2310D

[s_harper]

Does anyone have any information on this model of Yanmar? I have owned it for about 1 year, and it has worked very well (used about 60 hours).

What I am after is any information on cross referencing it with other models for parts and stuff. Is there a USA model using the same parts that I could just ask for when I need something?

Also, does anyone have any reliability data on this model? Any problematic parts that I need to look out for? It has the shuttle shift, which seems to mostly work fine, but looks expensive to fix if it breaks. Gear 3-1 is slow to engage for some reason, but works fine once engaged. Just looking for anyone's knowlege on this model. Thanks


Spence

 

[BruceR]

Welcome Spence,

I don't have any experience with a 2310D, but I'm sure someone here does.

Bruce

 

[Normmm]

I do not have a 2310 but I have a 2020d powershift model. I think 3-1 is your highest gear range and 1 is low on the powershift control. If my tractor engaged in high range first gear with as hard a shift as in say 1-1 the tractor woild do a wheelie every time i powershifted from nutral to high-range first. I think this is by design.

 

[Eddie]

I think on my 2020, 4 is the highest gear range.

 

[Normmm]

4th is highest range on mine also but I think 3 may be top cog on the 2310.

 

[s_harper]

Thanks for some of the insight.

The 2310D has 4 gear ranges with 3 forward gears, 1 reverse, Powershift. 4-3 appears to be only good for getting from one place to another more quickly (probably 10 mph).

Does anyone know where one can cross reference the 3 cylinder motor to JD models, or others, so I could find parts locally? Was this motor / model ever imported as a JD model, and, if so, which one? I would like to be able to just tell them I need X part for X model JD and get the part. I know I can order most anything online, but then there is down time for shipping and stuff. I would rather just find locally if possible. Anyone?


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[buppy69]

If you get the parts from JD they'll still have to be ordered.

Eugene

 

[s_harper]

Maybe so, but does the 2310D, or even just the motor, cross reference to any JD or other USA model directly?

There are many JD dealers I can physically go to. There is something to be said about talking to the parts guy about your problem. They can make recommendation and sometimes offfer insights that you just can't get on the web. Don't get me wrong, I use the web for nearly everything, including buying this tractor, but if I can reference a particular model and not drum up angst at the parts counter over Yanmar vs. JD, then I would like that information. Otherwise, I will use the web. Just asking, so if anyone knows, please tell.

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[DavesTractor]

The YM2310D is a nice tractor, it shares a lot of common parts with YM2001, YM2010, YM2020, YM2220, YM2310, YM2402, and YM2420. It is not similar to the YM2002 or 2210. The 20's and 02's have wet brakes and a spin on hydraulic filter, the 01's and 10's do not. The 01's and 02's are not power-shift, whgereas the 10's and 20's are power-shift.

As far as I know, the tractor does not cross well to any JD model, but crosses well to the Yanmar USA YM276D. There are about 5000 Yanmar parts available via JD or that cross over to JD, but that includes some general hardware bolts and nuts and stuff like that, so the real number of valuable parts is less than that, but you need to know part numbers, and that is where buying from a reputable dealer with experience becomes valuable.

Knowledge of what fits and what doesn't, and where to source parts is a "hard learned and hard earned" process. When I used to sell Yanmars I more than once ordered in some part that was non-returnable to see if it was correct. Sometimes it was, sometimes it went on the shelf....and is still on the shelf.

For example, your tachometer cable is an easy JD item. Your front axle pinion bevel gear in the YM2310D is also a JD item, but most guys don't know that and end up buying a used worn out gear for more than a new one.

So I am a little off topic. To answer your question, parts support is fairly good for your model, but it doesn't cross to any JD model. Engine parts are some of the easiest, so that just isn't a worry on these.

Lastly, get a good low hour unreconditioned unit. You will know what you bought and you won't need much. Maybe a seal or two, perhaps a voltage regulator or one of the odd headlight bulbs, but these are easily available through the many guys that post regularly in this forum. Len and Hoye's come quickly to mind, LMTC has rollbars for these now (thanks Wayne), Ernie has forgotten more that I ever knew and Buck at EFC is an amazing resource. The list goes on.

 

[s_harper]

Dave,

Thank you very much for the valuable information. That is what I was hoping someone would already know.

I already own the tractor - about 1 year. I have only owned one tractor, and I didn't even know how to drive it when I bought it. Stupid as it sounds now, I bought the thing sight unseen from a guy over the internet in a different state, and gave him money up front for it. Knowing nothing, I did in fact buy a reconditioned unit from RCO tractor in Texas. I do think, now, that it was reconditioned in Vietnam, but I don't know that for certain. Of course, the tractor "looked" brand new when I received it with no hours on the meter. That seemed good to me in the beginning, but I have since learned what that means.

I have had a few issues with it, but, thankfully no major ones yet. The front wheel hubs leaked badly and required complete rebuild. The bolts used to assemble them were very low grade and constantly worked themselves out. I rebuilt with grade 8 stuff and loctite, and they haven't leaked since. I also lost a radiator, which was replaced by a new one from RCO under the warranty, no problems getting them to cover it.

