2210 hydro cooling fan

jdpfeffer · Oct 22, 2006

Just over a year and I managed to shear off all the blades on the plastic cooling fan. Read a post about how much it cost to replace at a dealer (300) and am wondering if I can do this myself, or if any warranty might cover it. Any advice? Time to build a guard I guess.

Lobo56 · Oct 23, 2006

Check this post out.
Someone has changed a damaged fan by removing the floor board, fender, and ROPS.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...hydrostatic-cooling-fan-3.html?highlight=2210

jdpfeffer · Oct 23, 2006

hmm- my apologies for the repeated posting on this topic- I searched the discussions for "plastic fan" "hydrostatic fan" etc.. and did not come up with the most relavant posts at http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...hydrostatic-cooling-fan-3.html?highlight=2210
sorry about that! Is there something wrong with the search engine?

JDFANATIC · Oct 23, 2006

jdpfeffer said:
Just over a year and I managed to shear off all the blades on the plastic cooling fan. Read a post about how much it cost to replace at a dealer (300) and am wondering if I can do this myself, or if any warranty might cover it. Any advice? Time to build a guard I guess.

jd,

Are you telling us you have been driving around for a year with sheared-off blades?

jdpfeffer · Oct 23, 2006

oh no- sorry if that was not clear-this just happened yesterday- I was surprised that after 1 year of dragging trees and brush around in the woods that this just happened. (while on a pleasure cruise through the woods- not even working!)

David_B · Oct 23, 2006

I replaced my fan this spring, it really wasn't as bad as it sounds. I too took off the ROPS, seat, fenders & several levers to get at the fan. It goes pretty fast as everything is readily accessable. Once the fenders are off, it's just a matter of taking apart the universal joint to disconnect the drive shaft & swap out the fan. Taking the universal joint apart was the only difficult part for me as I'd never done it. Let us know if you need a description as to how to take it apart.

mhalla · Oct 24, 2006

On my 2210 I sawed the replacement fan in half (well sort of in half given there are is an odd number of blades) and bolted it on in two parts. This was possible since there are four bolts that hold the fan in place, two for each half. Did not have to remove anything other than the mower deck and one guard to get at the fan from the underside of the tractor. The difficult part was coming up with the right sized extensions and universal joints for the sockets that I used to remove and replace the bolts. Clearance and angles worked against me but I got it replaced without removing the ROPS, fender, seat, etc.

Mike

Deadman · Oct 25, 2006

Mine have been sheared off for almost 2 yrs now. Its got 225 Hrs on it and has been worked very hard and shows NO signs of anything from the lack of fan cooling.
I even disked a 3 acre field with it (4-5 inches deep) and it was 90 degrees outside and it was fine.

I'd like to replace the fan, but I'll trash it in a week, so why bother......its just in a retarded location. I probabely should replace the tranny filter though, because thats smashed in almost half way!

jd2210 · Oct 26, 2006

Deadman. You sound like me. I've wrecked a few filters myself. My fan is decent though. I built a skid plate for the filter and fan, but ended up taking it off due to everything gathering on it. It was hard to build a decent one since the heights are all different down there. My two biggest complaints with this machine are the filter location and the fan location and overall stupity of its construction.

bird1968 · Oct 26, 2006

I do have 5 skid plates for the 2305, that I would like to get tested on a 2210. These plates will not work with a Mid Mount Mower, but are a must going off trail. Would someone know, if the belly of the 2210 is the same as 2305?

