199 hours is close enough!

   / 199 hours is close enough! #21  
Is the filter in the second picture the one that came out of the box in the first picture???????????

The box in pic 1 clearly says made in USA, yet the filter in pic 2 says made in china:mur:

Maybe just the tag and box was "made in USA"

If indeed the filter and the box go together, I'd be pi$$ed
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #22  
Good catch LD. What's up with that?
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #23  
Good catch LD. What's up with that?

Or perhaps the filter is made in USA, and just the rubber end cap is made in China???

But does make one wonder.......
 
   / 199 hours is close enough!
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#24  
Well isn't that interesting, I though most Donaldson filters were made in Mexico. However that one say China on it. I suspect the repackaging of the filter box was made in USA. Daedong has nothing to do with this filter, they just put it in their box and double the price. This filter fits a million things, as we saw on some of the internet truck parts web sites which list all the applications this filter fits. The Daedong part number was just one of many. when I change it out I will see what the original says for country of origin. I was thinking it said Mexico. but it was a Donaldson also.
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #25  
About the filter: "The FTC doesn’t have a Made in America Police browsing store shelves for violations. The agency relies on consumers to tip them to infractions. If you think a company is falsely making a "Made in America" claim, you can notify the FTC’s Complaint Assistant Web site." https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/
 
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   / 199 hours is close enough! #26  
I dunno, The original filter I replaced from the factory was made in India. The replacement from Filter products corp made in Mexico....Goofy!!


Most likely just packaged here using genuine US cardboard, At least something is still made here :ashamed:
 
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#27  
I dunno, The original filter I replaced from the factory was made in India. The replacement from Filter products corp made in Mexico....Goofy!!


Most likely just packaged here using genuine US cardboard, At least something is still made here :ashamed:

I imagine the filters are made wherever someone will make them the cheapest.. I noticed my new filter was made in December 2011 and repackaged by Daedong in May 2012. Probably right here in the good old USA.
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #28  
It is time for my 200 hour service on the DK35se Hydro tractor. I was at 199 so I figured that would do.
View attachment 337925

Since on the 200 hour change the Hydro and Hydraulic filters need to be changed without changing any fluid I came up with the idea of putting a #6 machine screw into the vent plug opening to seal the system from getting any air into the tank to see if that would prevent fluid loss when I took the filters off. My only other experience with the Kioti was when I changed filters AND fluid at 50 hours. Of course I drained the fluid before I tackled the filters, so there was no fluid to leak out except what the filters themselves contained. If you will remember the hydraulic filter is vertical and contains maybe close to a quart of fluid, and the hydrostat filter is horizontal and contains about a cup. Here is a picture of the vent plug located on the rear of the tractor, and of course is also the fill port. note the small hole in the end of the crooked neck. That is where I stuck the screw to block the air ingress.
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So I changed the hydraulic filter first, and it spit out maybe 2 or 3 ounces of fluid into my catch pan maximum. Since it is vertical you can dump the filters contents at your leisure as long as you don't turn over the filter. I spent some time getting the new filter threaded, but no appreciable amount of fluid came out after the initial small splash. Did my idea work? I don't know, you tell me. Fluid loss was very minimal, and there was no need to hurry to get the new filter put back on. Those of you who did not plug your vent hole, tell me if fluid continues to flow out the connection pipe or not. I was not going to get up and remove the screw to find out:) The Hydro filter lost a few ounces of fluid, but the majority of it was what run out of the filter because it is horizontal. There was no leakage to speak of while fitting up the new filter. I took the time to wash the tractor. Grease the chassis, grease the loader, check all the wheel bolts/nuts. check all the loader mount bolts all tight this time. Of course changed the engine oil and its filter, the fuel filter was changed about 30 hours ago. I would have changed the air filter but the dealership gave me the wrong filter. I paid for the right filter, and the correct number was on the invoice, but the filter I got was not that number, and it fits a larger Kioti tractor. The coolant was changed about 30 hours ago so it is good to go for a while.

I cleaned and shined up the plastic parts with some "son of a gun" spray protector.

Checked and refilled the hydraulic fluid level, and called it good. While I was at it I touch up painted the tractor and painted my ballast barrel inside and out
I tested everything out a bit and put it back in its "den

It was a beautiful day for working outside.:)

James K0UA

I run my DK35SE HST up on 4" x 6" wood blocks, first on the right side to change the hydraulic filter and then the left side to change the HST filter. No oil comes out. It was same while making the "squeal in reverse" banjo bolt modification at the HST filter. I changed the hydraulic and HST filters two times (200 hours and 400 hours) since the 50 hr service with no oil loss other than the few ounces of spill.

I did not change the hydraulic oil at 400 hours and may not do it at 600 hours(it will likely be in January...brrrr!). My dealer advised it is a waste of money to change it at 400 hours for my relatively light load conditions. He recommended 800 hours but then mentioned 600 another time. I'll check with him when I'm closer to 600 hours (I'm now at 577 hrs). I'm not advocating going against the manual, but I trust my dealer and know he will stand behind his recommendation. It was the same with my air filter which I believe is supposed to be changed at 100 hours. I changed mine around 370 hours. Even then it was likely not necessary since I operate in a mostly dust and pollen-free conditions. Again, my dealer knows my conditions and said to change it when I thought it needed it.

Anyhow...running the tractor up on blocks works for changing hydraulic and HST filter. But I'm not sure the blocks are even necessary. I use them because I have some short pieces that were cut off a larger beam.
 
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I run my DK35SE HST up on 4" x 6" wood blocks, first on the right side to change the hydraulic filter and then the left side to change the HST filter. No oil comes out. It was same while making the "squeal in reverse" banjo bolt modification at the HST filter. I changed the hydraulic and HST filters two times (200 hours and 400 hours) since the 50 hr service with no oil loss other than the few ounces of spill.

I did not change the hydraulic oil at 400 hours and may not do it at 600 hours(it will likely be in January...brrrr!). My dealer advised it is a waste of money to change it at 400 hours for my relatively light load conditions. He recommended 800 hours but then mentioned 600 another time. I'll check with him when I'm closer to 600 hours (I'm now at 577 hrs). I'm not advocating going against the manual, but I trust my dealer and know he will stand behind his recommendation. It was the same with my air filter which I believe is supposed to be changed at 100 hours. I changed mine around 370 hours. Even then it was likely not necessary since I operate in a mostly dust and pollen-free conditions. Again, my dealer knows my conditions and said to change it when I thought it needed it.

Anyhow...running the tractor up on blocks works for changing hydraulic and HST filter. But I'm not sure the blocks are even necessary. I use them because I have some short pieces that were cut off a larger beam.

Well it is possible that no large amount of fluid actually comes out anyway without any of our mitigation attempts.. Of course my plugging the vent idea is sure easy to do:) It would be great to hear from a few more guys doing the 200 filter change on a nice level surface to recount their experiences.
 
   / 199 hours is close enough! #30  
As far as the air fitler, just a FYI. I put the inner one from a Bobcat tractor in my DK50 at about 10 hours and now have 350 on my 2012 and I just cleaned both and the inner one did show a little dust in it. Sooo I still recommend the inner filter just to keep the engine as clean as possible. Keep the intake clean and your diesel will live a long life. Also this eliminates any concern with blowing the element out, if it fails the inner one will catch anything. In the 30 years I have been working on diesels I have never seen a issue with blowing elements out but this eliminates any worries For the naysayers. CJ
 

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