2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice

   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #1  

trbpilot

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John Deere 4300, 430 Loader, Kubota 6040M Cab LA1153 loader
Looking to purchase a new John Deere 4720 with Cab and FEL

This is what I have priced so far. Any inputs on other options i should consider. What is your opinion on turf tires vs industrials. I have a John Deere 4300 now with Turfs that I have been very happy with.


John Deere 4720 with Deluxe Cab
400CX FEL
72" HD Bucket with replaceable cutting edge
Cutting Edge
3rd function Hydraulic lines on FEL
Front and Rear Work lights
Factory installed radio
Electrohydraulic Third SCV Kit
R3 Turf Tires
Telescoping Draft links
Automotive Style cruise / Load match
Horn
Rear Fender extensions
External Mirrors
Deluxe Hood Guard
Frontier AP12F 48" pallet forks
Loaded Tires

Price out the door no tax is 46,100
This equals about 15.5% off list and is quoted with 0% for 72months
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #2  
Great machine you are building out there.

I would go ahead and add the 4 and 5 th scvs while you are at it and welcome aboard!
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #3  
I agree with adding the 4th and 5th remotes from the factory. Also IMatch, topntilt (possibly from Fit Rite Hydraulics), Rear wipers are included in the deluxe cab I hope.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #4  
Is economy PTO an option, 540e? If so get it. iMatch quick hitch. 4th & 5th SCV. Will you need Power Beyond for your Hoe? Since you are happy with the turfs get them (I would get R1s, but my uses would probably be different) I think there are better radios aftermarket, just get radio prep.
Are you getting the two implement discount (Loader & Forks)? I agree on the fixed fork choice vs floating.
15.5% sounds good if it does not include any discounts. Discounts should be on top of the % off.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #5  
Nice tractor, I also would recommend the 4th and 5th SCV valves. I don't think you will be mowing the yard with the 4720, so I would also recommend the R4's. The R4's are better suited for loader work and other ground engagement activities in my opinion than the turf tires. For straight ag work the R1's would probably be a better tire choice. For a all around combination tire, loader and ag the R4's are hard to beat.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #6  
I have R3s on mine, they work great in both the very wet (more floatation) and dry areas of my property. The R3 are also good when snowblowing and never had problems getting the traction when doing loader work or pulling a disc. However, they are not good in wet muddy conditions; traction is just plain poor and you can easily get stuck, but you know this. It all comes down to your use case for what tires you need.

In addition, you have a great setup, but you might want to consider the 4520 over the 4720. It makes sense to move up from a 4320 to 4520 for another ~$2,200.00 because you can get the ethottle with an electronically control engine and transmission, ePTO and 12HP. From a 4520 to a 4720, you are paying about another $2,000.00 for 6HP more. Unless you really need the 6HP more for something, I would move down to the 4520 and save another ~$2,000.00. This is just my opinion, but I think the 4520 is really the sweet spot tractor in the higher horsepower line of 4x20 series. Furthermore, I would truly consider the ePTO option for the tractor as it will save on fuel if you do a lot of mowing.

As for the 4th and 5th SCVs, if you have a use case for them, then should get them now, but everyone's uses for their tractor is different. Some people use their tractor for business or will use a number of hydraulically control 3PH implements so a 4th and 5th SCV makes sense. Someone like me, I just need a 3rd SCV for my snowblower; I rarely would have a use for a 4th and 5th SCV.

Good Luck with your purchasing endeavor!
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #7  
As for the 4th and 5th SCVs, if you have a use case for them, then should get them now, but everyone's uses for their tractor is different. Some people use their tractor for business or will use a number of hydraulically control 3PH implements so a 4th and 5th SCV makes sense. Someone like me, I just need a 3rd SCV for my snowblower; I rarely would have a use for a 4th and 5th SCV.

Good Luck with your purchasing endeavor!



If you look at the OP's avatar and see the equipment listed such as the 96" backblade (rearblade) then most of us would assume he needs the 4th and 5th rear outlets at a minimum. A fully hydraulic rear blade can use four outlets as an example. A boxblade with hydraulic scarifiers needs three outlets.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #8  
Ask your dealer about his contribution to your 0% at 72 months. My dealer explained to me that any financing over 48 months needs a dealer contribution which means you in turn pay a higher price. If you can swing the higher monthly payments, you might be able to get a better price with 0% at 48 months.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #9  
If you look at the OP's avatar and see the equipment listed such as the 96" backblade (rearblade) then most of us would assume he needs the 4th and 5th rear outlets at a minimum. A fully hydraulic rear blade can use four outlets as an example. A boxblade with hydraulic scarifiers needs three outlets.