Thanks,
Bird

jdpfeffer · Oct 29, 2006

those of you who have taken the ROPS, fenders, floorboards off: how does the MMM height adjust knob come off? I got everything off but that. Advice?

jd2210 · Oct 30, 2006

I can't really tell, but the undercarriage looks awfully similar to mine. It wouldn't matter to me if it doesn't work with a MMM because I don't have one. Nice design.

jdpfeffer · Oct 30, 2006

Figured out how to get the MMM knob off- floorboard off, still cannot figure out how to get the old fan off- there does not seem to be any way to slide the shaft to make room to get the fan off. any ideas? pic attached.

in another thread this was mentioned, but I cannot seem to find this on my 2210:

myersjc said:
Replacement of the fan can be done without splitting the tractor. I replaced mine by removing the floor board, fender, and ROPS. From there you will find cover over the flywheel on the right hand side. If you remove tht you can get in and drive out the roll pin holding the driveshaft in place on the splined shaft. Once the roll pins are removed you can slide the shaft on the splines enough to remove it without having to move the transmission or engine. Taking the ROPS, fenders, and floorboard off is not a bad job. It only takes about 30 minutes

There doesn't appear to be any cover on the flywheel accessable unless I take off the dashboard.

Ray2210 · Oct 31, 2006

I believe you may need to split the u-joint by pressing out the cups.

David_B · Nov 1, 2006

Ray2210 is right, the best way I found was to take apart the universal joint. I initially tried unbolting the drive shaft from the engine & sliding the shaft forward, but there wasn't enough play to get the shaft off the male end of the hydrstatic rear end. Here's how you take apart the universal joint:

1) Remove the 4 Clips from the unversal joint.
2) GENTLY tap the cups in one direction until one cup sticks out & can be removed (I could just take them off with my finger once they were exposed).
3) Push the joint the OTHER way & remove the second cup (should be on the same axis as the first one you removed).
4) Now push the joint along the other axis to remove the third cup. Once the third cup is apart, I could remove the center piece of the universal joint & the joint was apart.

Be VERY careful with the cups as they contain the bearings of the joint. You don't want to loose any parts or get dirt in the bearings. Once you get the first cup out, it will all click & make sense how it goes together & comes apart.

chipsndust · Nov 4, 2006

jd:
I don't know how to link back to an old thread, so I pasted 2 posts from an old thread here (see below). This is how I got my fan repaired. I took these posts, and a diagram of the 2305 driveshaft which I downloaded, to my dealer. He used this approach, and had my fan replaced the next day. You don't have to disassemble anything except the rear universal joint in the driveshaft. Hope this helps.

04-25-2006, 09:55 PM
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caseyd

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3 Re: 2210 Plastic Hydrostatic Cooling Fan Replacement
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Hello Everyone,

I am fairly new to the forum and proud owner of a 2305. This is kind of funny, this past week I was clearing brush with the loader and of course a stick got caught in the fan and destroyed four of the blades. I was pretty disappointed with what had happened and of course like some of us here who encountered the same problem was completely going insane on how to replace the fan. I thought about taking off the floor plate, fenders, ROPS etc. Started to do that, and that was way too labor intensive. Spoke to the mechanic at the dealer and he suggested droping the shaft at the front of the machine where it connected with the engine. Again, way too complicated.

I am lucky enough to happen to know a fella who is a diesal mechanic for an excavating contractor. He stopped by and here is how we did it, in less than 30 minutes, without cutting anything.

There is a bushing, or bar that holds the mid mount mower that needs to be removed. The transmission shaft is now easily accessible. The mechanic then took the drive shaft apart at the knuckle joint closest to the fan. It seem pretty involved (I am not a mechanic). He removed c-clamps, punched out two bushings and the shaft dropped down and he was able to access the fan bolts and he replced the fan.

I am going have this fellow make me a skid plate of some sort - he is an outstanding welder, definitely a good guy to know.

I am pretty surprised myself on how easy this fan got destroyed. I am going to definitely send a letter to JD.

08-08-2006, 06:16 PM
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local40
New Member

Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2 Re: 2210 Plastic Hydrostatic Cooling Fan Replacement
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Hi Guys
I just replaced mine using the method of taking the universial joint apart. It was not that hard to do if you remove the bracket for the deck height adjustment, Took me about a hour but I was in no big hurry.