2005 John Deere 4410 electrical issue, no start.(Solved)

[npazin]

I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. I received the new fuel solenoid timer control module yesterday. I found time to install it today, and it did resolve the issue. Also, a new pto switch and it now functions as it should.

Hey,
I am experiencing the same issues with my 4210 that it seems like you solved with you 4410.
Great write up and thanks for following through! I hate when a thread goes silent with no resolution.
Anyhow, I also think I am at a point of the Fuel Solenoid Timer Module. I have spent the last couple days testing the solenoid, K2, K3, K4, the Diode and the what I could of the timer. I get the initial "pull-in" when I turn the key but it cuts out after the 3 or so seconds. Therefore, it runs until the solenoid cuts out. Checked the continuity on all the wires, followed voltage through the relays, and the ohms on the solenoid harness. I can rule out the Neutral and the Seat switch by using a jumper wire.
Last bit I could try before throwing down money on the Module is the PTO switch... However, I'M guessing if that was bad then I wouldn't get the "pull-in" voltage.

Again. Thanks for the write up... after reading a couple dozen others this was the most helpful and complete!

 

[npazin]

Just received the Fuel Solenoid Timer Module today.... 100% fixed the no voltage to the "hold-in" wire problem I was having. Tractor runs great now!

One thing to note as the Module was failing, it wasn't like a light switch. My first fix was a new fuel filter, and it actually worked! For about 2 minutes. Then it would run for a minute or two and cut out. So then I replaced the lift pump without doing much investigation. This had zero effect and in fact got worse. If I let is sit for a period it would run for up to 30 seconds, then when I immediately restarted the tractor it would cut off within 5 seconds. Later I discovered this was because of these tractors being self-priming.
This is when I started reading forums and virtually went through everything the gentlemen who wrote this thread went through.
This is a great thread for this problem... it would have saved me a few days of piecing together several other threads I used should I have found it sooner!

 

[Rbufe]

Good evening,

Your thread has been so informative! Granted I like to try to make repairs myself but I don’t have near the experience you do by reading your thread.
I have a 4410 and while I was shredding (PTO engage) the tractor suddenly sputtered and died. I disengaged the PTO turn the key to the off position then tried to start the tractor back up. It won’t even try to crank. I check voltage on the battery and I have good voltage. Lights work seems like I have good power. I went ahead and tested voltage at the starter and voltage is good there. But the tractor won’t even try to turn over. I begin troubleshooting the PTO switch since the PTO was engaged when tractor died. I read in your thread about the PTO switch. I went through the continuity test and the switch tested good with the switch off but when I tested it with the switch on. I was getting no continuity between terminal A and B and D and E. I’m keeping my fingers crossed this is my issue and have ordered a new PTO switch.