2008 f350 v10?

   / 2008 f350 v10? #61  
a 20002 Chevy 4500 15,000 GVWR puts it in exact same class & category as a 2002 Ford F-450 at 15,000 GVWR.
I owned an F-450 with a 7.3L.

What’s the dimensions of the truck compared to a 450? The whole point of a 450 was to maintenance the drivability of a pickup while getting more capacity. At least in my opinion. If you’re going to drive a truck that not fully grown up 6500 why wouldn’t you just get a 6500?
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #62  
What’s the dimensions of the truck compared to a 450? The whole point of a 450 was to maintenance the drivability of a pickup while getting more capacity. At least in my opinion. If you’re going to drive a truck that not fully grown up 6500 why wouldn’t you just get a 6500?


You made the statement that there was no GM competitor to the F-450 in the 2000’s.
I simply showed you there was a competitor. Whether or not the make a 5500 or a 6500 or a doesn’t matter. The outer dimensions doesn’t really matter.

What matters is the GVWR, the GCWR, the body upfitting, the HP, Torque, towing, is what matters.

A GM 4500 was a competitor to the Ford F-450
A GM 5500 was a competitor to the Ford F-550

Deal with it.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #63  
You made the statement that there was no GM competitor to the F-450 in the 2000’s.
I simply showed you there was a competitor. Whether or not the make a 5500 or a 6500 or a doesn’t matter. The outer dimensions doesn’t really matter.

What matters is the GVWR, the GCWR, the body upfitting, the HP, Torque, towing, is what matters.

A GM 4500 was a competitor to the Ford F-450
A GM 5500 was a competitor to the Ford F-550

Deal with it.

They did make a 4500 for some point in the 2000s. There was at least 10 years if not more like 15 years that GM didn’t have a 4500.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #64  
My timeline is in perfect order. Learn how to read & comprehend is all I can recommend.
Your timeline that’s “in perfect order” is, to be blunt, wrong.

Ford improved the spark plug retention with the introduction of the PI heads in the 2000 model year, and then again in the 2003 model year. There hasn’t been an issue with plugs blowing out since these changes were implemented.

The first 6.0 Diesels were introduced in mid year 2003, well after the Triton cylinder head improvements.

That means that your friend, unless he was buying old trucks, wouldn’t have experiences spark plug blowing out issues after he switched from the 6.0 Diesel to the V10 in his fleet.

Or maybe he had a time machine.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #65  
Your timeline that’s “in perfect order” is, to be blunt, wrong.

Ford improved the spark plug retention with the introduction of the PI heads in the 2000 model year, and then again in the 2003 model year. There hasn’t been an issue with plugs blowing out since these changes were implemented.

The first 6.0 Diesels were introduced in mid year 2003, well after the Triton cylinder head improvements.

That means that your friend, unless he was buying old trucks, wouldn’t have experiences spark plug blowing out issues after he switched from the 6.0 Diesel to the V10 in his fleet.

Or maybe he had a time machine.
I had a 2008 F250 with the Triton. 7 of 8 plugs were locked in and broken at 100,000 change interval and had to be removed with KD tool kit.
Brake calipers rusted totally solid it 45,000 and again at 65,000. Dealer replaced 2 exhaust manifolds and I needed 2 more when I sold it

I learned my lesson about Fords.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #66  
Spark plug spitting was over with by the time the 6.0 went into production, and Chevy has the same exhaust manifold bolt issues as Ford.

Get your time line in order is all I can recommend.

By the way, Ford continues to dominate the market, so a lot of these stories are hyperbole.

Dominate the market you say?
McDonalds dominates the fast food market too, but the food is just processed garbage.

Brand loyalty is so stupid.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #67  
I had a 2008 F250 with the Triton. 7 of 8 plugs were locked in and broken at 100,000 change interval and had to be removed with KD tool kit.
Brake calipers rusted totally solid it 45,000 and again at 65,000. Dealer replaced 2 exhaust manifolds and I needed 2 more when I sold it

