2002 kioti dk35 or 2002 branson 4020 which would you buy?

[grm61]

The Branson appears to be better condition/cared for.

The Branson kinda looked rattle canned to me, I thought the Kioti was a more honest appearance , no rear remotes on the Branson that I could see, and turf tires on the Branson, don't know how hard he wants to pull a box blade.

 

[searcyfarms]

who is the closest dealer ?

 

[searcyfarms]

looks like theres one dealer for branson over 100 miles from you and 3 kioti dealers within 100 miles one as close as 60 some odd

 

[moonmonkey]

i agreed to buy the koiti, it is from a private seller ( an older man ,that i think is honest), and my out the door price is $10,000 and the branson is a dealer , who is stuck at$ 12,800. the koiti cranks runs and drives well , they had a dirt pad they let me play with the loader on, everything works, and it comes with a bush hog brand rotary cutter and box blade. i really liked the branson (its more tractor for sure),but like grm61 said its got turf tires and im box bladeing in sugar sand on my 3/4 mile long road. But the thing about the kiotis having a weak bucket curl may be true, it worked well but seems weaker than my ford 4000's bucket curl. all in all the fear (maybe unfounded that in years to come i might not be able to get branson parts and the cheaper price pushed me to the koiti,((thanks for all the info, you guys are a great help ,and i do take your opinions seriously.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Congrats on the new tractor. Nice that it comes with a couple of attachments so you can work it right away.

Post some pics when you get it home. We like tractor pics.

 

[searcyfarms]

enjoy the new tractor, like anything else you will learn the nuances of how to use your new tractor/loader and leverage to work around any difference you might find with the bucket curl, we used a 400 farmall with a koyker loader for YEARS and it was a single cylinder for curl and a 400 farmall doesnt have a lot of hydraulic pump flow but we made it work and i dont recall anything we didnt get done that we needed to, just took some extra thought and time. A tornado hit our farm in 2004 and drug the farmall about 100yards out in the field with the loader on it and bush hog on the back and actually lifted the bush hog up over the back of the tractor and bent the hitch/mower and laid it upside down over the seat/steering wheel/hood and loader arms is where it was resting when we found it the next day - obviously destroyed it to a parts tractor - replaced it with a 560 diesel and F11 loader.

 

[DK35vince]

But the thing about the kiotis having a weak bucket curl may be true,

The KL 1450 loader did have weak bucket curl.
I voiced complaints about that issue several times on this site years ago about that issue.
I did a couple changes to mine to remedy the weak rollback.
The bucket pins were only 5" apart. Re drilled mine and moved them to 8" apart for more leverage.
Also replaced the stock 1.75" curl cylinders with 2" cylinders.
Bucket curl power works like it should now.

 

[grm61]

Nice! you saved a fair chunk of change + sales tax from the dealer:thumbsup:

The kioti is a honest what you see is what you get, no repaint or touch up.

It looks like it has been used but not beat

 

[moonmonkey]

could you have used2 1/4"or 2 1/2" cylinders? plus i dont know what you mean about the bucket pins ,do you have a picture? also did you up the psi any?

 

[DK35vince]

could you have used2 1/4"or 2 1/2" cylinders? plus i dont know what you mean about the bucket pins ,do you have a picture? also did you up the psi any?

I had to alter the linkage (linkage where the bucket curl cylinder hooks to the bucket) for the 2" cylinder to clear the loader arms with the bucket rolled all the way back. Plus I was concerned 2 1/2" cylinders would slow the dump/rollback speed to much.
Bucket pins. The pins for bucket. The lower pin the bucket is attached to the loader arms, and the upper pin where the curl cylinder attaches to the bucket. I have the Skid steer style Quick attach (SSQA) and the upper and lower pins where 5" apart. I moved my curl pin up 3" so they are now 8" apart.
As far as pressure. The book calls for 2300 PSI. I have mine set at around 2450 PSI.