If I ever buy another tractor, I will know more about what to look for. In the mean time, I have worked this tractor nearly 60 hours since I bought it, and it appears to be a good, durable unit. The work has not been easy. I am landscaping my 1 acre yard, which slopes about 30 feet from front to back. A lot of those hours right now have been FEL work with a fair amount of box blade work. Back and forth contouring the land and, now, spreading lots of topsoil.

Thanks again for the information. If anyone else knows anything of this 2310d unit, I am all ears.


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[clifst2310]

The 2310D is almost exactally the same as the Yanmar 276D which was a US import model and parts for the 276D are available, plus the Maintainence and operators manuels are also available and in english. I have used the maintainence amnual to fix a headgasket and bad throwout bearing.

 

[s_harper]

Thank you very much for that tidbit. I don't have any known mechanical troubles with the tractor right now, but it is always good to know what options are out there.

Do you, or anyone, know the exact model number or description for the motor and/or tranny - the big parts? I know that the tranny is a Powershift and the motor is 3 cylinder, 28 horsepower, but I imagine that the tranny and the motor both come in different model designations for different trators and horsepowers. For instance, say I lose an injector and need one fast. I go to the JD dealer here locally, and ask for what? I know they used my YM motor in some of their models, and if I could just tell them a certain model or even motor or tranny number, then they would get me the correct part without questioning my tractor.

Thanks to everyone for previous and forthcoming advice.


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[kayssupply]

From what I have heard here on this board, John Deere has told the older model customers to go to Yanmar for engine parts.

 

[s_harper]

I see. Well, that is somewhat ironic isn't it, seeing how they made them in the first place?

(stands on soapbox)
These compact tractors form a quirky little industry. Lots and lots of brand names, made by lots and lots of different people using lots and lots of different model numbers to describe the same thing. The real problem is that no one wants to help you out unless you have their specific brand and model. I kind of understand that as they want you to buy it from them, but refusing to sell you a part isn't going to make you sell your current tractor and buy theirs, is it? All it does is take away a part sale from them. Seems counterproductive to me.
(steps down from soapbox)

I will ask for Yanmar 276D parts if at a local dealer and try to order as many as I can for my 2310D online. I know I can get nearly everything online, but just wanted local options if I get in a pinch.

I am still learning about how this grey market works, so I appreciate all of the advice and information. If anyone still has anything to add, I would be grateful. An "american" engine and/or tranny model number might be helpful at a local dealer, so if anyone knows that, that would be great. Thanks again.


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[greatrandini]

Okay, John Deere did not make Yanmar tractors. Yanmar made Yanmar tractors. Yanmar also made some John Deere tractors for John Deere. It is not in Yanmar's or JD's best interest at this time to supply you with parts for a 30 year old tractor which was not intended to be sold in America. I won't speculate on all the reasons why they think that but that is what they think. Some JD dealers will sell you parts and even help you match them up. The one that is closest to me won't help you if you tell them you have a Yanmar. Yanmar USA did sell some tractors new in the USA. They still supply parts for them. So if you know the part number from one of them you can get parts from an authorized Yanma USA parts dealer.

 

[s_harper]

What I said may not have come across correctly. I know that Yanmar made JD tractors, at least for a while, and that they make their own stuff, as well. That is what the basis of this entire question has been.

I have since learned that the YM276D, American import Yanmar, is probably the closest legally imported model to my 2310D. I have also learned that there really wasn't ever a direct JD model like mine sold, but my 2310D may share some parts with various JD models from that time. Apparently, JD is now referring people with their older models directly to Yanmar for parts support, which I find ironic, since Yanmar made them to begin with. I don't think JD wanted people to really know that in the beginning. That is what is ironic.

Anyhow, this gets more interesting as it goes. Bring on more tidbits if you have them. Thanks again.


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[Eddie]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have since learned that the YM276D, American import Yanmar, is probably the closest legally imported model to my 2310D. )</font>

Even Gray Market tractors are "legally imported."

 

[s_harper]

Correct. I should have probably said "factory imported model".


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[clifst2310]

The only parts I have found to actually cross over directaly are the KEY and the banjo bolts that hold the diesel injector lines on to the injectors themselves. The clutch and pressure plate I had rebuilt at a local rebuilder, and found out the clutch was for a mitsubishi and the throw out bearing came fron toyota if I remember right, but do not know which models. I use local rebuilders if at all possible because of the good workmanship I get and the reliability I have had(it is a bunch of work to split a tractor) so the slightly higher expense is worth it to me. I also have gotten parts from Lens Shaffer(SP?) and Tom Fredricks Dad, I live close to him and bought my Yanny from him. Was very satisfied by both...

 

[s_harper]

Clifst2130,

That is good stuff to know. I am really hoping to never have to do major work on the tractor, but little bits of information like these make it easier if anything ever goes wrong.

If I have to take it to a local mechanic for work, it would be nice, and quicker, to find some local parts if possible that would work. Knowing which specific parts to ask for makes it even easier.

Thanks for the advice. Keep it coming if anyone knows more.


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