Solo
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Has anyone priced the 12 LA loaders?
Solo
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12 LA Loaders
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thcri
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Solo,
I believe the 12LA replaces the 7308? New Holland has changed their web site so I can't confirm that. The 12LA came out about two months after I got my 7308 and I did ask the dealer about pricing on them. He told me that all of the new style in each range was about the same price as the old. I paid about $2500.00 for my loader. The 7308 went with the 25, 29 and 33 horsepower tractors.
Hope this helps you.
Murph
I believe the 12LA replaces the 7308? New Holland has changed their web site so I can't confirm that. The 12LA came out about two months after I got my 7308 and I did ask the dealer about pricing on them. He told me that all of the new style in each range was about the same price as the old. I paid about $2500.00 for my loader. The 7308 went with the 25, 29 and 33 horsepower tractors.
Hope this helps you.
Murph
Steelfan
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Hey Guys,
I just got on the NH website, and found the following page. http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/frontend.html.
The 12 LA is for the smaller size Compacts, like my TC21D, and Solo's TC18. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gifI haven't had a need to price them, but I would assume, that they are close in price to what was stated here. The biggest problems are is your TC18 loader ready. I know when I was shopping around the dealer only bought loader ready tractors. I hope your dealer did the same. Also the other expense is installation. I wish that at the time when I bought my tractor the 12 LA loaders were available, but they were not out yet. Anyway good luck, and please let us know how you make out.
Kent
I just got on the NH website, and found the following page. http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/frontend.html.
The 12 LA is for the smaller size Compacts, like my TC21D, and Solo's TC18. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gifI haven't had a need to price them, but I would assume, that they are close in price to what was stated here. The biggest problems are is your TC18 loader ready. I know when I was shopping around the dealer only bought loader ready tractors. I hope your dealer did the same. Also the other expense is installation. I wish that at the time when I bought my tractor the 12 LA loaders were available, but they were not out yet. Anyway good luck, and please let us know how you make out.
Kent
Steelfan
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Hi Solo,
My understanding of Loader-Ready, is the tractor has the joystick on it, and connections for your hoses. Also if I remember right the bracket is in place for the loader hookup. Should look like two arms coming out from the side of front frame. This is where the weight of the loader rests. There may be other things I'm forgetting but these are 2 things to look for. I don't have a good picture of my tractor without the loader, or that would definitely help. The dealer said it silly for him not to get his tractors in Loader-Ready, most people wanted that option. Good Luck, I hope this helps you.
Kent
My understanding of Loader-Ready, is the tractor has the joystick on it, and connections for your hoses. Also if I remember right the bracket is in place for the loader hookup. Should look like two arms coming out from the side of front frame. This is where the weight of the loader rests. There may be other things I'm forgetting but these are 2 things to look for. I don't have a good picture of my tractor without the loader, or that would definitely help. The dealer said it silly for him not to get his tractors in Loader-Ready, most people wanted that option. Good Luck, I hope this helps you.
Kent
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12LA loaders are designed for all TC24s and TC18/21/12D <font color="blue"> AFTER </font> a specified serial number. As far as I know, tractors built prior to that serial number break will need a 7106 loader.
Steelfan
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RickB,
You're probably right about that. The 7106 may have a different setup completely for hookup. My tractor came with the 7106, which was the only one available at the time.
You're probably right about that. The 7106 may have a different setup completely for hookup. My tractor came with the 7106, which was the only one available at the time.
Steelfan
I thought thats what you meant by "loader ready". I did not have all the hydraulics plumbed or the loader mount or anything installed for the loader when I bought it. I also figure I will have to go with the 7106, since my 18 is a 2000 model. Thanks for the info.
Solo
I thought thats what you meant by "loader ready". I did not have all the hydraulics plumbed or the loader mount or anything installed for the loader when I bought it. I also figure I will have to go with the 7106, since my 18 is a 2000 model. Thanks for the info.
Solo
thcri
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Steel,
I can't get the web page you linked to to work. New Holland has changed their web page in the last couple of days. I wasn't sure which tractor fit the new style loaders. The thing that my dealer told me was the newer loaders are about the same price as the previous ones. You are also right about the older tractor's not being able to accept the newer loaders. As far as I know also, the 18 all the way up to the 33 is not loader ready. On my 21 and my 29 we had to install all of the hydraulics and the brackets for the loaders. Once on though, they sure are nice.
Murph
I can't get the web page you linked to to work. New Holland has changed their web page in the last couple of days. I wasn't sure which tractor fit the new style loaders. The thing that my dealer told me was the newer loaders are about the same price as the previous ones. You are also right about the older tractor's not being able to accept the newer loaders. As far as I know also, the 18 all the way up to the 33 is not loader ready. On my 21 and my 29 we had to install all of the hydraulics and the brackets for the loaders. Once on though, they sure are nice.
Murph
Steelfan
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Hi Murph,
I don't understand about the link not working. It doesn't work for me either. I even tried copy\paste and it still didn't work. If I'm not mistaken ,I think they have a 14 LA Loader for the TC25,TC29, & TC33. Someone can corrected me if I'm wrong. I just thought I remembered that number also.
You maybe right about the installation being done at the dealer's shop. I know the only thing he sold were loader-ready tractors. Thanks for the info.
