I am planning on a new compact tractor. I really liked the kubota bx2200 and b7500. Also tried out the kioti ck20hst, the NH's and the Case DX's. I will mainly mow, but want the fel, box blade and tiller for landscaping. Never drove or used one, I don't really know which tires to get, I don't want to tear up the turf, but don't want to be disappointed in traction for dirt work. Each dealer tries to sell me a little bigger tractor than I need. I just called two local JD dealers and they quoted me the 2210 with fel and mmm for $12995 at 3 years 0%. This sounds like a good price to me. I plan on looking at them soon. How do they compare to the bx2200? What are some differences in the two I shoud take a good, long look at? If anyone has some thoughts, please advise.
Buying Advice 2210 advice
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44trxfun
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Danboy, I looked at the 2210, the BX2200, and in the end, bought a MF GC2300. Let me start by saying I'm pretty new in the tractor world also; there's many others here with much more experience than me so take what I tell you with a grain of salt. The MF site has a specs comparison between the three tractors; they're all close but the MF comes out a bit on top, at least on paper.
I liked the 2210, but the dealer rubbed me the wrong way. I ended up buying from a MF/Kub dealer; coulda bought BX2200 from same guy. I just happened to like the MF a wee bit better. Dealer service / attitude has been great; don't discount this aspect 'cuz you'll be dealing with them for a long time.
Even though I didn't go that way, the Kubs have been around a long time. They have a great repuation. The MF is darn near a clone. I've been very happy with mine; used it for mowing, some drainage work and some snow clearing. My only complaints are the location of the 3PH control (ends up being kinda awkward in my opinion) and a small fill on the fuel tank. Also, note that there are no stops built into the 3PH. Trying to get the same depth every time has to be done by eye. May or may not be an issue for you, but you should be aware of that consideration.
Good luck with your search.
I liked the 2210, but the dealer rubbed me the wrong way. I ended up buying from a MF/Kub dealer; coulda bought BX2200 from same guy. I just happened to like the MF a wee bit better. Dealer service / attitude has been great; don't discount this aspect 'cuz you'll be dealing with them for a long time.
Even though I didn't go that way, the Kubs have been around a long time. They have a great repuation. The MF is darn near a clone. I've been very happy with mine; used it for mowing, some drainage work and some snow clearing. My only complaints are the location of the 3PH control (ends up being kinda awkward in my opinion) and a small fill on the fuel tank. Also, note that there are no stops built into the 3PH. Trying to get the same depth every time has to be done by eye. May or may not be an issue for you, but you should be aware of that consideration.
Good luck with your search.
44trxfun, I failed to mention I also looked at the MF gc2300 also. Tractor with fel was $11000. I liked it also. I also was wondering if the 2210 could handle a backhoe. If anyone has some experience with this problem, I am interested in finding out. I am going to sell some investments with a pretty large capital gain. I plan on selling part before Dec. 31 and some after Jan. 1 to help. Can I use the tractor as a way to offset some of this? I have 23 acres and a few cows.
44trxfun
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Danboy, I don't believe the 2210 can handle a backhoe, but for that matter, neither can the BX2200 (or its' new version the 2230). However, Kub made the BX22 (now BX23) and MF just came out with the GC2310. All three of those are loader/backhoe machines.
The key to matching a tractor to you is to know exactly what you will want to do with it, near- and long-term (oh yeah, budget comes into play too!). Given that info, I'd be willing to bet some of the folks here could help steer you in the right direction.
The key to matching a tractor to you is to know exactly what you will want to do with it, near- and long-term (oh yeah, budget comes into play too!). Given that info, I'd be willing to bet some of the folks here could help steer you in the right direction.
fgross335_2210
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The 2210 is a good choice if 60-80% of your work is mowing with the rest being FEL and other ground-engaging activities. A BH is not available from Deere. There is at least one aftermarket unit available but the TBN masses are divided on whether or not the tractor and frame can take the stress. The only 2210 owners with significant dissapointment seem to be those who spend most of their time digging/blading/etc where a heavier tractor will likely perform better.
I have had a 2210 for almost a year now and am very happy with it as an "acre taker" as well as general FEL, bushhogging and grading work.
I have had a 2210 for almost a year now and am very happy with it as an "acre taker" as well as general FEL, bushhogging and grading work.
wickman
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I too am new to the tractor world but did purchase a 2210 in August. I like it alot. I tried the bx2200 but I didn't like the boomerang pedal. I thought it was uncomfortable. The 2210 seemed to be the right choice for my needs, mostly mowing with a bit of other stuff thrown in. I just didn't have a clear idea of what other jobs I would want to do with the tractor. The 2210 does have limitations but I haven't run into any yet for what I need for it to do. I can though see possibly stepping up in a few years when I become more tractor proficient. But as a mower plus more it's hard to beat.
