1999 silverado comments
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StoneHeartFarm
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Re: 1999 silverado - Lemon Laws
Crafty,
try the following link, you can enter vehicle year, make and model and get info on recalls, defects, and complaints filed. I believe you can also get info on filing a complaint.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
SHF
Crafty,
try the following link, you can enter vehicle year, make and model and get info on recalls, defects, and complaints filed. I believe you can also get info on filing a complaint.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
SHF
fishman
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Crafty,
Wow! What a lemon! Make GM buy it back!/w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif
I have to say I'm shocked. My 2000 z-71 is at 21,000 with nary a hiccup (excepting the cheap firestone tires and the right rear shock grommet). A guy I work with has a '99 z-71 with 80,000 miles on it and has had ZERO problems. States it the best truck he's ever owned. Probably a quarter of those miles were towing a 5000 lb bass boat too.
The kind of problems you are having should not be normal for ANY brand of truck. Have to admit, the problems I had with two previous Ford vehicles were much more minor than what you have experienced, and I won't buy another Ford product in the forseeable future. I sense a brand switch in the future for you.
Wow! What a lemon! Make GM buy it back!/w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif
I have to say I'm shocked. My 2000 z-71 is at 21,000 with nary a hiccup (excepting the cheap firestone tires and the right rear shock grommet). A guy I work with has a '99 z-71 with 80,000 miles on it and has had ZERO problems. States it the best truck he's ever owned. Probably a quarter of those miles were towing a 5000 lb bass boat too.
The kind of problems you are having should not be normal for ANY brand of truck. Have to admit, the problems I had with two previous Ford vehicles were much more minor than what you have experienced, and I won't buy another Ford product in the forseeable future. I sense a brand switch in the future for you.
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You guys are really starting to scare me! The shop just bought a new work truck, which I get to use. 2001 Chevy 2500HD regualr cab, 6.0L, auto, 8.5ft Fisher plow. Had to give Chevy a go. Have had problems with our 1997 F-350 dually wrecker. I guess time will tell. I hope my new 2001 wasn't made on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon, like yours crafty. One thing I will say my dealer said he would stand behind me 100%. My Ford dealer doesn't.
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skent
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I have a 89' Ford F150, longbed-plain jane-no frills-been great with the exception of needing a transmission rebuild (Mazda 5 speed manual with O/D) every 18K miles. First one was on the dealer, second one the truck was 5 weeks out of warrenty (at 36K). Dealer was REAL sweet and split the cost with me to the tune of $560. What worries me now is the truck has 54K on it now, and I'm just assuming its days are numbered. Dealer was sure he got it right last time, let's hope so. Truck is only for Farm use and only gets about 4K per year put on it. When it goes, It won't go into reverse or O/D. Both times there was no prior warning. And yet EVERYONE i've talked to that have Fords w/ Mazda 5sp say they are the best transmissions they have ever seen, last forever and ever.
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Don't worry, Derek! I swear by Chevy and GMC (same thing). Got rid of a GMC van last year with 250,000+ miles on it, never had a major repair. The Chevy I had before that, I got rid of at 238,000, also never a major repair. Right now I have a 2000 GMC van and a 2001 Silverado, Z71, off road, extended cab, etc., etc. I couldn't be happier with both./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif When we got the Silverado, we got rid of my wife's full size '94 Bronco, because even in 4 wd, it got no traction in the snow, and we had never ending mechanical problems with it. I hated that Bronco. I would NEVER buy another Ford!!!/w3tcompact/icons/mad.gif
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StoneHeartFarm
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Rich,
You got rid of it with only 250,000 miles on it? I've got 312,000 miles on my 91 Cavalier and it's still going strong (knock wood). It's was running a little funky this spring and I thought I was going to lose it, but some new plugs and wires fixed it right up. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Bought it new off the lot and so far I've replaced 2 starters, 1 serpentine belt, brakes, battery (really not GM's fault), radiator, hoses, heater core and this spring 1 water pump. Our GOOD vehicle now is an 87 GMC bought with 134,000 miles on it. Once I found out how long these things are lasting today, buying with 100,000 miles is not a problem.
In the 70's and early 80's, a vehicle with a hundred thousand on it was pretty much beat to death. But, somewhere down the line these guys got much better at building vehicles. Either that or I've been REALLY lucky /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif.
I've blown up engines in Toyota, Ford, and Dodge. The wife took out a Renault. My hunch is: different vehicles for different Folks. I've got friends that swear by Ford and just seem to be able to keep driving them forever. But, it just doesn't seem to work for me /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif.
SHF
You got rid of it with only 250,000 miles on it? I've got 312,000 miles on my 91 Cavalier and it's still going strong (knock wood). It's was running a little funky this spring and I thought I was going to lose it, but some new plugs and wires fixed it right up. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif Bought it new off the lot and so far I've replaced 2 starters, 1 serpentine belt, brakes, battery (really not GM's fault), radiator, hoses, heater core and this spring 1 water pump. Our GOOD vehicle now is an 87 GMC bought with 134,000 miles on it. Once I found out how long these things are lasting today, buying with 100,000 miles is not a problem.