Yeah, I understand the assumption. I am just trying to be more open ended. The issue is none of us know if those implements are hydraulic or not, such as the Land Pride backblade he has could be the simple RB36 96" backblade. I guess we will have to wait for the OP to respond so he can provide us with more explicit info. :)
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice
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#10  
Thanks for all the responses and think i will go with more outlets. I have a Harley Rake that has a power angle. My Box blade and Back-blade do not have hydraulic angle or tilt, but maybe in the future. The Top n Tilt is a tough one not having used it before. I think I will stick with Turf Tires as of know.

I have asked about buying the financing and I they do have to pay some. They are going to give me a 48 mo 0% price as well.

Does anybody know the difference in a Electric Diverter kit and a Electrohydraulic kit. The options on hydraulics is confusing.

I have a Kubota 6040m that Im selling as well that they are going to take on trade if i dont sell it before.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #11  
The diverter kit allows you to control the rear hydraulics using your joystick as if you would normally with the loader. The 3rd electrohydraulic kit is its own set of lines, controlled electronically by a up/down switch mounted on the left side of the joystick. I prefer the 3rd SCV myself.

I do kinda agree dropping down to the 4520 to save ya some green, but realize the 4720 comes standard with the air seat from the factory as the 4520 has the mechanical seat. It's better to get everything right now while you can since it's on the financing deal. If you have a lot of loader work to do, I do recommend the R4s. The owner's manual says they will hold more weight (less squishing under load), but turf tires will ride better.

I do like the factory stereo with Ipod hookup! Really nice radio & great sound quality & heavy duty.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice
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#12  
The diverter kit allows you to control the rear hydraulics using your joystick as if you would normally with the loader. The 3rd electrohydraulic kit is its own set of lines, controlled electronically by a up/down switch mounted on the left side of the joystick. I prefer the 3rd SCV myself.

I do kinda agree dropping down to the 4520 to save ya some green, but realize the 4720 comes standard with the air seat from the factory as the 4520 has the mechanical seat. It's better to get everything right now while you can since it's on the financing deal. If you have a lot of loader work to do, I do recommend the R4s. The owner's manual says they will hold more weight (less squishing under load), but turf tires will ride better.

I do like the factory stereo with Ipod hookup! Really nice radio & great sound quality & heavy duty.

I think I understand know. if you get the fourth and fifth set of scv do those have just a lever to control or can you switch the one you want to have control of on the Joy Stick. I want to be able to control the angle on my snowplow from the Joystick. If I have a Back blade on the back as well they must have individual levers for each set of scvs. Am I understanding this right?

Do you have the 540epto on your machine? What do you think of that option. Also, Do you like your front mud guards and HD front Grill guard?

Thanks for all your input. Just trying to make good decisions. They sure are expensive and I want to get it right the first time.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #13  
There is a push button switch on the top grip of the joystick that will toggle between front and rear circuits. There is also a small rocker switch to operate a front third fel circuit for instance open and closing a grappel Some setups such as my 110tlb also use this rocker switch to control the third valve on the rear. Normally on start up the diverter is controlling the fel with the joystick as default. If you turn on the auxilllary hydraulics with a rocker switch you can then use the push botton to switch back and forth between the front and back circuits with just a click. With this feature and say topntilt your joystick and rear outlets can be set up where moving the joystick forwards will retrack the top link which in turn tilts the implement forwards or pull back on the joystick and lean the implement backwards. Same for the tilt, lean the joystick to the left and the implement leans left and so on. Very intuitive when using a boxblade. The rocker switch I use to raise and lower the scarifiers on my boxblade. Obviously you can have different implements with various cylinders such as shoot control left and right and hydraulic blade angling whatever.

Some of the newer tractors have simple electric switches for remotes on the side console too.

Hope this gives you an idea as to how the diverters work.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #14  
Bought my 2007 4720 with 200+ hours on it in January. After getting tired of being helpless in the mud everytime we had a bit of a thaw, I got rid of the r-3's and went to R-4's. If mowing a groomed lawn is not a high priority I would go with the 4's. Nothing like traction!

As for rear hyd., I have one, but more would be nice. thinking about a hyd top link for my box blade but then again would be nice to be able to drop the side link too. Case in point, I've been doing millings on my drivewasy this past week and borrowed a buddy's big Landpride power rake. It has power angling which takes care of my one rear valve. Pain in the but adjusting that draft link with that very heavy rake on.

Oh-did you include the grill guard??
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice
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#15  
Thanks for posting

I have included the HD Grill guard.

