1965 jd 1010

   / 1965 jd 1010 #1  

stevern

New member
Joined
Jan 4, 2015
Messages
7
Location
mt
Tractor
jd 1010
Hi
I own a gas 4 cyl jd 1010, have had it 5 years, only use it to plow snow or till garden, I keep it covered and on a battery charger at all times, Over the years, I have had the spark plugs replaced a rebuilt starter, new battery 1 month ago. I had it running fine 1 week ago, had a loose battery cable. 2 days ago, started it up, ran for a minute, stopped like it frequently did. Now the key turns over and nothing, just dead, no oil light, nothing? Any suggestions. I am not a mechanic at all
Thanks
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #2  
If you're not a mechanic at all, your best bet is to get a mechanic to look at it. They'll have it fixed and you'll be plowing snow instead of spending weeks diagnosing the problem and sourcing parts.

I know nothing about your tractor, but there are some universal engine diagnostic routines. So, if you do want to take a crack at it yourself, read on.

You say "the key turns over and nothing, just dead, no oil light, nothing." When you say "turns over," people that work on engines interpret that to mean the starter is turning. Does the starter turn when you turn the key (That's the rrrrrr-rrrrrr-rrrrr noise that your car or tractor make when you're turning the key but they haven't started to run on their own yet)? Or do you mean that you turn the key and absolutely nothing happens?

If it's the latter, and absolutely nothing is happening, then you have an electrical problem. Double-check the connections at the battery. Also, look at the connections on the starter (It's a coffee-can sized electric motor hanging off the back of the engine. It will have a big wire going to it). If everything looks good there and the key still doesn't do anything, the first thing to check is the battery. It could be dead. If you have a multimeter and know how to use it, check the voltage at the battery (to make sure the plates haven't shorted out internally). Put it on a trickle-charger for a few hours and see if anything works. Better yet, try jumping the tractor. If it acts like it has power (Lights on the dash, headlights or work lights, or some other electrical accessory works but the starter still doesn't turn), then it could be a bad starter. You could try bump-starting it if you have something strong enough to pull it.

If it is actually turning over and the starter is turning, then you are on to the basics of gasoline engine diagnosis. Air, Fuel, and Spark.

You're getting air as long as your air inlet/filter or exhaust aren't completely plugged (full of snow, for instance) and you have compression. If you don't have compression, you're beyond any repair you're likely to do yourself. So all you can do is make sure the air inlet isn't blocked by anything. Look at the filter to make sure it's reasonably clean. Make sure there's nothing packed in the exhaust.

Assuming the "air" checks out, you're on to spark. This is pretty easy. Get an assistant to help you out. Find a fairly dark place. Remove a spark plug and hook the wire back up to it. Make sure you're not near any rotating parts and use a pair of insulated pliers to hold the plug wire so that the plus is millimeters from the engine block. Have your assistant crank the motor and watch for the spark. If you don't have one, it could be a bad coil pack or a bad ground somewhere.

If you have spark, then you need to check fuel. The easiest way to do that is to put everything back together and pull the air filter off the carb. Hold a propane torch near the air inlet, then have your assistant crank the motor. Open the valve on the torch so that the engine is sucking in the propane. If it stumbles and tries to start on that, then it means that it's not getting fuel otherwise. I don't know how the fuel system works in your tractor, but that could be a clogged fuel filter or a non-functioning fuel pump. It could also be plugged jets in the carb, but I doubt that's the issue if it was just running.
 
   / 1965 jd 1010
  • Thread Starter
#3  
sorry, it turns-the key but no response, I took the battery to a an oreily store, they tested it said battery is fine, connections are tight on starter, will take starter off in a few days and take in to be checked- oh I cleaned the battery terminals, rehooked it and same thing, tried tapping ion the started still nothing
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #4  
You turn the key and there's absolutely no response? None of the lights on the dash that normally come on do? Does the tractor have any electrical accessories at all? Does anything at all work?
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #5  
Are there any fuses anywhere? You probably have a "fusible link" between your battery and the rest of the tractor. Make sure that is in tact.
 
   / 1965 jd 1010
  • Thread Starter
#6  
no nothing when the key is turned, unsure if there any fuses, will have to check, too dark out now, tractor in open barn and snowing hard out, I will check and reply
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #7  
no nothing when the key is turned, unsure if there any fuses, will have to check, too dark out now, tractor in open barn and snowing hard out, I will check and reply

Don't bother with the starter then. Your electrical problem happens before you get to that. Either a wire is disconnected (Like the main ground), an important fuse is blown, or the ignition switch isn't working.

The ignition switch in a 1965 tractor must be extremely simple. You could test it by removing it and looking for continuity between the common and the switched pins with the key in various positions. Or, if it's obvious where the current is supposed to go when you turn the key on, you could short across those wires and see if the tractor does anything.
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #8  
Another possibility is that some kind of safety isn't disengaging. But I'd assume you'd get dash lights when you turn the key even if the clutch interlock or something wasn't working.
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #9  
There are no safety switches on the 1010. There is however a fuse. It should be in the dash near the key switch. Look for a black or brown knob/fuse cap that is about 1/2" in diameter. push in on the fuse cap and turn it 1/4 turn to the left. The fuse cap should pull out and bring the fuse with it.
 
   / 1965 jd 1010 #10  
I would suspect a fuse in the line as jd110 suggests. The 1010 came out just a few years after my 420 and that fuse would blow and leave a real blank as to what was wrong. I see in jdparts that the 1010 shows that fuse.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

82" Pallet Fork Extensions, New (A47371)
82" Pallet Fork...
Kubota V3800T Diesel Engine (A49251)
Kubota V3800T...
1996 Butler Pole Trailer, Single Axel, GVWR 10,000 (A47371)
1996 Butler Pole...
MILLER CP-302 WELDER (A48992)
MILLER CP-302...
24ft Corral Panels (A49251)
24ft Corral Panels...
Easy Flo 220 Bushel Gravity Wagon (A49251)
Easy Flo 220...
 
Top