110 TLB Hydraulic PHD

GreatWhitehunter · Nov 30, 2015

I know this has been discussed in the past but I'm hoping to revive the subject.
I'm in need of a PHD for some fencing and really would prefer a hydraulic unit. I plan on fabbing a mount and hanging it off the hoe.
I believe the aux ports on the hoe are rated to 16 gpm theoretical. I found a used McMillan unit that requires 15 gpm min. To those of you that have this type of setup, will I be disappointed going this route? Other than being able to reverse rotation, what other benefits will the hydro vs pto option deliver?
Any pics or video's that might sway my decision would be greatly appreciated.

Matt

jenkinsph · Nov 30, 2015

Matt,
I have a PA30 with a bucket quick coupler on my 110. It has worked well for me installing large gates with deep posts and digging for foundation piers for decks. Having the ability to apply down pressure in rocky ground is a real benefit. I had a Deere 31B pto phd prior to getting the hydraulic model, the new planetary hydraulic unit is way easier to position in a clear line of sight for the operator. When you combine a 110 with creep to reposition and the hoe mounted phd it is a great combination imo.

MORRISONSTEEL · Dec 1, 2015

I have seen guys happy with a pa30 performance on 110's and unhappy with performance. The minimum flow per the tech manual is 10 gpm for testing purposes, but in either instances it was still a usable unit. Good luck.

GreatWhitehunter · Dec 1, 2015

I understand the flow issue and even the manufactures list the gpm requirement as theoretical. I believe the 110 has 16 gpm to the rear and 12 to the front.
I'm specifically looking at Mcmillan as there's several near by forsale. Paladin now owns Mcmillan and their customer service has been great with getting me specs and build dates on the units I've been interested. I don't think a pa30 is in my future unless one turns up locally. For the frequency of use I'm not going new in this attachment. Does anyone have any quick attach mount pics they'd like to share? Looking for ideas to fab a mount.

Matt

MORRISONSTEEL · Dec 1, 2015

the pa30 is built by McMillan so if looking at planetary version probably looking at the same thing (or very close to it). It's too bad that they don't make the chain drive version any longer it was pretty darned reasonable in price and other than replacing the occasional chain link worked very good.

jenkinsph · Dec 1, 2015

Here are some pics of a mount I built for Curly Dave a few years ago. I may have the patterns for the side plate if you want them. The last two pictures are of the factory mount,

GreatWhitehunter · Dec 2, 2015

MORRISONSTEEL said:
the pa30 is built by McMillan so if looking at planetary version probably looking at the same thing (or very close to it). It's too bad that they don't make the chain drive version any longer it was pretty darned reasonable in price and other than replacing the occasional chain link worked very good.

There's still chain drive units available but from my reading I was sorta under the impression that planetary was the way to go.

jenkinsph said:
Here are some pics of a mount I built for Curly Dave a few years ago. I may have the patterns for the side plate if you want them. The last two pictures are of the factory mount,

Steve this really helps me visualize the mount! Did you torch cut the QC parts? I've got a steel fab shop 1/2 mile from me. I was going to drop off my root rake with them for the templet and have them fab me up two of the blanks like you made. One I would use for the auger and I was going to have the other setup for a lifting eye. I located another McMillan auger but it's an older model, I ran the serial with Mac and they indicate it's an 89-90. Parts are still available but I'm not sure it's worth the risk as the seller has no means to demo it and it's likely a 8 hr drive to get it.

Matt

Matt

jenkinsph · Dec 2, 2015

Matt,
I used my Victor torch to cut out the parts. I would add I considered the chain drive but felt the planetary drive was a better design for high torque applications. I have had mine for about 5 years now with no problems. The last picture is complete with the cradle mounting.

jenkinsph · Dec 3, 2015

Matt,
I don't see where you would need two mounting brackets, if you pull one pin you can disconnect from the phd and insert a hook in its place,.

GreatWhitehunter · Dec 4, 2015

jenkinsph said:
Matt,
I don't see where you would need two mounting brackets, if you pull one pin you can disconnect from the phd and insert a hook in its place,.

Thanks and a great point I guess it really depends on the cost of the plates. I think I may actually end up with a PA 30 after all. It seems there are a lot of them fairly priced. There a local guy that had a McMillan unit but he has 5 bits and I really don't need more than the one. He also cant seem to get the model number so I can check the flow specs.

Steve, can you actually rest the gear box on the cradle with a bit on it? Any pics of the whole set up on the 110?

Matt