I learned my lesson about Fords.
My 2017 F450 V10 4x4 dump is on its 3rd set of manifolds. First set lasted 3K miles and the studs rusted and both sides were leaking ( ticking ) ..Same thing at 7500 miles. And just now again at 11K miles. Its also on its 2nd set of callipers and rotors as the first set rusted at the 3k mile mark. Its not the truck, Its the chemicals this state uses on the roads up here in the winter. Mag chloride and straight salt by the tractor trailer load.. Matter of fact..This past summer i had the entire undercarriage of the truck media blasted and repainted because it was getting pretty bad and i didn't want it to get o the point where it can't be saved.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10?
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#68  
Thanks for all the replies. I decided not to buy this truck. I'm currently shopping for an f450 I can pay cash for. What do yall think 6.4 or 6.7 diesel? Or should I look for something else entirely?
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #69  
Thanks for all the replies. I decided not to buy this truck. I'm currently shopping for an f450 I can pay cash for. What do yall think 6.4 or 6.7 diesel? Or should I look for something else entirely?
Stay away from the 6.4 diesel! It's reputation is almost as bad as the 6.0 diesel.
 
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#71  
How's the dodge 6.7 diesel?
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #72  
Yeah, I actually trust a 'bulletproofed' 6.0 (although i HATE the term..) almost as much as i trust a 7.3, but the thing with the 6.4 is there's nothing you can do to keep it from having more expensive failures than the same failures on a 6.0 (like a turbo!).

Noone's asking but i would consider 6.0 swapping my RV, and i already like the 6.8.

Ford improved the spark plug retention with the introduction of the PI heads in the 2000 model year, and then again in the 2003 model year. There hasn’t been an issue with plugs blowing out since these changes were implemented.
My 2003 6.8 RV blew out a plug while my buddy owned it previously. He bought the nicest set of plug inserts available (i think it was a $500-700 set at the time) and i talked him into letting me do ALL TEN. I had the intake manifold out and drilled out every single stock thread in all 10 holes while laid out between the front seats. It was murder on my back and stressful as hell, but it's FULLY, fully fixed. The stock 2003 holes had about 3 threads in them. I admit that that's fine as long as a plug never gets loose or overtorqued, but having no margin for error on a part that every monkey everywhere thinks they are qualified to swap out without even owning a torque wrench, is just a dumb idea. So we fixed it.



As far as all these Ford manifolds.. when Ford was first announcing the 'godzilla' 7.3 gasser i watched some interviews with the engineers that talked about how much work went into exhaust manifold durability and totally geeked out over it. I don't know how they're holding up now that they've been out for a while but the thought of how reliable and easy to repair the engine seemed to be.. was exciting to me as a mechanic. Dorky, i know.

Anyway, medium duty trucks are hell on exhaust manifolds. They operate at heavy load much more often than light duty trucks with the same engine (manifolds get hotter and heat cycle more often and severely), AND often have less or nothing to deflect water splashing up onto them than in a 3/4 or 1ton. Those heavy trucks going through a puddle can put a 20-30ft rooster tail up, and there's nothing stopping that same water from trying to take half the heat out of the exh manifold in about 1 second. Plus a v10 is a relatively long manifold to be a 1pc. If you look at inline 6s a lot of them have 2-pc exhaust manifolds, and the ones that are one piece have all sorts of little accomodations to movement in the design. My chrysler Slant 6 for example has a really persnickety set of hardware, and tightening sequence to hold the manifold no tighter than necessary to the head and allow for relative movement between the two surfaces. Plus it is a center-exit manifold which reduces the overall temp gradient from end to end. When you have a rear-exit manifold and you look at it with a temp gun it just gets hotter and hotter front to rear as each cylinder's exhaust is added to the flow, which makes the forces in the manifold worse than center exit.

The only time i ever straight-edged a used manifold, it was off a 5.7 Hemi. It had ripped out the corner fasteners, and it was warped SIXTY THOUSANDTHS! Like you could rock it back and forth on the table and go bang bang. If it had been one cylinder longer..sheesh.
 
   / 2008 f350 v10? #73  
How's the dodge 6.7 diesel?

Definitely the leader in diesel reliability out of ford/chevy/dodge.
My 2012 w/ 262k has been great, in the 2500/3500 trucks the last year for no DEF fluid was 2012. Not sure about the 4500/5500/6500 trucks
 
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Definitely the leader in diesel reliability out of ford/chevy/dodge.
My 2012 w/ 262k has been great, in the 2500/3500 trucks the last year for no DEF fluid was 2012. Not sure about the 4500/5500/6500 trucks
Cool they seem to be priced a little better than the f350/450s also.
 

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