1943 2N winch tractor

[RickB]

A fairlead is a device that guides the cable onto the drum. Typically rectangular, typically has 4 fixed rollers that define the shape and size. Google once again can be your friend.

 

[Rustyiron]

I did not rig up the steel and winch. Bought as a non runner. It was used to pull boats out of the Delaware river and move stuff around the boat yard South of Philadelphia pa.

Nice Kirk, it's interesting to see into the past lives of old iron. I'm sure you'll be cautious with that big, er BIG winch on the back. It's big enough to flip any wheeled tractor with a distracted operator. On the bright side, it will happen very slowly with plenty of time to "catch it".

 

[gemutlich]

A fairlead is a device that guides the cable onto the drum. Typically rectangular, typically has 4 fixed rollers that define the shape and size. Google once again can be your friend.

Oh right on. It's a guide to help the cable spool up evenly then. I imagine with a drum that wide the fairlead would sweep from end to end with the cable as it's spooling?

 

[shaeff]

Oh right on. It's a guide to help the cable spool up evenly then. I imagine with a drum that wide the fairlead would sweep from end to end with the cable as it's spooling?

The fairlead is generally as wide as the winch drum, and is fixed to the same anchor point as the winch.

 

[Soundguy]

Rick, it may be that the 3 point is sucked all the way up carrying it. And drops down for pulling. That would move the center of pull down under the axle centerline.

which would mean nothing... if the 3pt was loose, it could pull the tractor over anyway, much like a trailer ball on a 3pt drawbar will lift and over-ride, unless there are stays.

 

[lennyzx11]

which would mean nothing... if the 3pt was loose, it could pull the tractor over anyway, much like a trailer ball on a 3pt drawbar will lift and over-ride, unless there are stays.

Yes. But I had written that if it dropped down. IF the winch was dropped down then the pulling point would be below the axle centerline. Then there wouldn't be a flipover if the angle of pull was down below the centerline. I should have added that in the statement.

You are absolutely correct in that trying to move the tractor or connecting the winch line to SOMETHING above the centerline would allow the tractor front to raise up.

It is a moot point though as we have been told that it is solid mounted in place. The safety part in that case is that front end being chained to an immovable object to prevent rising.

 

[Soundguy]

You still aren't getting it, with the 3pt not being a fixed device, dropping it down under the axle means zilch, nada, as the action of pulling the load can still make the hitch rise and rotate that tractor around its axle. Remember, nothing holds the 3pt down but gravity. Pulling action and a sufficient load will RAISE the 3pt.

Its not a moot point, these posts are archived. We don't want son unsuspecting person reading them down the line and get the idea that a winch on a non fixed point under the axle is fine. Its the non fixed point that is the issue, not just the fixed winch in this pos, but the talk of a non fixed 3point one that could be a problem

 

[2458n]

The part about the axle rotating helps make it clear. My 8n will pull the front wheels with a 900lb implement on the back. Can not get to the clutch fast enough to keep from flipping, has been proven to many times.

 

[2458n]

Tractor looks great, but as a former crane op cable wants some oil soaking it. Rusty wire cable is a no no.

 

[Kirk-NJ]

Tractor looks great, but as a former crane op cable wants some oil soaking it. Rusty wire cable is a no no.

Yes I agree have to get it soaked.