Solo,
You're welcome, I just wanted to warn you a head of time. I can't remember the difference in price to get it or not. My dealer must install them at his shop, and order the kits for all tractors that he sells. Good Luck.
Kent
PS One more time:
http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/frontend.html
I don't understand about the link not working. It doesn't work for me either. I even tried copy\paste and it still didn't work. If I'm not mistaken ,I think they have a 14 LA Loader for the TC25,TC29, & TC33. Someone can corrected me if I'm wrong. I just thought I remembered that number also.
You maybe right about the installation being done at the dealer's shop. I know the only thing he sold were loader-ready tractors. Thanks for the info.
Solo,
You're welcome, I just wanted to warn you a head of time. I can't remember the difference in price to get it or not. My dealer must install them at his shop, and order the kits for all tractors that he sells. Good Luck.
Kent
PS One more time:
http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/frontend.html
thcri
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Steel,,
Try this link Implements
You will find that the 7308 is still the current offering for the 25, 29,33. I don't see a 14LA but they go directly up to the 16LA and 17La which for the 35 and up.
There may be a 14LA that is not posted yet in their web page and only the dealers are aware of it.
Murph
Try this link Implements
You will find that the 7308 is still the current offering for the 25, 29,33. I don't see a 14LA but they go directly up to the 16LA and 17La which for the 35 and up.
There may be a 14LA that is not posted yet in their web page and only the dealers are aware of it.
Murph
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The 14LA is in the works, but not out yet that I am aware of. As stated, it will replace the 7308, and not a moment too soon!
I never liked the 7308, they might better have kept building the 7108's.
I never liked the 7308, they might better have kept building the 7108's.
thcri
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Rick,
What did n't you like about the 7308. I have liked mine so far, but you may have more experience than me.
Murph
What did n't you like about the 7308. I have liked mine so far, but you may have more experience than me.
Murph
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7308 issues
Remember, I work on them, I don't use them. The 7308 is a "bridge" model, designed to sell with the 1720,1920 and the original 'Boomers" , the 25 and 30 series. On certain models and tire/wheel configurations, the loader will not dig below grade with the bucket flat. The original design of midmount latches was unsafe to the point that NH had a campaign or program (can't remember which) to replace the wrenchless latch system with one that was safe but cumbersome to use. The latest design mid latch is a great improvement. The front bracket had to be designed a couple times to get it right. The hooks that engage the loader frame with the front mount get out of adjustment when using heavy downpressure unless the bolts are mega-tight. Just not an impressive piece over the years.
Remember, I work on them, I don't use them. The 7308 is a "bridge" model, designed to sell with the 1720,1920 and the original 'Boomers" , the 25 and 30 series. On certain models and tire/wheel configurations, the loader will not dig below grade with the bucket flat. The original design of midmount latches was unsafe to the point that NH had a campaign or program (can't remember which) to replace the wrenchless latch system with one that was safe but cumbersome to use. The latest design mid latch is a great improvement. The front bracket had to be designed a couple times to get it right. The hooks that engage the loader frame with the front mount get out of adjustment when using heavy downpressure unless the bolts are mega-tight. Just not an impressive piece over the years.
thcri
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RickB,
Them front hooks on mine always came loose. I even put a 30" bar on my wrench to tighten them. And they still came loose. I took them in to the dealer and asked them why would I ever have to loosen them again, they told me no reason. I told them to get the welder out and weld them in place.
As far as the wrenchless latch system mine is very easy to use. My loader is only 9 months old so can I assume I have one of the better ones?
The picture attached shows the weld job. Not my weld job, the dealers but it should work and if we have to we should be able to grind it off to take apart again. I hope anyway.
Murph
Them front hooks on mine always came loose. I even put a 30" bar on my wrench to tighten them. And they still came loose. I took them in to the dealer and asked them why would I ever have to loosen them again, they told me no reason. I told them to get the welder out and weld them in place.
As far as the wrenchless latch system mine is very easy to use. My loader is only 9 months old so can I assume I have one of the better ones?
The picture attached shows the weld job. Not my weld job, the dealers but it should work and if we have to we should be able to grind it off to take apart again. I hope anyway.
Murph
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bher
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My dealer did the exact same welding on my 7308 loader. It was done without any intervention from me before the tractor was delivered. I always wondered why, and now I know. This is another of the many advantages of a good dealer.
cstocks
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I wasn't aware there was a problem with the bolts working loose and have never noticed mine being loose. I will check out my tractor and loader tomorrow to make sure the bolts are still tight. Not good to find this out a year and a half after the fact! Thanks for the heads up!
thcri
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Chris,
Actuallly my bolts never came loose. The little hooks for some reason would move forward and then the loader would jump above the bars. I even tightened mine with a 30" bar and still could not stop the hooks from moving forward. I just finally had them welded in place. If you don't do any uplifting you should be ok. I use my loader to lift the tractor off the ground to get the mower on and off. This is where I have the most trouble with it.
Murph
Actuallly my bolts never came loose. The little hooks for some reason would move forward and then the loader would jump above the bars. I even tightened mine with a 30" bar and still could not stop the hooks from moving forward. I just finally had them welded in place. If you don't do any uplifting you should be ok. I use my loader to lift the tractor off the ground to get the mower on and off. This is where I have the most trouble with it.
Murph
