Well if you happen to have read my other thread, I've decided to go with a ford 8n. I still like the yanmars but changed up my budget and could get alot more for the money...implements included . I appreciate all the feedback and I notice kenmac and a couple others commenting on both my threads. .....tthank you, cause I have a lot to learn. Not sure if I asked the wrong questions or not but I joined and posted similar questions on the hoye forum and got nothing but crickets. Not talking bad about that site, learned alot and purchased their book, just stating my short term experience. So your responses here have been helpful. Wish me luck cause I'll be picking up my first tractor on friday..2 days from today. Thanks again and God bless