200X vs. 200CX FEL

wxboy · Feb 22, 2006

Can someone tell me the difference between these 2 loaders and if you think it is worth the extra money for the 200CX. I know that the CX has it's own stand so you can unhook and drive back up to it but other than that I don't know the difference.

I'm looking to buy a 2305 and I'm trying to decide if I buy and loader and if so which one.

Thanks.

matthew3120 · Feb 22, 2006

The 200X loader is a loader that you can not take off without using tools to remove it.It does not have a parking stand and you can not lift as much with a 200X loader.It only lifts 680 LBS.The 200CX loader is a self parking loader that all you have to do is take the front pressure off the front axle and lift 2 latches and cycle down and off goes the loader. No tools need for the 200 cx loader. The 200CX loader lifts 815 LBS. And it comes off in about 3 mins. max.

Good Luck ! !
Matthew3120

johndeere_2210 · Feb 22, 2006

CX all the way /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The level of "head ache's" you would suffer overtime wrestling the 200 loader off that machine (putting it on, taking it off) is not worth the few hundred dollars saved. Plus, this would really hurt the resale of that unit. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

johndeere_2210 · Feb 22, 2006

The only difference I'm aware of between the two is the taking off and putting on. I just looked up the loader specs posted and came up with this for the 2305.

200X loader 200CX
712 lb. (323 kg) 712 lb. (323 kg)

JDFANATIC · Feb 22, 2006

Don't even consider the 200X . . . I suspect you would regret it. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

MessickFarmEqu · Feb 22, 2006

( It only lifts 680 LBS.The 200CX loader is a self parking loader that all you have to do is take the front pressure off the front axle and lift 2 latches and cycle down and off goes the loader. No tools need for the 200 cx loader. The 200CX loader lifts 815 LBS.)

Reminder... those are pivot pin lift figures. If you put 815lbs of material in the bucket the tractor will not lift it. Your actual capacity is about 30% less -- even more reason to buy the more capable loader.

JDFANATIC · Feb 22, 2006

wx,

Just to explain why I recommend the 200CX: putting the loader on the 2210/2305 completely changes the weight distribution and balance of the tractor. You will want to pay careful attention to the ballast needs . . . and by the way, the tractor WILL lift 815 lbs. In fact, these numbers are from the 210 loader, but the 200CX which also goes on the 2320 and the 2520 is almost identical: 750 lbs to full lift height (68"), 800 lbs to 61", 850 lbs to 51", 900 lbs to 45" 950 lbs to 38" and 1170 lbs to 16". Anyway, because the distribution and balance are changed, you will not want to mow with the loader on. If you go with the X, you will be forced to do so or invite all your buddies to pick up and take a 547 lb loader off each time you want to change. For just a few hundred dollars more, go with the CX and the 53" bucket, and get the quick hitch advantage the tractor was designed to have, and the item that purchasers will want if you decide to sell the tractor.

On another note, what mower deck are you considering? I hope the 62C. There is a premium again, but it is well worth it, for resale, for better overlap over the tires while mowing (the 54 barely covers the tire tracks), for better maneuverability (the uncut circle of the 62C is 36"), and effectively moves the ROPS (IMHO the largest factor in maneuverability) effectively away from your trees etc.

Happy hunting!

wxboy · Feb 22, 2006

I am planning on getting the 54" MMM. I have heard the the 62C is a better fit but since my yard is pretty small and money is tight so I think I'll go with the 54C. I think it will allow me to get into a couple of tight spaces in the yard as well like squeezing between trees.

Sounds like the 200X is not for me. Thanks everyone.

orlo · Feb 22, 2006

Go with the 200CX. Also, I'd get the 62"MMM. One note also, you don't need to take off the loader to mow. You can mow with the entire loader on, but what I do (And I've been told a lot of folks do) is to just drop the bucket off. It takes a whole of about 20 seconds (no hoses) and you'll drop about 180lbs (53" bucket).

I mow Full PTO speed (2900rpm) High range at about 9mph (Very flat area) and have no problem. I've never been motivated to take off the loader for mowing. I only took it off (Was very easy) to put the 47" snowblower on for the winter.

You also get some extra's with the 200CX, I think they throw in a Bucket Level indicator and I'm thinking you get the deluxe hood guard with the CX but maybe that comes with the X also.

Think of it this way, Retail price either Deck with mounting hardware, etc. probably costs as much as the 200CX. It's a bargain.

Shawk · Feb 22, 2006

Another vote for the CX... as well as the 62" deck. I doubt you would regret it. If anything, I would bet you'd wish later on that you had gotten the 62" over the 54". For the amount of money you're spending on the entire package, a few hundred more isn't enough to pass it up. Enjoy your tractor whatever you do... and you MUST post pics when it arrives... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

B8FISH · Feb 23, 2006

I do this as well when mowing--left the bucket on a couple of times, but it was just "too bouncy" when mowing at full speed. I would also cast my vote for the 62" mower deck--if you are going around trees etc., it does leave a smaller uncut circle--you can get closer to "things".

johndeere_2210 · Feb 23, 2006

"If you put 815lbs of material in the bucket the tractor will not lift it." This statement may be true for some CUT's but not the 2210 /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

MessickFarmEqu · Feb 23, 2006

( and by the way, the tractor WILL lift 815 lbs. )

if you look right here... specs from Deere you will see that the loader is ratted for just under 800lbs at the pivot pin. I don't know the last time you lifted a bucket of stone directly below the point where the bucket attaches to the loader - I have a hard time picturing that. Generaly you see a 30% reduction in lift when going from the pivot to real bucket capacity - so by Deere's specs this loader lifts about 560lbs in the bucket. This is a case of marketing gone bad. They have ceased publishing the more truthful bucket center measurements (that Kubota and NH still use) and have gone to using the bigger number that looks better on paper. If needed 800lbs of capacity and bought this tractor to lift it they would be rather disapointed.

johndeere_2210 · Feb 23, 2006

I do understand the spec sheet, but it does not accurately reflect what the machine will do.

The numbers posted by JDFANATIC are from an individual who simply put real/verified weight in the bucket and simply determined what the machine could really do. According to those numbers, the machine CAN pick up 800lbs and carry it to another location.

As I said, the possibility exist that some other CUT's can't do this, but that's not true for this machine.

MessickFarmEqu · Feb 23, 2006

So if this is the case why would Deere not advertise this mysterious fact?

Brack · Feb 23, 2006

I was just about to buy the 54" deck and the dealer was trying to talk me into it quite a bit. Thankfully I didn't bite on his offer; he was trying to get rid of an unwanted 54" deck. Take a close look at your lawn and measure your tight areas to make sure if the 62" will fit. Then drive a tractor to see both how close you can trim to trees and not have your ROPS trim branches and how tight the mowing radius is with the larger deck. You'll be glad you did and the additional money will be well worth the cost just like the removeable loader is going to be. Think of it as an "emotional investment" to be paid back every time you use your machine. Keep us posted!

JDFANATIC · Feb 23, 2006

I'll have to assume they under-rate it . . . but, if you have any doubts, you're not that far from CT --- we can stage a test. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DJLX · Feb 24, 2006

Yea and don't forget that the 62" is cutting width not the actual width. I have a trailer that is 62" between fender wells so the 62"mmm wouldn't work otherwise I would prefer the 62" over the 54" for all those reasons stated above