1862 not starting

[riverrunnernky]

Started tractor to load onto trailer for work tomorrow, engine began to stall with choke half out, closing the choke, the engine died and would not restart.

Observed wetness around carb, and a click after each time I tried to crank over the engine. The click seems to be from a device on the firewall, battery side.


I just purchased this machine 2 weeks ago privately.

If I have to take it to a shop how do I load it?
It has hydrostatic drive, and seems to have the brakes engaged, it's hard to roll.

Thank you,

David
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[rcbe]

might be some help in the owners manual (free wheel):

Cub Cadet Collectors dot com • Downloads - 1861 and 1862 Owner's

 

[riverrunnernky]

Thank You!

Great link! However my 1862 does not have the free wheel option on it.

David

might be some help in the owners manual (free wheel):

Cub Cadet Collectors dot com • Downloads - 1861 and 1862 Owner's

 

[rcbe]

yeah, see that now. Bummer. 1861 only.

Using a flat bed trailer w/ramp and a "comealong" to ratchet the machine up onto the trailer comes to mind. Keep total move distance to minimum and ground speed slow-slow-slow... hydro should be able to handle that.
OTW, call local CC dealer and ask them how THEY load one with a dead engine and no hydro release...

 

[OldBulldogger]

Any update on what you found out with your Cub 1862 not starting? I am just curious.

 

[riverrunnernky]

Any update on what you found out with your Cub 1862 not starting? I am just curious.

Hey thanks for the concern,

the float in the carburetor was full of gas....

So it cast me $200. at the local Cadet shop to rebuild it.

It still backfires at times, and can't understand why with all the inspection this unit has had.

 

[rcbe]

are the backfires simply random in nature or do they happen more under certain conditions?

 

[riverrunnernky]

are the backfires simply random in nature or do they happen more under certain conditions?

Back fires when turning off the key. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

I love this machine overall. I'm with PTSD so the back fire messes with me a little, lolol.

 

[Nittany]

This has been printed in some owners manuals, discussed by many cub cadet owners over the years . . . as you get ready to shut down the tractor, allow it to idle at the lowest throttle setting for two or three minutes and then quickly raise the throttle as you turn off the key. Others smarter than me can explain why it works, I just know it does for my 2518 model as well as the other cubs that I use.

 

[OldBulldogger]

I was told it has to do with gas fumes building up in the exhaust after shutdown? Mine does not backfire when I shut it down. It is upon start up.

Here is what I have found - after I have run it for awhile - long enough for the engine to get good and hot, I can shut it down like normal with the key and there is no backfiring. However, if I go to fire it up again right away while it is still hot, then it will backfire as it starts.

Basically it was explained to me by a Cub technician to do the same thing - idle it way down before shutting it off. I was told the carb allows just enough fuel into the cylinder when shutting down to cause the fumes to expand into the exhaust. Upon starting it up again right away with a hot engine, the mix ignites causing it to backfire. I guess this was common enough to have a service bulletin out on it or so I was told.

I have not tried idling way down before shutting off and then a quick rev up as suggested in the previous post. It makes a little sense though as revving up at shutting down would help clear the cylinders. I'd be curious to know what others have heard about this.

 

[rcbe]

Back fires when turning off the key. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

I love this machine overall. I'm with PTSD so the back fire messes with me a little, lolol.

David - most likely yer engine is not equipped with an afterfire solenoid on it's carb - a relatively new feature on most new small engines these days.
It's function is to cut off all fuel flow in the carb's load circuit immediately when you turn off ignition. This prevents a significant amount of unburned fuel/air mixture from being expelled into the exhaust sys during engine spindown- where there are usually some red-hot carbon spots that ignite that mixture causing the bang that none of us really care for.

dropping yer engine to idle for a cuppla minnits before shutting down allows both those exhaust carbon hot spots to cool and to slow engine rpm to where it stops more quickly, minimizing the amount of unburned fuel/air presented to the muffler.

I wus lucky - grew up on a farm with the usual equipment along with a dad reknown for his leather lungs. I very quickly learned to let the tractor and other powered farm devices to idle/cool a bit before turning off - even tho the majority of them were watercooled and much less prone to backfire. Dad had a way of emphasizing such.

 

[riverrunnernky]

Very good ideas to work with.

Bump for more information/experiences with this.

I need a new key switch, I'm going to classifieds now for this one.

Some Cub parts are as high as Deere aren't they?

Light bulbs some $20. ??