2012 NH Boomer 30 HST or Kioti CK30 HST? Value?
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Yes you can. If you spend all your money on horsepower and don't have good implements you have too much power. If you spin your wheels despite ballast, you have too much power. If you are running all your regular tasks effectively at well below PTO rpm then you have too much power. If you can pull/run bigger implements than the tractor frame handles easily then you have too much power.
The "more is better" argument is silly. Extra power is wasteful. Balance of power and work is what you want. Figure out what you need to run 90-95% of your tasks efficiently and that is a good target. The other 5-10% of tasks may take a bit longer but in the long run it makes far more sense to operate a tractor close to it's max output 5% of the time than well below it's max 95%.
It's first and foremost, an occasional use tractor. I suppose I'll be using the FEL and root grapple for the most part, followed by cultivator, ground blades, and might skid some logs. A rotary cutter will be a must at some point. I have 170 acres of forest and plan to eventually clear a few acres as a hobby farm and for a food plot for game. I've got just under a mile of dirt road in that's always in need of repair and filling in the ruts. I was hoping my tractor would suit most if not all my needs and last a lifetime with proper care. I figured 30HP was a good number. Would rather not be underpowered in the future, but not sure getting an extra few HP is worth an extra grand or more. That same money could go to the implements I'd need.
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In this case, the 10 more HP is not going to hurt you with this size frame tractor. Your PTO HP will be at 30.3HP which is much better than 22.5HP (if you are getting an HST - thread is so long now, I cannot remember the transmission you are looking at). The NH TC34DA I had with a 71" (~6 foot) NH 918H flail mower would really make the tractor work when you hit heavy grass. If you are looking to use 5 or 6 foot implements, I would go with the Boomer 35 (though I not a fan of these new NH tractors).
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You can accomplish your goals with a 30hp tractor. The thing that will throw some folks off is the 170acres. That is a lot but as you explain only a few acres plus the driveway and occasional other jobs are on your work list. Mowing more than about 10 acres with a 30hp (5ft bush hog) could get real old but 3-5 acres is easily manageable with that size equipment. Lots of good choices in the 30hp range. I'd go for heavier rather than lightweight as you are not mowing much lawn if any and the other tasks all benefit from having a heavier tractor.
Heavy is one of the reasons I've been leaning towards the CK30 and Boomer30. Both weigh in over 3000lbs. After loading the rears too, quite heavy. The Ag tires should really bite. We'll see on Saturday when I ride them and throw some final $ figures thrown around.
I'll move up to a CK35 if it's only $800 more as one poster said was the deal for him. That's an extra 4HP. If it's a similar situation with the Boomer, that's even better as the jump is from 28HP to 38!
I'll move up to a CK35 if it's only $800 more as one poster said was the deal for him. That's an extra 4HP. If it's a similar situation with the Boomer, that's even better as the jump is from 28HP to 38!
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I have never heard anyone say that their tractor has too much power. I had this talk with my dealer and he said no one ever said that their tractor had too much power or the loader would lift too much too high.If you are going to buy a tractor you need to plan buying implements that will hold the tractor. It is not all power it has some to do with weight too. As far as power the ground there is not really going to be much of difference between the 2 tractors the op is talking about. You never know what implement you may want use one day and you will need that power. Even on little tractor like a CK35 you are going to have to spend some money to get implements that will take dish out. I'd rather spend the extra $800 bucks to get the larger tractor than buy the other one and wish I had the extra power.
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Maybe money is no issue but for someone cleaning out woods $800 spent on a grapple is way more effective than 5 extra HP. If money is no object then get a bigger frame tractor with bigger loader rather than extra horsepower you will almost never need. I doubt there is noticeable difference in work accomplished in a day between a CK30 and 35 despite the HP difference.
Dealers want to sell more of anything. Ever meet a car or tractor dealer that didn't want to sell more HP? People tend to like more HP than they need because it is any easy sales pitch and they don't think through the downsides or opportunity costs. You won't find many CK30 owners complaining or trading up to a 35. 30 HP is well matched to the CK frame and loader. If you need more think of a bigger frame like a DK.
Dealers want to sell more of anything. Ever meet a car or tractor dealer that didn't want to sell more HP? People tend to like more HP than they need because it is any easy sales pitch and they don't think through the downsides or opportunity costs. You won't find many CK30 owners complaining or trading up to a 35. 30 HP is well matched to the CK frame and loader. If you need more think of a bigger frame like a DK.