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jdcook00
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I too own a 2210 and I love it. My advice would be to test drive them all if possible and see what one you like the best. Of course the best test is on your lawn doing some work, but thats nearly impossible. Remember that everthing is a compromise. Some units do things better than others and vice versa. A larger tractor handles a fel and bh better but are often more combersome doing yard work or mowing. I am fortunate to have a good friend with bobcats and a backhoe if I need to do heavier work so I went with a 2210 without fel to mow and do light work. Consider what is the bulk of what you are going to do with it. Go with the tractor you feel will do this best. The money you save by getting a smaller CUT may be used to rent a bigger unit for the heavy stuff. The smaller ones will do it, it just takes more time. Hope this helps some as it is just my opinion. Of course, you'll find that some of us have no problem spending other peoples money. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
bigpete
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I am a 2210 owner and have been pleased that the tractor does those things that everyone described above. I will be graduating upward soon but not out of dissatisfaction for the tractor's capabilities. I have a few other issues with my specific tractor but they are not problems with the model as a whole.
I'm only moving up one step to the 4110 for a little more capability in the hydraulics and the more universal true Cat 1 hitch. The only limits of the 2210s hitch, in comparison, are lift height and a bit less weight capacity. The 4110 does offer the bigger tiress which results in the lift height advantage and more ground clearance. I will still do the same amount of mowing, or more, with the 4110 and am not too concerned about any loss of agility. The turning radius for the 2210 and 4110 are almost identical. The engine specs between the two are also virtually identical. I think there are gearing ratio differences that provide for more useable torque in the 4110. Of course this means that the higher transport and mowing speeds on the 4110 will lug a little more on hills. On the low end of the torque spectrum, the 4110 will outperform the 2210 in ground engagement due to the ratios, greater gross weight, and larger tires.
The 7500 you mentioned in your original post is more comparable in size, etc., to the 4110. The BX is the model match for Kubota. I bought my 2210 as one of the first units off the production line because I had been waiting for JD to fill their product line gap. I do think they have a real winner in the 2210. My only issue was that I found more and more heavier work to do with the tractor as I learned of it capabilities.
The premium cost for stepping up to the next level above the 2210 and BX (new equipment) would be anywhere from $2,000-$3,500 depending on other add-ons. If you see any possible need for more tractor in the next three years, I would say take the step now. If not, the 2210 is a great little tractor.
I'm only moving up one step to the 4110 for a little more capability in the hydraulics and the more universal true Cat 1 hitch. The only limits of the 2210s hitch, in comparison, are lift height and a bit less weight capacity. The 4110 does offer the bigger tiress which results in the lift height advantage and more ground clearance. I will still do the same amount of mowing, or more, with the 4110 and am not too concerned about any loss of agility. The turning radius for the 2210 and 4110 are almost identical. The engine specs between the two are also virtually identical. I think there are gearing ratio differences that provide for more useable torque in the 4110. Of course this means that the higher transport and mowing speeds on the 4110 will lug a little more on hills. On the low end of the torque spectrum, the 4110 will outperform the 2210 in ground engagement due to the ratios, greater gross weight, and larger tires.
The 7500 you mentioned in your original post is more comparable in size, etc., to the 4110. The BX is the model match for Kubota. I bought my 2210 as one of the first units off the production line because I had been waiting for JD to fill their product line gap. I do think they have a real winner in the 2210. My only issue was that I found more and more heavier work to do with the tractor as I learned of it capabilities.
The premium cost for stepping up to the next level above the 2210 and BX (new equipment) would be anywhere from $2,000-$3,500 depending on other add-ons. If you see any possible need for more tractor in the next three years, I would say take the step now. If not, the 2210 is a great little tractor.
Docsknotinn
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The differences between the JD2210 and the Kubota. The Kubota has a three year warranty Vs the JD's 2. Financeing from both companys is usually the same. The Kubota has a 1 piece ladder style frame while the JD is a two piece garden tractor style. Use of a BH on the JD can void your warranty in a heartbeat. That depends on your dealer and what kind of problems you have. The Kubota has a temp guage, the JD does not. The JD has a tach, The Kubota does not. I like the forward/reverse pedal much better on the JD as well as the seat and the amount of room in the cockpit. Mine was $9500 tractor, 2k for the FEL plus tax. TEST DRIVE, thats the only way to get to the bottom of your questions. Every one likes something different and they are both nice toys.
Thank's for the discussion. Does anyone think the $12995 price is close. I have'nt made up my mind yet. This is going to be a 1 time purchase and I want to get it right. I think I need to buy the most hp possible and yet still be able to mow quick and easily around trees, next to retaining walls, sidewalks and the house. I plan on reshaping the yard to get better drainage away from the house. So I will be moving dirt. Can I do this with turf tires? I also plan on cleaning out barn lots occasionly to add the manure to my yard. I don't need to do this quickly, just to be able to do projects when the need arises. Those dealers always are trying to sell me a little bigger tractor than I need though and I know it. It seems as if the price does'nt sound unreasonable for a little more hp. But the main issue we me is being able to do a quick job of mowing, being able to move in and out of tight places without tearing up the yard. If I felt like I could do it with a 24-28hp tractor then that is what I will buy, but I dont' think they would be able to do the job. Guess I am looking for the perfect machine and keeping all options open. Many times I have bought something and wished I had something else. Does anyone have any help on my tax question?