2 vs 3 spd HST and transmission controls

[ovrszd]

Also don't forget that the 3038 e has a cast aluminum rear end.. mechanical gas gauge, Non removable loader and other cost savings measures.

Deal breaker right there.......

 

[Musdalen]

overszd, I'm thinking sort of the same thing.

 

[jneddermeyer1]

overszd, I'm thinking sort of the same thing.

I bought a John Deere 4052R. Only regret I have is maybe should have went with the 4066R. I think the extra horse would help pulling the hills here in western Iowa in road gear. But with that said I love the R series. The E throttle and load match are awesome with the loader. I figure that I'm saving alittle fuel with the E throttle. My biggest point that I looked at is the resale value. I figure the R holds better then the E series. Check out tractor house and compare. You will love ether one but I think you will think I I did. Features are very nice on the R and time were worth the money. My question is. Can you have to much horsepower on reserve ? Good luck on your decision

 

[CADplans]

I just today bought a HST tractor.
I was looking at about 6 used tractors, and settled on a 2 speed model.
The decision point was that this one moved at exactly the speed I mow at in low range, full pedal.
That speed is just over 5MPH, the speed I like to mow at.
Right or wrong, I will find out when the grass grows.

The others I tried, went either too fast, or too slow at full pedal.

All I can do now is hope I made the right decision,,, :confused2:

Oh, yea,, I like the slower speed for most uses,,

when you get to the age where Social Security is paying for your tractors,,
EVERYTHING you do is better when done S L O W ,,, :laughing:

 

[k0ua]

I just today bought a HST tractor.
I was looking at about 6 used tractors, and settled on a 2 speed model.
The decision point was that this one moved at exactly the speed I mow at in low range, full pedal.
That speed is just over 5MPH, the speed I like to mow at.
Right or wrong, I will find out when the grass grows.

The others I tried, went either too fast, or too slow at full pedal.

All I can do now is hope I made the right decision,,, :confused2:

Oh, yea,, I like the slower speed for most uses,,

when you get to the age where Social Security is paying for your tractors,,
EVERYTHING you do is better when done S L O W ,,, :laughing:

Most HST tractors have a cruise control or offer it at an option. So that you can find the ground speed you like and lock it in.

 

[Musdalen]

I bought a John Deere 4052R. Only regret I have is maybe should have went with the 4066R. I think the extra horse would help pulling the hills here in western Iowa in road gear. But with that said I love the R series. The E throttle and load match are awesome with the loader. I figure that I'm saving alittle fuel with the E throttle. My biggest point that I looked at is the resale value. I figure the R holds better then the E series. Check out tractor house and compare. You will love ether one but I think you will think I I did. Features are very nice on the R and time were worth the money. My question is. Can you have to much horsepower on reserve ? Good luck on your decision

after doing some more looking and question asking, I am definitely leaning towards the R series. The transmission issue is something I think I would like but the easy on/off of the loader seems like something that would be really important to me. The difference in price between an E series and an R series is about $5k. To help make up for the difference, I'm considering the 3033R vs the 3039R. I lose 6 horses and the turbocharger and that might be something I like but maybe not for the $2500 it would save me. I don't run on the road, and I don't pull long hills, so I may not really need it. Relative to my 8N, the horses and torque in a 3033R would still be huge and should meet all my needs.

So, that's where I am right now. I have until the end of February to make good on the current prices and financial incentives.

Thanks for all these comments. Everyone has been super helpful.

Brent

 

[ovrszd]

I bought a John Deere 4052R. Only regret I have is maybe should have went with the 4066R. I think the extra horse would help pulling the hills here in western Iowa in road gear. But with that said I love the R series. The E throttle and load match are awesome with the loader. I figure that I'm saving alittle fuel with the E throttle. My biggest point that I looked at is the resale value. I figure the R holds better then the E series. Check out tractor house and compare. You will love ether one but I think you will think I I did. Features are very nice on the R and time were worth the money. My question is. Can you have to much horsepower on reserve ? Good luck on your decision

Good stuff.

Welcome to TBN neighbor.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Something that maybe a lot of people are not aware of yet, but the new JD 2038R is in reality a deluxe 3038e. Quick attach loader as well as several other upgrades vs the std 3038e machines. Just another option to throw into the mix.

