200' Tower

[MAX-24-Dean]

Not a utility or significant corporation?

Flat outright dead NO.

I agree with this, without more information on a legal agreement that might be reached.
Don't get stuck with maintenance or removal costs.
It's on your private property and you will take on all the liabilty if the Ham Club bails.

Obviously it is your decision, personally it would have to benefit me in some significant way to have a tower installed again on any property I own.

 

[Ken45101]

Hmmm, it apparently gets more complicated, with environmental impact reports, etc. See:

Tower and Antenna Siting

Building a new tower or collocating an antenna on an existing structure requires compliance with the Commission’s rules for environmental review. These regulatory processes ensure that appropriate measures are taken to protect environmental and historic resources. A new tower construction...

www.fcc.gov

Anything above 200' requires lighting (used to be 170') so an antenna on top of a 200' tower would probably require lighting.

Ham radio and ham repeaters are declining. It's not what it used to be 50 years ago (I built one of the early repeaters in the Cincinnati area in 1971) and I was involved in local emergency communications back then.) You might have concerns about this club having the long term resources to support this project over it's life span....and what happens to it's legal responsibilities if it becomes defunct. Or how it would affect resale value of your property.

Even with experienced climbers, accidents happen. Make sure you are very thoroughly covered. There was one ham (W0AIH) who restored and erected commercial towers on his farm. He had something like 50 of them. He made a minor error one day and fell to his death from "only" 60 feet.

Assume it is Rohn tower, not Rohm. Rohn 25G is limited to 190'. Rohn 45G is much bigger and stronger and can go to 300'. At the 200 ft level it requires 5 sets of guys but each side can be anchored at a single point. See http://www.rohnnet.com/files/2015_Rohn_Full_Catalog.pdf#page=48

FWIW, with the legal permitting and liability issues, I don't think I would allow this project with an outside organization. Myself, however, I wouldn't mind having my own 120 ft tower ;-)

Ken WA8JXM

 

[3Ts]

I agree with this, without more information on a legal agreement that might be reached.
Don't get stuck with maintenance or removal costs.
It's on your private property and you will take on all the liabilty if the Ham Club bails.

Obviously it is your decision, personally it would have to benefit me in some significant way to have a tower installed again on any property I own.

I am expecting a really big benefit from this and it will have to be in writing & guaranteed. Otherwise i wouldn't even consider it.

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

I am expecting a really big benefit from this and it will have to be in writing & guaranteed. Otherwise i wouldn't even consider it.

That is a good to know, and it sounds like you have thought out the written contract part. Lot of good info by other posters in this thread.

 

[leonz]

Walk away, this is already poison.

The minute you hear "you trust me don't you" your already in quicksand.

If the Ham radio group breaks up who is going to make up for thier lost rent payment to you???????????????????????????????????????????????

Expecting to see a cell phone repeater and having one on site with a tower rental
agreement in hand for 20 years approved by an attorney is one thing.

Who is paying for the tower rental for the GMRS repeater and for how long and it the income guaranteed?
The overland distance for a repeater is not all that great.

I would talk to the current landowner where the tower is and find out why he or she no longer wants it on
the property as something like all the facts is missing here.

That tower should have lights on it too.

As president Reagan said "Trust But Verify".

 

[ljjhouser]

Just a few thoughts. Are we talking about a cell tower or ham repeater?
A pipe - NEVER. We used to use a yard of concrete anchor (4000 #) on each set of guy wires.
For individual amateur radio use the FCC limit on antenna heights is 200'.
Many repeater antennas are are mounted on radio station antennas - some of ours are 1800-2000' towers.

If it is a club antenna, I would not unless you are a member of the club. If it is a commercial cell antenna, get a contract and talk money and obgilations with them. Best Wishes. AA0SS