2210 smokes on startup

MikeFromVA · Oct 6, 2004

( I also agree completely with what another poster said about DFA. I never add fuel with out it any more. The noise reduction alone makes it worth it. )

I must have missed this - what is DFA (___ Fuel Additive)? I haven't heard of it either.

mhalla · Oct 6, 2004

( I must have missed this - what is DFA (___ Fuel Additive)? I haven't heard of it either. )

DFA = Diesel Fuel Additive

I use the Power Service brand.

Mike

PDe · Oct 6, 2004

Break-in oil should be available at your dealer. I changed the oil/filter in my 2210 at 25 hrs and refilled the crankcase with break-in oil; then at the 50 hr mark I switched to JD surpreme 15w40. At 100 hrs I may switch again to Rotella synthetic.

csmclean · Oct 6, 2004

My relatively new (a mere 8.7 hours) 790 emits a puff of blue-white smoke on first startup (or a restart if it's not been running more than 10 minutes), then clears right up. Ambient temps have been no lower than about 55 F when I've used my tractor so far.

The oil looks clean as a whistle thus far.

If it's coolish, I use the preheat for about five seconds, reduces crank time and smoke. The engine in mine is direct injected, so uses a heater element in the intake manifold, vs. individual cylinder glow plugs (the 2210 uses the Yanmar 3TNE72 engine, I think, which is indirect injection).

I've let it idle for maybe 20-30 seconds before lifting the hitch (w/ mower) or the FEL. Seems fine. Occasionally, I get a slight stumble if I advance the throttle right after startup; I suspect the engine is still too cold to efficiently burn all fuel at that point.

Craig

Docsknotinn · Oct 7, 2004

As already mentioned DFA is Diesel fuel additive. Power service is popular and inexpensive but I don't reccomend it for winter use as PS does not contain any water dispersing capabilities. I found that out this spring when I pulled a rusted fuel filter from my 2210. I switch to FPPF in the winter or primrose or Schaeffers. Anything with a water package to help with the condensation.

johndeere2210 · Oct 18, 2004

I am service manager for a John Deere dealer and proud owner of a 2210. It is inherent for any diesel engine to smoke on start up. The 2210 will smoke a little more than other engines on cold start due the unique feature of an auto bleed fuel system. This enables us to run the engine out of fuel and simply fill the tank and restart the engine with out bleeding the air out of the system. This feature however, will cause a little more smoke on cold start due to a slightly longer cranking period which puts more fuel into the cylinders. This is entirely normal. I also noticed in another discussion that some people were upset with the dealer transportation for warranty work. John Deere will not pay for transportation or service calls to perform warranty service. The dealerships in our area will transport and do service calls but that particular service is charged back to the sales department provided the machine was purchased at that dealership. This policy has been in effect for over 30 years that I know of.

On a positive note, having been around Deere equipment most of my life, the 2210 is ultimate in lawn/acreage care equipment. It is small enough to be highly manuverable and powerfull enough to handle most any task. I have a FEL, 62" MMM, 48" tiller, 50" rear blade and 60" landscape rake with
I-Match hitch.

horseman1 · Oct 18, 2004

Thanks! That makes a lot of sense to me. The other things that were recommended didnt seem to help all that much, but were very good to know and understand. When it is cold is the only time it really smokes much.

Kurt

JD2210MAN · Oct 18, 2004

When my dealer sold me a 2210, he offered free Pick-Up and Delivery for all warrenty work. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
A very good sales incentive, along with many others. I never thought for a moment that Deere would pay them back.

horseman1 · Oct 24, 2004

Sorry to bring an older post back up to the front, but I wanted to make sure that I reported back that engaging the pre-heater did make a very big difference, like Dutch and others suggested. I was doing it wrong before and did not hold the key in the "start" position. I just turned it to the "on" position before. Much less smoke and a smoother start this time.

The method I used was to leave the tractor in gear and turn the key and hold it in the start position for about 5 seconds. I released the key, waited 5 seconds and repeated the process. Put her in Nuetral and it started right up with much less smoke and a much smoother idle right off.

Thanks!

Kurt