 

[Catman8]

Something that maybe a lot of people are not aware of yet, but the new JD 2038R is in reality a deluxe 3038e. Quick attach loader as well as several other upgrades vs the std 3038e machines. Just another option to throw into the mix.

Recently purchased my 2032R and at the time I was looking at the 2038R on paper but it would not be available for monthes and I did not have the extra money to spend. A few of the extra features are gas hood supports, I like the old fashion mechanical rod that just works and does not need replacing, like a car, the more fancy options you get leads to more costly repairs down the road. But everyone has a different income and that could be no concern to some.

 

[RonSwanson]

Something that maybe a lot of people are not aware of yet, but the new JD 2038R is in reality a deluxe 3038e. Quick attach loader as well as several other upgrades vs the std 3038e machines. Just another option to throw into the mix.

Old thread but I was doing some searching and it’s relevant to my interests. The 2038r is cool but that’s just a 2 speed HST isn’t it?

I’ve wondered if the high gear in a 2 speed is really high? Maybe it’s just a medium and they are doing without the high gear. In that case, it’d be fine. But if it’s really a low and high speed gear that would stink.

 

[jeff9366]

I wonder if the high gear in a 2 speed is really high? Maybe it’s just a medium and they are doing without the high gear. In that case, it’d be fine. But if it’s really a low and high speed gear that would stink.

I have no history with Deere HSTs.


With Kubota three range HST transmissions the LOW is lower than the LOW in a two range HST and the three range HST HIGH is higher than the HIGH in a two range HST.

 

[Scrambler82]

I use a two speed HST, it works for my smaller Max 28, but I dislike the Shifting... ! I always thought IF I go to a larger Tractor I will not only go three speed BUT it has to be a synchronized shift, where the Shifter moves between the gears without coming to a full stop and it doesn't grind.

My first Tractor was a smaller Yanmar/CubCadet, a great tractor and using the two speeds to hit the pile of dirt then go back to high range to transport, all without stopping... luv'd it !

Do all the larger Tractors have a synchro mesh type of transmissions ?

 

[jeff9366]

Kubotas do not.

Kubota 'Grand L' models with HST/PLUS transmission have a half step high/low as part of each range.
(ie: LOW/high/low, MED/high/low, HIGH/high/low)

HST/PLUS half steps can be controlled manually with control similar to a turn-signal wand or set to shift half steps automatically as load changes.


VIDEO: Kubota HST Plus Transmission Features - YouTube

 

[chevy]

The specs on tractors will list the speed a tractor will go in each gear. Use those specs as a guide.

 

[s219]

Do all the larger Tractors have a synchro mesh type of transmissions ?

Not for range selectors -- I think all tractors have non-synchro straight cut gears for that. You might find synchros on gear speed selectors and of course there are various types of shift systems for rapid forward/reverse.

 

[beenthere]

Old thread but I was doing some searching and it's relevant to my interests. The 2038r is cool but that's just a 2 speed HST isn't it?

I've wondered if the high gear in a 2 speed is really high? Maybe it's just a medium and they are doing without the high gear. In that case, it'd be fine. But if it's really a low and high speed gear that would stink.

Per the operators manual..

Choose a speed range to match work application.

L Low speed operations such as tilling hard soil, mowing long grass, or heavy hauling. Machine speed is decreased, but machine power is increased.
N Neutral position. Lever must be in the N (neutral) position when starting the engine.
H High speed operations such as light tilling and hauling, mowing short grass and transport. Machine speed is increased, but machine power is decreased.

Doubt it "stinks"..

 

[Ortimber]

My JD 4052R range selection is not synchronized.

 

[dodge man]

I Just bought a JD2025 R, it has the two speed only. It doesn't really limit your work that much. The high range is pretty much just for travelling and is probably equivalent to the high range on a Kubota. I do find my self shifting a lot but I think if I had a 3 range I would also be shifting. I traded in a Kubota BX for the JD and the JD has bigger tires and better speeds in both ranges. The low range in the Kubota was just a little bit too slow. The JD low range is just right for mowing. I'm sure 3 speeds are better but I wouldn't let it be a deal breaker on a tractor.

 

[ovrszd]

Dave, you must mow a lot slower than I. I mow in high. I rarely use low. But I don't have a loader.

 

[dodge man]

I actually don’t quit mow flat out in low range. Two reasons is the cut is a little better and due to moles my yard beats you to death going any faster. I’m mowing a little faster with the JD because of a suspension seat and the larger tires.