2210? or bigger

[trlong]

Ray,

I run a rear blade all winter with the 47" blower and often during the summer with the 410 FEL. If your rear blade is like mine (has a 1" rod with foot as storage foot), try sliding 25# weights on the rod. I add 100# but could easily add 200#. At that distance from the 3PH, it is sufficient ballast to offset the 410's bucket full of pretty much whatever you can put in it. Just my cheap solution. Also gives pretty good down pressure on the RB, when needed.

Tom

 

[RoyJackson]

"However, I don't think the 2210 is a big enough tractor for your needs. I think I'd be looking at a 4210 (or 3xxx series equivalent) or similar model New Holland or Kubota."

If it was one or two drives (as small as they are), the 2210 would do fine...but when one is talking about commercial use...I'm sure the 2210 is a nice tractor, but it's just not going to make the speed (of removal, then move to the next drive) that a bigger unit would.

 

[mike123]

4210 seems like a lot of tractor for small drives? Which you would gain in power you would loose in maneuverability?

 

[Lobo56]

Come on, it would take 5 minutes to do a 40' drive with a 47" blower on a 2210. Been doing it, so has JDFANATIC. My friend has a contract for snow removal in Lake George NY for 110 condo units. He’s been using two walker zero turn mowers with 48” blowers on the front and two big John Deere walk behind blower. Only takes him 5 hrs. to do all units, that’s driveways, street sidewalks and front door walks and that’s with 12” plus of snow. I made the comment to him one day why don’t you buy larger machines. He said to me I had a 755 John Deere with a woods rear blower it’s too big to maneuver in and out of close quarters.

 

[Hypernix]

You know now that I think about this, even a Craftsman with a 42" snowblower would do the job! Heck even a good shovel! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

It just depends on how well a guy wants to "equip" himself for the job he has to do! Myself I prefer to have more than not enough! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Hypernix /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[RoyJackson]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( 4210 seems like a lot of tractor for small drives? Which you would gain in power you would loose in maneuverability? )</font>

The original poster is doing commercial work. Most of the persons responding to my comment about the 2210 not being large enough to do the job seem to be taking this as a personal criticism, which it was not, of course.

The last statement in my original reply simply stated the original poster needs to assess his requirements.

Most of the plowing I see around here, if not done by truck, is done using a skid steer, BTW.

So, is the 2210 too small for his needs? I've no idea...I'm not running his business. But for the number of drives he's plowing...it may not be enough machine.

Please don't take a comment about any tractor personally. In this case, it's just an opinion.

 

[JDFANATIC]

On the major run section of my driveway, it takes three passes to clear the 9' width. This is all done at near if not at top speed (8.5 mph), then the most time consuming part takes place, the little cutting in here and there, backing up, and maneuvering into position. For me I doubt a larger blower/tractor would save any time at all. Obviously I can't see Mike's exact situation, but it would seem to me the largest tractor/blower with the most maneuverability would be the ticket. The 2210 gets the 46/47 blower. To go to the 59" you would need to get into a 3xxx or 4xxx series. Is it worth it? I can't answer that. Mike is just going to have to carefully access his particular needs. It sounds like a good problem to have! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[mike123]

Yes this is for serious commercial.
I do have a skid steer but it cannot be everywhere at once and they frown apon us using it when it is light. The JD will replace shovels and walk behind blowers. I will be getting 2 once I try the first. I thought the 2210 would be perfect for the lighter snow falls with a 96” pull blade and a quick blow after it is piled if necessary.
But the reason I posted I need to know if the front blower can go through heavier/drifted snow. I know it can but like I said there is no way I can do it at a crawl, I need to maintain a good speed or else I will never get done.
Hopefully Rae will chime in; he knows exactly what I am talking about. We get allot of wind here with our snow.
Yes the plow on a truck would be the fastest but 99% of the time we have no where to put the snow.
Thanks Guys

 

[Lobo56]

Been using my father in laws 2210 for 2 years to clear the end of my driveway after the plows have come threw 4' high or more and that's usually heavy packed wet snow. So I don’t think you going to have a problem with drifts. Knock on wood haven’t broken a shear pin yet. The 47" two stage blower has a drift cutter blade mounted on it to cut into the drift. If JDFAN can go 8.5 mph with a thrower your defiantly won’t have a problem with the 2 stage blower. Believe me that 2 stage blower can blow some serious snow and throw it far. This year I’ll be using my own 2210 with my 47” blower. No more worrying if I’m going to break someone else’s tractor, I can break my own.

 

[Ray2210]

As said before I can't speak on blowers/throwers. I can certainly attest to our weather conditions though. I think lots has been said about blowers and I am convinced on the the capability of them. As for a 96" blade........that is alot of blade for a 2210. You'd have to be doing some pretty light plowing as the snow stacks up against the blade pretty fast and if you can actually keep moving the blade will start to steer the tractor. With my 60" blade at its lowest angle it will steer the tractor like a rudder in anything very heavy or when it hits a burm on one side. You'd want to try a blade that big before you bought it. Control is greatly improved when plowing in reverse and I imagine tire and weight choices would make a difference. It sounds to me like you might want to look at something like a 4115 with similar horse power but bigger tires, split rear braking, more weight and the ability to properly handle a bigger blade. I would even question the 2210's ability to sufficiently raise an 8 foot blade high enough.
Some of those big blades are pretty tall and not really intended for a small low tractor like a 2210. Someting else to consider if you intend to use a pull behind blower is that changing implements out on the 3 pt hitch takes a few minutes and will be tougher in the cold with ice caked on all of the hardware. If choosing a 2210/2305 I'd go with a 4 ft blower and a 5 ft blade.