making a sloppy mess vs a dryer snow.

 

[leonz]

Hello Rustyiron,

That is why I suggested the Pronovost TRC 2 stage snowblower to him.

 

[Fxfymn413]

I use a 9' plow on my 4060 and it works just fine, but I never wait for the storm to end before I plow. 4 to 6 inches on the ground is my benchmark for when I need to hit it.

So really the question is does the owner expect to move all of the snow that falls in one swoop or does he plan on keeping up with it? All at one time with a pusher; start looking for a full sized wheel loader.

And there is a major difference between a plow that sheds the snow as it moves and a pusher that gathers the snow. I'd say the required HP and weight for a pusher is significantly higher than that needed for a plow.

 

[Rustyiron]

Hello Rustyiron,

That is why I suggested the Pronovost TRC 2 stage snowblower to him.

I was trying to respond to the original pusher box/tractor size question from @arrow .