2210 50 Hr Service Rants/Questions

[Koby]

It is interesting that we hear different reports about oil appearance. At the risk of being redundant, are those who have seen cleaner oil using synthetic?
Ditto on the Power Service DFA, readily available at any auto parts store, and inexpensive. I originally checked into a DFA at my JD dealer, I believe that it was more expensive, and the container was single use (could not be closed after opening).

 

[fgross335_2210]

Actually I have both Power Service and Stanadyne on the shelf. I decided to go with the Standadyne this month because cold weather is approaching (I'm in West Mi) and the PS I have is the summer blend. When spring comes around I'll start using PS in my 2210.

I agree, for the comparatively simple engine in the 2210, the PS should work great. I regularly use the Stanadyne in my Duramax pickup, one of only two approved by GM.

 

[Wildman1]

All my operations were in 70f weather under heavy loads. The oil was the breakin oil. Now I'm running Rotella Synthetic and my oil is still staying clean. Just a hint of black. Also, in the 1st 50hrs it used about 1/4 qt. That was in the 1st 25hrs..then no more. I'm not using additives but after reading this thread will start.

 

[fgross335_2210]

I read through my Stanadyne DFA brochure last night, they had comparison tests of all the DFA's. The Deere summer and winter DFA's did very well in their respective categories. The biggest advantage of the Standadyne is that it is a year-round formula. I don't recall if PS was one of the tested brands but will check again....

 

[Docsknotinn]

This is a bit off track and I dont want to digress too much but we are talking DFA with some interest now. The thing with Power Service is it is completely unknown as to whether or not their product emulsifies or de-emulsifies water. Water of corse being a VERY bad thing to any diesel. Power service also will not say if their product uses alcahol. Many DFA brands are mostly composed of alcahol or #2 diesel and kerosine. If a company will not anwser base questions about their product I personally just dont use it. In regards to the Duramax The Stanadyne is approved BUT it is a de-emulisfyer which essentially means that it seperates water. So you have water setting at the bottom of your tank and filter rusting. The GM warranty clearly says ant rust in the fuel system voids the warranty. Very nice of them to cover their butts on injector replacements. This same principal will apply to our tractors to a smaller degree based on operating pressures of the fuel system. Their are several brands of Emulsifyers, Primrose and FPPF being a few. Yesterday I drove 300 miles north on I-75 useing Power Service and with my tires set at 45 psi. 71 mph cruise all the way. 17.5 mpg. Returning I increased the front tires to 55 and the rears to 50 PSI and used FPPF and 8+ cetane boost. Same stretch of I-75 71 mph cruise. 19.7 mpg /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Of course the tire pressure had a impact but their certainly was a measureable gain from the FPPF over the Power service. In short Power service says they neither emulisfy or De emulsify as the dont have any more room in the bottle for those additives /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif I used their products often before I saw that response directly from them. Dave