In the 70's and early 80's, a vehicle with a hundred thousand on it was pretty much beat to death. But, somewhere down the line these guys got much better at building vehicles. Either that or I've been REALLY lucky /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif.
I've blown up engines in Toyota, Ford, and Dodge. The wife took out a Renault. My hunch is: different vehicles for different Folks. I've got friends that swear by Ford and just seem to be able to keep driving them forever. But, it just doesn't seem to work for me /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif.
SHF
I'm surprised that no-one has yet suggested that you contact the area service representative for GM. When it comes to major service issues these are the guys you really want to talk to - not the dealer. The dealer is just a 'go-to' to the service rep when there are major repairs to see what GM will cover.
Give it a try - you may well be outside your state's lemon law time-frame and it wouldn't hurt! (I'm not linked with GM other than a friend of mine ... who is a service rep!)
I currently have an Isuzu Trooper - which has a GM tranny - and no problems at all with that. Prior had a Toyota 4x4 and used to regularly cart around 1000lbs in the back (I know, not too smart) - and that was still running flawlessly at 75,000 miles when I traded it. Still regret not keeping it, but not enough room for the kids.
Give it a try - you may well be outside your state's lemon law time-frame and it wouldn't hurt! (I'm not linked with GM other than a friend of mine ... who is a service rep!)
I currently have an Isuzu Trooper - which has a GM tranny - and no problems at all with that. Prior had a Toyota 4x4 and used to regularly cart around 1000lbs in the back (I know, not too smart) - and that was still running flawlessly at 75,000 miles when I traded it. Still regret not keeping it, but not enough room for the kids.
bsauter
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All the manufacturers turn out junk sometimes. I have no brand loyalty. My wifes 94 K2500 Suburban with the 6.5 diesel has 140,000 on it now and only had two electronics problems on the pump. Steering is loose now and she says the check engine light is coming on every now and then. I really can't complain, it's been a great wagon for her and the kids. But I was issued a new '88 Caprice police car back in 88 that was in the shop 23 times in 24 months and I babied that car.
I had a 91 Ford Explorer that was lemon lawed and the second one was not much better but my present Ford F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 Powerstroke has 60,000 miles with no problems. My '95 Dodge Ram gave me 75.000 miles with one warranty claim for the power seat motor and my mechanic still drives it after I got the Ford. I was scared to by a Chrysler but it held up well except for niggling little things breaking in the cab.
Sometimes you get a good one and sometimes you don't. I just really p#$%s you off when you don't. It's a shame that quality can't be even across the board.
Brad, Kubota L3010HST, loader, R4 tires
Pictures at http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=179207&a=9183978
I had a 91 Ford Explorer that was lemon lawed and the second one was not much better but my present Ford F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 Powerstroke has 60,000 miles with no problems. My '95 Dodge Ram gave me 75.000 miles with one warranty claim for the power seat motor and my mechanic still drives it after I got the Ford. I was scared to by a Chrysler but it held up well except for niggling little things breaking in the cab.
Sometimes you get a good one and sometimes you don't. I just really p#$%s you off when you don't. It's a shame that quality can't be even across the board.
Brad, Kubota L3010HST, loader, R4 tires
Pictures at http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=179207&a=9183978
StoneHeartFarm
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bsauter,
Had the check engine light on my Cav popping on and off for awhile. Wound up I had to change the fuel filter. These darned things are all computer controlled and the computer will adjust fuel and timing to keep the engine running as smooth as possible under all kinds of different circumstances. The check engine light didn't start coming on until the car really started acting bad. My wife's Cav had an alternator go out and do about the same thing with the check engine light. Both repairs took me under an hour. One thing about GM's computer set up (at least prior to the new stuff from the late 90's). Always disconnect the battery when changing alternator, fuel filters, etc. This isn't only for safety, but also because the computer LEARNS how to run the vehicle. Disconnecting the battery clears the memory and the computer basically re-learns how to run the engine with the new parts.
SHF
Had the check engine light on my Cav popping on and off for awhile. Wound up I had to change the fuel filter. These darned things are all computer controlled and the computer will adjust fuel and timing to keep the engine running as smooth as possible under all kinds of different circumstances. The check engine light didn't start coming on until the car really started acting bad. My wife's Cav had an alternator go out and do about the same thing with the check engine light. Both repairs took me under an hour. One thing about GM's computer set up (at least prior to the new stuff from the late 90's). Always disconnect the battery when changing alternator, fuel filters, etc. This isn't only for safety, but also because the computer LEARNS how to run the vehicle. Disconnecting the battery clears the memory and the computer basically re-learns how to run the engine with the new parts.
SHF
