2012 f350 dually

[Fallon]

A 6.0 gasser WILL pull a 10k camper safely and reliably.

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Yes the gasser, properly equipped, can safely and reliably pull 10,000 lbs. Heck, I've pulled that with my F150 on occasion. But pulling a load is SO much easier, more relaxed, with the diesel. Why I own one.

My 2005 F250 with the old 5.4 gasser in it pulled 10-12k safely. It wasn't fast at all, but HP is the least important thing in towing. Brakes, & suspension are far more important. I wanted a nicer & newer truck & I wanted a diesel. The gasser may have made more sense, maintnance & cost wise, especially with modern emissions but it's not what I wanted.

Assuming we are only talking about different engines in the same chassis & you are towing within the vehicle ratings it just means you accelerate slower. I think some of the gasses even have higher payloads because the engines weigh a lot less than the diesels.

 

[Rutman]

My 2005 F250 with the old 5.4 gasser in it pulled 10-12k safely. It wasn't fast at all, but HP is the least important thing in towing. Brakes, & suspension are far more important. I wanted a nicer & newer truck & I wanted a diesel. The gasser may have made more sense, maintnance & cost wise, especially with modern emissions but it's not what I wanted.

Assuming we are only talking about different engines in the same chassis & you are towing within the vehicle ratings it just means you accelerate slower. I think some of the gasses even have higher payloads because the engines weigh a lot less than the diesels.

Man.
Decisions decisions.
Camper would only be used probably 8-9 times year.

And truck would not be a daily driver. I have 03 z71 which is not a daily driver either.
So whatever I get would only get driven as needed for whatever.

Does it hurt diesels to do a lot of sitting? Mileage per year would be pretty low.

 

[bullbreaker]

Not saying its not a fair deal . I sold my 2011 F250 with about 144, 000 , took a chance it was first year 6.7 had just come out . I'am not a brand loyalist always have sought problem free equipment if there is such a thing .
Mine at 72000 miles left me stranded and had to get towed to dealer because of #2 classic sensor issue on exhaust (well documented issue) . At a little over 100, 000 my evaporater went twice , first time I had to pay for it second time it was under warranty . Twice I had to replace turbo coolant and line . I also had to replace all the body mounts IMO everything is pretty programed and they cut corners for profit with some cwap parts . I also had to replace R front hub assembly after 100000 miles out of my pocket . The motor itself was a powerhouse however I sold it a year ago because I felt the ceramic bearings in the early 6.7 turbo's were going to go , classic radiator issues , and possible future tranny problems .
We know all the big 3 big truck builders have there quirks . However just from my experience I wont ever buy a new Ford truck again unless its a F150 , and I will tell you what incase anyone feels like saying it and of course opinions should be respected . I don't feel like I bought a lemon its just the signs of the times and the calculated time cwap they build nowadays .
Another thing I really took care of my truck as far as maintenance etc . Just my :2cents:

 

[Rutman]

Not saying its not a fair deal . I sold my 2011 F250 with about 144, 000 , took a chance it was first year 6.7 had just come out . I'am not a brand loyalist always have sought problem free equipment if there is such a thing .
Mine at 72000 miles left me stranded and had to get towed to dealer because of #2 classic sensor issue on exhaust (well documented issue) . At a little over 100, 000 my evaporater went twice , first time I had to pay for it second time it was under warranty . Twice I had to replace turbo coolant and line . I also had to replace all the body mounts IMO everything is pretty programed and they cut corners for profit with some cwap parts . I also had to replace R front hub assembly after 100000 miles out of my pocket . The motor itself was a powerhouse however I sold it a year ago because I felt the ceramic bearings in the early 6.7 turbo's were going to go , classic radiator issues , and possible future tranny problems .
We know all the big 3 big truck builders have there quirks . However just from my experience I wont ever buy a new Ford truck again unless its a F150 , and I will tell you what incase anyone feels like saying it and of course opinions should be respected . I don't feel like I bought a lemon its just the signs of the times and the calculated time cwap they build nowadays .
Another thing I really took care of my truck as far as maintenance etc . Just my :2cents:

Man y’all done bout got me scared to get this diesel. Don’t want no high dollar repairs.