I have a power rake that angles as well and think i should get the additional scvs for versatility later.

I plow snow with a 8" western snow plow power angle on my John Deere 4300 and the turfs do fine. My yard is nice so want to be able to drive on it without making lastings marks on it. Still struggling with the tire issue. Two sets would be nice.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #16  
trbpilot,
I am a little curious about selling the 6040M and replacing it with the 4720, could you shed some light on your thoughts?
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice
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#17  
I was waiting for someone to ask this question.

I have a John deere 4300 that I have put 3000 hours on maintaining about 25 acres. We have Horses so some barnyard cleaning and just general maintenance. I have a front snow plow that I plow my driveway as well as many others on our road. I also do some side landscaping jobs from time to time. Putting new yards in, spreading mulch, general cleanup. I have about 4 acres of Sweet corn I plant and harvest and need a tractor to work the ground. The 6040 works nice for this, where my 4300 is a little lacking in power. I think the 4720 will work the ground much better than my 4300. I have had the Kubota for about a year and it has 400 hours on it. The Gentleman i bought it from was moving and gave me a great deal. The tractor is great and one reason for the purchase was the cab. The 6040 is just more tractor than i need most of the time. I love the cab though. Im going to sell both tractors and buy and little smaller unit with a cab and hydro. I do miss the Hydro in the 6040. The 6040 is a great machine, but my wife doesn't think i need two tractors. in a perfect world i would keep the kubota and buy a smaller open station and have the best of both worlds, but I really don't want two tractors. I think the 4720 will do what i need it to do with one machine.

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   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #18  
I was waiting for someone to ask this question.

I have a John deere 4300 that I have put 3000 hours on maintaining about 25 acres. We have Horses so some barnyard cleaning and just general maintenance. I have a front snow plow that I plow my driveway as well as many others on our road. I also do some side landscaping jobs from time to time. Putting new yards in, spreading mulch, general cleanup. I have about 4 acres of Sweet corn I plant and harvest and need a tractor to work the ground. The 6040 works nice for this, where my 4300 is a little lacking in power. I think the 4720 will work the ground much better than my 4300. I have had the Kubota for about a year and it has 400 hours on it. The Gentleman i bought it from was moving and gave me a great deal. The tractor is great and one reason for the purchase was the cab. The 6040 is just more tractor than i need most of the time. I love the cab though. Im going to sell both tractors and buy and little smaller unit with a cab and hydro. I do miss the Hydro in the 6040. The 6040 is a great machine, but my wife doesn't think i need two tractors. in a perfect world i would keep the kubota and buy a smaller open station and have the best of both worlds, but I really don't want two tractors. I think the 4720 will do what i need it to do with one machine.

Opinions


If it makes you feel any better I use my 4520 cab for landscape work, that is its purpose along with the 110tlb and x749. I also have an 820 gear tractor in great shape I am threatening to sell and go with a 2720 with fel to replace it. I take it with three tractors and two riding mowers I would be on your wife's wrong list.:D I could get by with the 110tlb and the x749 but having different tractor setups for the different jobs I do is very handy.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice
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#19  
I pulled the trigger on a New John Deere 4720 with Cab. Here are the options I got.

Deluxe Cab
eHydro with 540/540E pto
Turf Tires
400CX Loader/HD bucket with bolt on cutting edge
48in pallet forks
3rd selection control valve
Electric Diverter 4th and 5th SCVS
Telescoping draft links
Rear Fender flares
External Mirrors
Auto Style Cruis Load match, Speed match and upgraded Motion Match Switch
Horn
Deluxe Hood Guard
Rear Tires Loaded

Considering adding Top n Tilt from Fit Rite

Two dealers were very competitive for my business, final price was almost 18% off list with 0% financing for 60 months. This includes everything delivered to my home.

Thanks for all your replies and all the info on TBN has been very helpful

Im keeping my John Deere 4300 for smaller jobs that don't need a cab.

Thanks again, I will post some pics when it is delivered. Hopefully in about 4 weeks.
 
   / 2012 John Deere 4720 Price Check / advice #20  
If it makes you feel any better I use my 4520 cab for landscape work, that is its purpose along with the 110tlb and x749. I also have an 820 gear tractor in great shape I am threatening to sell and go with a 2720 with fel to replace it. I take it with three tractors and two riding mowers I would be on your wife's wrong list.:D I could get by with the 110tlb and the x749 but having different tractor setups for the different jobs I do is very handy.

Not HiJack, you use your three tractor commercial, meaning they produce income for you.
 

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