Buying Advice 1758 Review

   / 1758 Review #31  
The listed shipping weight of this outside wood boiler is just over #1800. As you can see I have borrowed extended forks to slide over my pallet forks and I am lifting from inside the fire box with the forks as far inside as I can go until they bottom out on back of fire box. Lifting from the bottom isn't possible as the sheet metal will crush. Fleet Farm loaded this with a smaller forklift in the same fashion. My tractor will only lift two legs off the trailer. Not even close to be able to move this boiler. Are physics hurting me that much with this attempted lift? Dealer checked loader spec and has it dialed up to the max. What the **** is going on here? Am I expecting too much being a skid steer guy???

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I think you're gonna have to find a way to lift from the bottom, maybe using some wood blocks or something to buffer the contact points. With my loader anyhow, she seems strongest from 1'-3' off the ground.

You ever get the loader spec manual? I've verified lifting roughly 2400 lbs (plus pallet and forks) with mine.
 
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#32  
Dealer ordered another manual they mailed it to an old address and I have yet to see it. So based on the height and distance out with the long forks would you think I could have a #600 handicap? Guess I was always used to lifting stuff so heavy that the machine would teeter limiting the capacity but the loader was never maxed out
 
   / 1758 Review #33  
Dealer ordered another manual they mailed it to an old address and I have yet to see it. So based on the height and distance out with the long forks would you think I could have a #600 handicap? Guess I was always used to lifting stuff so heavy that the machine would teeter limiting the capacity but the loader was never maxed out

Hard to say ... My brain wasn't built with advanced mathematics in mind lol. We still have to remember that the loader is different now, so it's possible that the new model loader isn't as strong as the previous one. Remember, I did find one place that listed the max weight as less than what my loader lists.

regardless, no tractors in this class will offer the lifting strength of a skid steer. Unfortunately. But with that said, I wouldn't really be comfortable lifting any more than I have, stability suffers
 
   / 1758 Review #34  
At the ground, the loader has the best leverage. As the loader is lifted, it typically loses rating.

Can you curl it up?

If not, try using a spacer with some wood on the resting on the forks to lower the loader as much as possible, and then try lifting.
 
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No curl, only able to lift the two legs off the trailer closest to the tractor. As I bring the forks up at the tips to level the load it just runs out of steam
 
   / 1758 Review #36  
No curl, only able to lift the two legs off the trailer closest to the tractor. As I bring the forks up at the tips to level the load it just runs out of steam

Then pick it up from the bottom resting the forks against the round-stock brackets on the inboard side of the legs where you r loader has much better leverage.
 
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#37  
Borrowed this to move the wood stove, rated for #3300 lift, it's a brute.


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   / 1758 Review #38  
My 1643 has a lift rating of 1,300lbs 20" in front of the loader pins. We regularly move big round hay bales (5' dia) that weigh 1,400-1,600lbs with it. Having said that, the loader can't really lift them, we just slide the forks under the bales and curl, then drive over to a small dirt mound and run the forks up it, effectively helping the loader lift the bale. Once the bale is about a foot or two off the ground, we slooooowly drive over to the feeder and drop the bale off.

It seems as though MF loader ratings are quite legit in that they don't overstate capacities. If anything, they understate them.

Anyway, I went from a 1540 with the Powershuttle to this 1643 with HST. I miss the quietness and power of the 'shuttle, but for what we use this tractor for (plowing snow, using the forks to move pallets of wood, brush hogging, loading dirt), the HST seems to be the better choice. I've got about 125 hours on it so far and I'm pleased with it. Never did figure out the rattle noise, though.

Congrats on your 1758, BTW. That loader looks funny. I thought that tractor came with the DL130? What's a DL135?
 
   / 1758 Review #39  
Woblin ... AGCO just switched suppliers for the loaders. Soo Tractor (Radius Steel Fabrication, Sioux City, IA) was the previous supplier. They made your DL120, my DL130, and the rest of the MF, AGCO, CAT Challenger, etc loaders. Now, they are using ALO-Quicke. No one has seen the official specs yet for the new DL135. I had found something that suggested the weight capacity dropped a bit. But, the DL95, which replaced the DL100, is rated for more weight than the 100.

I agree that MF underrates their loaders ... I am continually impressed with mine. Here's some shots from today:



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   / 1758 Review #40  
Woblin ... AGCO just switched suppliers for the loaders. Soo Tractor (Radius Steel Fabrication, Sioux City, IA) was the previous supplier. They made your DL120, my DL130, and the rest of the MF, AGCO, CAT Challenger, etc loaders. Now, they are using ALO-Quicke. No one has seen the official specs yet for the new DL135. I had found something that suggested the weight capacity dropped a bit. But, the DL95, which replaced the DL100, is rated for more weight than the 100.

I agree that MF underrates their loaders ... I am continually impressed with mine. Here's some shots from today:



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I'm digging your color change.
 
 
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