Might just start looking for 2500
6.0.
Any years to stay away from.

Or what about a dodge 5.9 or 6.7
Diesel?

 

[deserteagle71]

Man y誕ll done bout got me scared to get this diesel. Don稚 want no high dollar repairs.

Might just start looking for 2500
6.0.
Any years to stay away from.

Or what about a dodge 5.9 or 6.7
Diesel?

The Dodge 6.7 has all the troublesome emissions stuff on it. If you can find a low-mileage 5.9 you'll be good to go. That's what I did - found my 2004 5.9 Dodge/Cummins dually some years ago with only 50,000 miles on it. Should last me the rest of my life - got less than 70,000 miles on it now. But I fire it up only when I really need the pulling power, not a daily driver.

 

[Fallon]

The Dodge 6.7 has all the troublesome emissions stuff on it. If you can find a low-mileage 5.9 you'll be good to go. That's what I did - found my 2004 5.9 Dodge/Cummins dually some years ago with only 50,000 miles on it. Should last me the rest of my life - got less than 70,000 miles on it now. But I fire it up only when I really need the pulling power, not a daily driver.
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All the diesels from about 2011 on have more or less the same DEF, DPF & EGR with the same issues.

The Cummins diesels in the Doges are generally solid motors. A few years has a few minor issues, but generally solid. Duramaxes in Chevy/GM are similar. Some injector issues a while back. Not as rabid of fans as the Cummins, but generally good engines. Ford had the great but now old 7.3 PowerStroke & the very good 6.7 that had a few minor teething issues. In between there were the 6.0 & 6.4 PowerStrokes. They have been reliable for some people, but many others have had a LOT of problems. Those engines have a couple suicidal issues with EFR valves/coolers among other problems. Not cheap to rebuild in the slightest.

 

[Rutman]

The Dodge 6.7 has all the troublesome emissions stuff on it. If you can find a low-mileage 5.9 you'll be good to go. That's what I did - found my 2004 5.9 Dodge/Cummins dually some years ago with only 50,000 miles on it. Should last me the rest of my life - got less than 70,000 miles on it now. But I fire it up only when I really need the pulling power, not a daily driver.
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Nice truck. And nice scenery.
Searching the internet for 5.9 Cummings.

Lowest mileage I see averages 150xxx.

Would I be good with this mileage? I’m thinking probably if the rest of truck is in good shape.

Thoughts?

 

[bullbreaker]

Man y誕ll done bout got me scared to get this diesel. Don稚 want no high dollar repairs.

Might just start looking for 2500
6.0.
Any years to stay away from.

Or what about a dodge 5.9 or 6.7
Diesel?

I'am not really qualified to speak on other(s) . Had a 99 Dodge 5.9 dually 2wd also , solid work truck . Used it hauling mostly livestock trailer and a 20' x 8 wide Continental car hauler . Hard to find those with low miles . Seems like the newer SuperDuty diesels they got alot of the early bugs out . However I dont find it humouros spending near 80K on some of these trucks .
I think in 2012 there might have been a split year when they improved the ceramic bearings in the turbo of the SuperDuty .
You can find out by getting month build etc and researching it online if that is a concern .

 

[dodge man]

I owned a 2004 2500 Dodge with a Cummins, 4x4, quad cab, short bed. I bought it with a 100,000 miles and put 50,000 miles on it. It was a good truck but they have come a long was with newer trucks. The wind noise in mine was terrible, poor door seals. Also another common problem, a nasty vibration. At about 65 miles the truck came alive, you could really see a high speed vibration in the mirrors. I also was fighting rust in mine. It seemed to always get 15 mpg, empty, towing a 7000 lb trailer, in town, on the highway, 15 mpg. My opinion, get a newer truck, they are much nicer. If your scared of the diesel, get a gasser.