1725 takes a while to start

   / 1725 takes a while to start #41  
It always cranks for a bit even if I just shut it down.
I would consider that wrong. I would probably be calling my dealer and making them pick it up for service.
 
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I would consider that wrong. I would probably be calling my dealer and making them pick it up for service.
I think I’ll send him the video and see what he says.
 
   / 1725 takes a while to start #43  
I would consider that wrong. I would probably be calling my dealer and making them pick it up for service.
Not always the best thing to do. Could end up with a hefty bill if it's not warranty related. It could just "be that way".

I think I’ll send him the video and see what he says.


30 hours on the tractor now, are you planning to have the dealer do the 50hour service? If it's still under warranty at the service get them to check the cranking. Skeletor has pretty well excluded the glow plugs, so stop using them for the warmer weather, run a couple more tanks of diesel through the tractor. Clean out the air filter. As long as it starts I doubt the dealer will perceive an issue.
 
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Not always the best thing to do. Could end up with a hefty bill if it's not warranty related. It could just "be that way".




30 hours on the tractor now, are you planning to have the dealer do the 50hour service? If it's still under warranty at the service get them to check the cranking. Skeletor has pretty well excluded the glow plugs, so stop using them for the warmer weather, run a couple more tanks of diesel through the tractor. Clean out the air filter. As long as it starts I doubt the dealer will perceive an issue.
I don’t pay anyone to do anything lol. I do everything I possibly can myself. I consider myself pretty handy. I’ve built engines, done pretty much everything on a car. Went to school for welding, fabrication and machine shop. I know enough about electrical to be dangerous haha. I like a challenge and like to learn new things. I’m not too worried about the 50 hour service
 
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   / 1725 takes a while to start #45  
The 50hr service is ONLY.... engine oil and oil filter, plus check for loose hardware, no sweat
 
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I don’t pay anyone to do anything lol. I do everything I possibly can myself. I consider myself pretty handy. I’ve built engines, done pretty much everything on a car. Went to school for welding, fabrication and machine shop. I know enough about electrical to be dangerous haha. I like a challenge and like to learn new things. I’m not too worried about the 50 hour service
That being said,and with myself in the “same boat” re: mechanical know how

l would still take it to the Dealer for 50 hr svc to not chance voiding the warranty.

Besides, can’t cost >$2/300.

Not only that, it lets Dlr confirm / notate any potential warranty issue.
 
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all the dealer said was it seems normal to me. I’ll show the tech and get back to you. I’m guessing I won’t hear from him.
 
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#48  
Here’s a video I took today with a shorter glow plug cycle just for comparison. Dosent seem much different.

 
   / 1725 takes a while to start #49  
Here’s a video I took today with a shorter glow plug cycle just for comparison. Dosent seem much different.

As I said in post #33 the starting seems normal to me IF THERE WERE NO GLOW PLUG ACTION in very warm weather. However as I understand it you think you applied the glow plugs longer before and less than that in this post #48 video. I just don't see much difference in cranking time. I assume you had the engine either COLD or at least not very recently run in both cases (otherwise the comparison would not be valid.) If all that is true then I doubt that the glow plugs were really getting hot at all in either case. The indicators for how long the glow plugs ran (ticking noise interval, whatever your control mechanism is) may very well be SAYING the glow plugs ran X amount of time but maybe they are not really operating at all. If I were you I'd find a way to check and see if the glow plugs are really operating or not.

I'm too lazy to go look thru all 47 prior posts but did you say that when the engine was good and hot and just turned off for a minute or two that it cranked A) about this same amount as in these 2 video examples? OR B) very short or almost NO cranking before starting & much less cranking than these examples?
 
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keep in mind the first 5 seconds of glow plug activation don't really do much. takes few seconds for them to get hot enough, so if holding for 5 seconds you are not doing anything with glow plugs.
I had the GC1725MB with 130 hours down here yesterday. hot start pretty much the same as what you've been posting. shut off. 5 minutes later takes about 4-5 full rotations to be running.
edit: typed 110 hours not 130 as it should be.
 
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