12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with?

   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #1  

ShowroomShine

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Looking at a 12' flex wing cutter, new or used. I'm seeing Ironcraft, Bush Wacker, Land Pride, used Woods, and Rhino on the market for the $10-15K price point. I have Rhino equipment now but from the videos I've seen it looks like it does not distribute the grass as well as the Land Pride. Bush Wacker for the money seems like a solid mower, but not sure about the brand.

What 12' mowers do you have and have had suceess with?
 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #3  
Are you looking for a bush hog or a finish mower? If it's a bush hog, all I can say is that all of the highway grass contractors around here use either Bush Hog brand or Frontier(whatever manufacturer that may be at the time). If those guys are using it I can too. I have a Frontier FM that is a Befco. It's been the best implement I've ever owned. Mine is 21'
 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #4  
I bought a Titan 1912 batwing just over two years ago. Since then, they lost a court case and where forced to change their name to Iron Craft. It has a 5 foot middle deck, and the wings are 4 feet, which gives me 6 inches of overlap. I don't know if that's normal with all 12 foot batwings, but I like how clean it cuts. I also like how nice it follows the contour of the land. It's rated for 2 inch material, but I mostly just cut grass and weeds with it. Some of it can be over the hood of my tractor, and it all looks great after it's been cut.

I'm using a Massey Ferguson 4707 tractor with 70 hp at the engine. I forget what the PTO hp is, but guessing it's around 60hp. Maybe 58hp, that kind of sounds right to me. It has plenty of power. I normally cut at 2.3 mph. Any faster and I'm bouncing around in my seat, and the trees are coming at me faster then I can maneuver around them.

About three weeks ago, one of the gear boxes on the wing blew up on me. I was mowing a grassy area near a big oak tree and I hit some branches. Nothing big, just one inch stuff. It sounded normal enough when I mowed over the branch, but then sound didn't end. Kind of a banging sound. When I looked back to see why it was still making that sound, I realized that the mower wasn't cutting on that side, and there was a bunch of oil on the deck. For whatever reason, the gears came apart and blew out the rear seal of the gear box.

I sent an email to my dealer that Saturday evening, and got a reply Sunday morning. Then a phone call Monday morning. His big concern was if I ran it without oil in it. I didn't. I took pictures, and took off the top of the gear box to see what had happened, and there was still a lot of oil in the gear box. He said that was perfect for a Warrantee Claim. He took care of it and the gear box was there just over two weeks later. They offered to replace it if I brought the mower in, but I didn't want to do that, so I took off the gear box and brought it to them. They gave me the brand new gear box, and I was out the door. No charge, no questions, no paperwork. They just handed it to me. Super easy!!!!

I put it back together and filmed some video of it mowing one of my fields the next day. I don't know why it failed, but I'm very happy with the way they took care of it.

Another thing that I like about it is just the one hydraulic line. I have two remotes, so I could handle two hoses, but just having one hose to deal with just seems easier to me.

I'm still on my original blades. The cut is still good. I own 68 acres, and I'm mowing about a quarter of it 2 to three times a year. My goal is three times, but I get distracted with other projects and there's never enough time to do everything.

I looked at some other brands and felt that most of the 12 foot batwings where all extremely light duty. Then there was a big jump in price for the few heavy duty ones out there, like the Rhino. That seemed to be the strongest one I looked at, but the price was more then I wanted to deal with. I paid $13,000 for mine.

I also thought about how strong it needed to be to maintain the land, compared to the first time it's mowed. After the first cutting, it's just grass after that. No saplings, no big weeds, nothing to really justify a heavy duty cutter.

With the AC in the tractor, I mow in the afternoons when it's too hot to be outdoors. I can get into the tractor, totally worn out and over heated, and cool down while mowing. A couple hours later, when it's time for dinner, I'm relaxed and comfortable when I get back to the house.


