1430 - How Many Hours

[bbabineau]

If you own a PT 1430, how many hours do you have on it? What is the most anyone has?

Just a brief comment on longevity. My 1430 has a bit over 150 hours and is running strong. I don't doubt the longevity of the Deutz engine. I have a friend who has a 45 HP Deutz in a stump grinder. That machine is a beast and he runs it as much as 20 to 30 hours a week. He has over 6ooo hours on the meter and has never as much as had a hickup from it.

Bob

 

[BobRip]

Just a brief comment on longevity. My 1430 has a bit over 150 hours and is running strong. I don't doubt the longevity of the Deutz engine. I have a friend who has a 45 HP Deutz in a stump grinder. That machine is a beast and he runs it as much as 20 to 30 hours a week. He has over 6ooo hours on the meter and has never as much as had a hickup from it.

Bob

Well shut my mouth. That's real proof.

 

[DonStillwagon]

Have slowed down a little after getting all the infrastructure in here (trenches, rock walls, road extensions and widening, etc). Currently coming up on 1300 hours, and no change in engine performance. (new in Aug '02)
Really have a lot of fun when doing volunteer work - the PT will fit almost anywhere and will work circles around regular machines in tight areas with a lot of obstacles, and that observation is still true after widening the stance to 58" by extending the wheel motor boxes out - decided to keep the track within the width of the brush cutter and the LM bucket. Much more stable on slopes and when working on rough ground.

 

[woodlandfarms]

You got pictures of the wheel mod don? I have the funny feeling you have many many more so time to contribute ;-)

 

[BobRip]

I sometimes us my PT for short periods, like 30 minutes. Is this going to impact the life of a diesel?

 

[RegL]

I'm approaching 1000 hrs on my 1430. When I'm running it for hire it will be running from 2 to 8 hours at a time. At home, I would say most jobs take less than 30 min.. Hey! if I have something heavy to move, I will crank it up for one or two min..I don't think it's a problem. Would it be any different than driving your diesel truck for a couple minutes? Of course, I could be thinking this way because my subconscious is thinking about the 47hp 2011 engine that looks like it would fit with not much problem.

 

[ponytug]

Dear Bob,

Short answer, yes, but this is true for all engines. Slightly longer answer, diesel engines in general, and Deutz engines in particular, are built like tanks, and 30 minutes is more than long enough to get the oil warm, and the engine stabilized. Deutz engines have extra oil passages around the base of each cylinder to help warm it up, and keep the dimensions stable as the engine goes from cold to warm. So, the engine design is trying to help. (It also reduces emissions and noise.)

That said, an engine will last the longest under constant load (less than 80%), at constant temperature, with a single weight oil, changed regularly. In an ideal world, there would be a clutch between the engine and the hydraulic pumps, so the engine could start without a load on it.

Startup causes (relatively speaking) a lot of wear, since the oil is not yet pumped up into the engine's upper reaches. The vertical location of the Deutz filters helps retain all of the oil in the filter, but the upper galleries can still lose oil. You can install accumulators that will pre-pressurize the oil system, if you are really concerned. There are also additives that help with this, but you may notice that UPS and FedEx don't use either of them and get lots of miles on their trucks. You want the engine to get warm enough to drive out any water that may have condensed in the oil.

(Recently, I noticed changing my oil that the Deutz oil filter had a little rust on the spring inside the oil filter. I've never used a pressure washer on the engine. Hmmm.)

I never move my PT until after the oil pressure has come up and stabilized, and until the oil is warm, I never run the engine speed way up. I like my PT, and I want to have it around for a long time.

But for thirty minutes, I wouldn't even consider worrying about it. If I was considering using the PT only for 2 minutes at a time, I would accelerate the oil change.

I hope that this helps.

All the best,

Peter

I sometimes us(e) my PT for short periods, like 30 minutes. Is this going to impact the life of a diesel?

 

[BobRip]

That is very helpful. Thanks.

Dear Bob,

Short answer, yes, but this is true for all engines. Slightly longer answer, diesel engines in general, and Deutz engines in particular, are built like tanks, and 30 minutes is more than long enough to get the oil warm, and the engine stabilized. Deutz engines have extra oil passages around the base of each cylinder to help warm it up, and keep the dimensions stable as the engine goes from cold to warm. So, the engine design is trying to help. (It also reduces emissions and noise.)

That said, an engine will last the longest under constant load (less than 80%), at constant temperature, with a single weight oil, changed regularly. In an ideal world, there would be a clutch between the engine and the hydraulic pumps, so the engine could start without a load on it.

Startup causes (relatively speaking) a lot of wear, since the oil is not yet pumped up into the engine's upper reaches. The vertical location of the Deutz filters helps retain all of the oil in the filter, but the upper galleries can still lose oil. You can install accumulators that will pre-pressurize the oil system, if you are really concerned. There are also additives that help with this, but you may notice that UPS and FedEx don't use either of them and get lots of miles on their trucks. You want the engine to get warm enough to drive out any water that may have condensed in the oil.

(Recently, I noticed changing my oil that the Deutz oil filter had a little rust on the spring inside the oil filter. I've never used a pressure washer on the engine. Hmmm.)

I never move my PT until after the oil pressure has come up and stabilized, and until the oil is warm, I never run the engine speed way up. I like my PT, and I want to have it around for a long time.

But for thirty minutes, I wouldn't even consider worrying about it. If I was considering using the PT only for 2 minutes at a time, I would accelerate the oil change.

I hope that this helps.

All the best,

Peter