i went ahead and joined the world of tractors. My Kioti 2510 will be here by the end of the week. Getting a tooth bar for the FEL, tires are being loaded, and I'm still shopping for a box scrape, a rake and a rotary mower. Will try to get those through a farm auction or Craigslist. What sold me on the Kioti was ground clearance, good overall specs and weight, and a dealer who appears good to work with and not BS spewing as a few of the others were. I was told TYM was going out of business, that LS has nothing to do with New Holland, that this brand and the other are junk made from Chinese parts. Be nice if they could sell on the basis of what they have and not what is wrong with the others. I know there have to be some good used machines out there but all in all, given what I need, prices new and used, and my being a tractor virgin this seemed to be a good way to go. I won't put tons of hours on it so it should be in the family a long time. Hey 747driver I'm not all that far from you in N. GA