 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #5  
Had a Woods BW12, but not for long. Maybe a year and a half. Worst cutter I've ever had...sold it for half of what I paid for it when it still had remaining warranty. Wing hinges were so tight, and had no way to lube them, that the wings wouldn't work half the time. Wasted lots of time cussing that machine. :cautious:
Then I got a Modern Ag 12' Viper. It cuts clean, and has a high blade tip speed, as well as having two of the 3 decks rotate one direction, and the other rotates the opposite direction, giving a cleaner cut. The Mod Ag Predator is the same cutter, but cheaper because all 3 rotate the same direction.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Viper. Even though I don't cut brush with it, I have had the splitter gear box fail, and both wing gear boxes fail, as well as having wing hydraulic cylinders both replaced, one side was replaced twice. I call it my FrankenCutter because so many parts have been replaced.

I attribute the part failures to cheap Chinese chit. Gear boxes and hyd cylinders are all cheap Chinese crap.... But to be fair, ALL rotary cutters in this class have cheap Chinee crap gear boxes and other parts, It's just where we are now. :mad:

When that Viper is running, it cuts great. I run it with a PowerStar 75 New Holland.

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I am in the Ag Service business, as well as having my own ranch where I use all my equipment, and probably put more hours on tractors and cutters than your avg Joe.

Woods, while I'll never have another BW12 cutter, has clearly hit a home run with my Woods BW180XHD... Had that cutter for more than 10 years, and DO cut heavy brush with it. It has exceeded my expectations. It was engineered right, and built right.
 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #6  
Another interesting factoid about 12' cutters is the...

Land Pride RC2512

Titan 1912 and Iron Craft 2512

Modern Ag Predator and Viper 12' cutters

And the older, no longer made Bush Hog 2212 are the same deck and blueprint pattern.

Bush Hog engineered it first, then I reckon the patent ran out, and Land Pride as well as Modern Ag copied the cutter. Only a few miner differences in the 3 cutters. (Probably the most obvious is the galvanized dipped decks on the Modern Ag cutters.
 
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   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #7  
I didn't mention that my Titan/Iron Craft also has the one wing that rotates opposite of the other two. I thought they all did that, but maybe it's only with some brands?

I was cutting with it after work yesterday and got it up to 3mph. To me, that's really moving fast, and not normal at all. It was a really flat, straight area, so I comfortable with that speed. It still cuts great when going that fast, but mostly I was at 2.3 mph, and cutting way too much goat weed. That stuff went from just starting to show up, to being everywhere, and super thick, in just a few weeks!!!!
 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #8  
I didn't mention that my Titan/Iron Craft also has the one wing that rotates opposite of the other two. I thought they all did that, but maybe it's only with some brands?
Not so much the brand but the gear boxes.

The ones that all spin the same way can be converted by changing out that one gear box on the wing to a gearbox that spins the opposite direction.

Be careful buying blades too... LOL.

My dealer told me about a guy who kept complaining about the horrible cut he was getting, and when he brought it in, he'd replaced all the blades with the same blade, and the wing spinning the opposite direction was spinning the dull side of the blade into the cut... :D
 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #9  
It shouldn't be a problem buying the right blades. Iron Craft only seems to sell them through the dealer you bought it from. I could probably go to another dealer, but it doesn't look like I can buy them online.

I just got an email from Messick's with Iron Craft stuff for sale, but when I looked at their website, I couldn't find any parts for Iron Craft attachments. I probably don't need new blades for another couple of years, they are holding up really well. I just like to look online for stuff and find the best place to get them.
 
   / 12' Flex Wing Cutters, what have you had success with? #10  
It shouldn't be a problem buying the right blades. Iron Craft only seems to sell them through the dealer you bought it from. I could probably go to another dealer, but it doesn't look like I can buy them online.

I just got an email from Messick's with Iron Craft stuff for sale, but when I looked at their website, I couldn't find any parts for Iron Craft attachments. I probably don't need new blades for another couple of years, they are holding up really well. I just like to look online for stuff and find the best place to get them.
That guy didn't even know the cutter spun that way. He just bought 4 wing blades and 2 center blades.

I think he's wiser now.
 

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