Oil & Fuel 1st Oil Change on BX2660

Lumberdink · Feb 23, 2012

Maybe I read the manual's maintenance schedule incorrectly but if I did, it didn't recommend an oil FILTER change until 200 hours?

I changed the oil and filter (duh) and I'm glad I did. It looked pretty beat up.

gwdixon · Feb 23, 2012

Lumberdink said:
Maybe I read the manual's maintenance schedule incorrectly but if I did, it didn't recommend an oil FILTER change until 200 hours? I changed the oil and filter (duh) and I'm glad I did. It looked pretty beat up.

Yeah, that topic has been kicked around here every since Kubota changed the maintenance schedules to use less oil and consumables.

It seems like the engines are the same. Maybe the fluids and filters are just so much better - but I doubt it.

It is engine oil and filter every 200 hrs. for my equipment. Hydraulic oil and filter(s) every 300 hrs. regardless of how it looks. But my tractors get used hard at times.

At the first 50 hours everything that flows, filtered or not, along with the fluid filters are changed around here. It is not like it happens all of the time since buying a new tractor doesn't happen that often.

Big fleets might have economic issues with such treatment. We small guys would rather not have to deal with the repairs.

Lumberdink · Feb 24, 2012

Here's a pic of a Rotella T6 label. I'm having 2nd thoughts about using it---the manual says no CJ-4

although I thought the Rotella synthetic was the diesel oil.

Label says it's suitable for farm equipment.

bp fick · Feb 24, 2012

I think your manual was printed so long ago it is out of date.

If it's oil, it's wet, it was made in the last 5 years, it'll lubricate and you're engine won't break. That's how seriously I take all this stuff. :laughing:

deezler · Feb 24, 2012

Lumberdink said:
Here's a pic of a Rotella T6 label. I'm having 2nd thoughts about using it---the manual says no CJ-4 although I thought the Rotella synthetic was the diesel oil. Label says it's suitable for farm equipment.

Why would the manual possibly say "no cj-4" ?? That is a darn good diesel engine oil, and I can assure you you'd have no problems running it. For pete's sake, these are just little diesel engines running pretty low cylinder pressures and light cam-train forces. I can't understand why the manufacturers get so picky - have they really ever had field failures and warranty issues due to lubricating oil, or is this just more pointless CYA and liability elimination?

Any diesel tractor ever made will run perfectly fine with Rotella or mobil 1 (diesel) oil. Old, new, turbos or not. These are state of the art lubricating oils and using them should not cause any worries.

Lumberdink · Feb 24, 2012

Sorry to be so cautious but I've got a lot on the line here. Only 54 more payments and she'll be all mine

so I want her to last. After some more researching, I think the issue with the CJ-4 is that it may not be compatible with ULSD. This seems to confirm what you guys are saying about the manual being out of date. Sigh...

bp fick · Feb 24, 2012

Lumberdink said:
Sorry to be so cautious but I've got a lot on the line here. Only 54 more payments and she'll be all mine so I want her to last. After some more researching, I think the issue with the CJ-4 is that it may not be compatible with ULSD. This seems to confirm what you guys are saying about the manual being out of date. Sigh...

Understand, I guess, that I'm a skeptic by nature. Mobil and Shell are the world wide leaders of oil products. Spend more money on research than just about anyone. They dominate the diesel engine oil market.

Kubota owns no oil company, not a one, and simply has Ashland/Valvoline puts Kubota stickers on their Ashland jugs of oil. Whoopi. I'm not knocking Kubota stickered Ashland motor oil, not in the least, but honestly, no.... for hootin' Pete's sake. What difference could using ANY of the leading oils possibly make? Change it on time, fresh filter, and the tractor will likely be traded off long, long before the engine gets used up. I dunno.

dennisgw · Feb 24, 2012

The internet is your friend.....
CJ-4 Service Category Description

Lumberdink · Feb 25, 2012

The internet is your friend.....

Yes, aware of that. I had been googling "Rotella T6 in Kubota" but was coming up a little short. Thanks---I printed that page and will "do my diesel right!" :thumbsup:

oldballs · Feb 25, 2012

Lumberdink...thanks for bringing up this discussion. Being a relatively new BX2660 owner, I got my manual for review. The maintenance interval does recommend an oil filter change at 50 hrs. It also says that a 15W-40 or 10W-30 oil will cover all temperature ranges. Then it says that "the CJ-4 engine oil is intended for DPF (Diesel Particulate Filter) type engines, and cannot be used on this tractor". The Kubota branded oil that I have used in the three oil changes thus far is labeled as CI-4 Plus. I use the Low-Sulfur fuel. So I'm good.

But there is another note that talks about EGR type engines as well as DPF engines. What type engine is the BX2660 in this regard? Page 2 of the manual says it is a "Indirect injection, vertical, water-cooled, 4-cycle diesel". I haven't found a mention of whether it is a EGR or DPF type. Anybody that isn't already bored with this thread can reply.:laughing: