1st real problem with my TC24

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Bob_Skurka

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Well to some of you this might not qualify as much of a problem, but this is really the first issue with my TC.

Sunday I filled up the tank with fuel, hooked up the JD 71 Flexi planter and finished planting the sweet corn. Mowed a small part of the yard. Moved branches to the burn pile. Did a few other odds and ends. Parked the tractor and took the day of Monday to be with the family.

So today a college kid (and his 2 assistants) I hired shows up to tear up the sod in my back yard with a sod cutter to prepare it for a new Japanese inspired garden. He grew up on a farm, drove tractors all his life, I left the TC for him to use ot haul the sod to the compost pile. He and I went through everything, safety interlocks, operating, etc last week. So off I go to my office. An hour later he starts up the tractor, drives to my back gate and the tractor sucks the fuel tank dry while it is exactly in the middle of the open gate. Fuel tank is reading FULL.

On the cell phone I try to talk him through everything, I figured as he was coming down the hill to the gate the leaned forward and the safety switch cut the engine. I hear the engine cranking over the cell phone. Can't be a safety interlock because they disengage the starter. I can't just tell him to fire up the other tractor for 2 reasons. . . 1st, the bigger tractor won't fit through the gate. . . 2nd, this tractor is stopped in the gate!

I leave work, come home and find him and his 2 assistants and my little tractor stopped in the middle of the gate. Can't push it back because that is UP HILL. Can't push it forward because they had dug a nice hole in front of it for a fountain. Hmm. Fuel guage is reading FULL. The clearance on either side of the tractor is 2" to either gate post.

Silly me, I take the fuel cap off and look inside. NOTHING. Not a drop. Guage is reading FULL.

Into the garage for some fuel. Spare tank is 1/4 full. So there is a bit over a gallon of fuel in the tank. So now I have Larry, Moe & Curley trying to help me as I try to get between the tractor and the gate to lift the hood, take off the side panel and see about bleeding the fuel line. Never done that before on a tractor with a loader, let alone a tractor with a loader stuck in a gate, while wearing my best dress Hawaiian shirt, finest Top Sider boat shoes and crisply ironed khaki slacks. Fortunately the little Craftsman 1/4" drive socket set fit in the small area and I had the nut undone to bleed out the air. It started without having to undo the injectors too.

But now I guess I better watch my fuel a little better. And call my dealer as my warrenty is about to run out and I'd like to get the fuel gauge fixed under warrenty.
 
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Wondering about your attire, just what kind of work do you do? In my mind I picture undercover vice squad in Miami! Glad you got it started back up.
 
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<font color="red"> In my mind I picture undercover vice squad in Miami!
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Nobody who ever saw me would ever mistake me for Don Johnson on the old TV show Miami Vice. My hair is too long and my back is too furry. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Bob sorry you had a problem. At least you knew how to handle the fix.....

I never go near the 40D in good clothes. The tractor is a grease magnet and it jumps out at me if I'm wearing anything but work clothes. Even went so far as to invest in a pair of coveralls so that when I do feel the need to hug the tractor at least I don't look like I did. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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Mike, surprisingly enough, I didn't get my clothes dirty until the dog jumped up on me /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I actually had only bled one fuel line before and that was years ago. I knew it had to be done but didn't really know how. The operators manual was very clear and easy to follow. I did feel that I was under some pressure as I had a real farm boy watching me, the fact that the 3 guys roofing my new garage were watching didn't help much either, but I got lucky as a quick read of the manual did the trick. I was most worried about getting my hand and a wrench into the spot I needed to get it into to get the nut loose, but even that was pretty easy.

These little diesels have a lot of advantages over gas engines and ease of maintaining them is a biggie, but I think I am still a bit more familiar with gas engines when things go wrong . . . although I tend not to work on gas engines anymore and for the last few years have just packed them up and hauled them to the local repair shop! I may understand them, but it doesn't mean I like to mess with them.
 
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Sounds like things worked out pretty smoothly and glad it wasn't something severely wrong. Plus you got off work early. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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<font color="blue"> Fortunately the little Craftsman 1/4" drive socket set fit in the small area and I had the nut undone to bleed out the air. It started without having to undo the injectors too. </font>

Apparently the fuel systems on newer tractors are less likely to need bleeding. I recently changed the fuel filter on my TN 75 as a part of the 50 hr. filter changes. After I put the new filter on, I was preparing to bleed the system. A neighbor was watching and suggested that I probably wouldn't need to bleed the air out. I was convinced in my mind that he was all wet but decided to humor him and try to start it without bleeding. To my surprise, it started right up and has not given fuel problems since. At that point I went and got us both a cool one and we celebrated the fact that I was able to skip the bleeding step.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I recently changed the fuel filter on my TN 75 as a part of the 50 hr. filter changes. After I put the new filter on, I was preparing to bleed the system )</font>

Same experience. I was broke down in the field on my 7610s and changed the fuel filter. I had limited tools with me and calle dthe mechanic at the dealership about what to expect on bleeding the system. He told me to put the key in the ignition switch, turn it to one click on, which is the electric fuel pump, then he said to look at the fuel filter housing.. there is a thumb screw/plastic knob, turn it back.. i did .. air hissed, and then fuel sprayed.. i closed it.. he said 'have a good one.. it's bleed.

Took all of about 3 seconds... nice. I have memories of bleeding other diesels that took up to a half an hour cracking various lines.. pumping primers.. .. etc.. etc.. I very much like these self bleeding and semi-self bleeding systems!!

Soundguy
 
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Took all of about 3 seconds... nice. I have memories of bleeding other diesels that took up to a half an hour cracking various lines.. pumping primers.. .. etc.. etc.. I very much like these self bleeding and semi-self bleeding systems!! </font>


TNhobbyfarmer & Soundguy . . . I was expecting the worst when I went in to bleed the line. I will say that it was as simple as turning a nut to let the air out until the fuel started to spray out, but the tractor ran very very rough for several minutes. I suspect that the air in the injectors was working its way out of the system. But after a couple minutes of sputtering along at about 900 rpms, it seemed to get all the air out and began to run fine after that. I also suspect if I had bled the injectors like the manuals says to do, it would not have sputtered along for a couple minutes, but I was happy it started with minimal fuss so I pass on bleeding the injectors too.
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( while wearing my best dress Hawaiian shirt, )</font>

Bob,

This is SOOOO funy that you mentioned your shirt. Just this past weekend, my wife and I were out shopping for a new child car seat to use when our grandaughter is visiting. We were in a Shopko store, and as I was walking by the men's section, I noticed they had some nice shirts on sale. YOU know the kind.....nice tropical type shirts. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Anyway, I stopped to look at them, and the wife asked if I was going to buy some. You see, I've told her that when I retire, those are the only kind of shirts that I'm going to wear. So I said, "Yes, I want to look like Bob Skurka!"

She gave me this really strange look. I just said to forget it, she'd never understand. Then she said, "Oh! He's one of your tractor buddies, isn't he?" /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Glad to hear your problems weren't major, and that you didn't mess up your nice shirt! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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