2720 vs 3120

   / 2720 vs 3120 #21  
JDGREEN4ME said:
Concerned somewhat about the "tipping" issue I have seen raised with the bigger tractor but on the other hand I haven't read anywhere where they are tipping over all the time either.

I read here about the "tippy" factor for the 3x20 series before my purchase. Not that many hills where I mow, except for one area that is actually part of the regional road allowance - but I cut the grass. I suspect the large MMM mower adds to stability and I usually have the FEL frame, at least, installed - no loaded tires.

Only comment I can make on the "tippy" factor is my Craftsman Garden Tractor with 54" deck, for me, actually feels more "tippy" than the JD 3320 when mowing identical places.
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #22  
The 3x20 series does feel 'tippy' and you can get into trouble if you try. Especially with improper ballast. I have 6" wheel extensions on R3's on my 3720 cab (6" each side) and that makes me 'feel' a lot better (I'm running the Narrow position - about 66" wide now). I didn't have them on my 3320 with R4's but the 3720 cab is a lot more top heavy. I had it up on two and even 1 (pre wheel extensions) wheel a couple of times when it was brand new with unloaded tires but an 800lb stump grinder on the back for ballast.

Sideways on hills still feels weird but it's more stable than it feels and I also do have a tiltmeter which helps.
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #23  
orlo said:
The 3x20 series does feel 'tippy' and you can get into trouble if you try. Especially with improper ballast. I have 6" wheel extensions on R3's on my 3720 cab (6" each side) and that makes me 'feel' a lot better (I'm running the Narrow position - about 66" wide now). I didn't have them on my 3320 with R4's but the 3720 cab is a lot more top heavy. I had it up on two and even 1 (pre wheel extensions) wheel a couple of times when it was brand new with unloaded tires but an 800lb stump grinder on the back for ballast.

Sideways on hills still feels weird but it's more stable than it feels and I also do have a tiltmeter which helps.
Orlo; I will be going to extensions if the Turf specials I have do not fit with my MMM. without extenders, they can get the width out to 66" also as they did on my 4310. And it was very stable without the tires being loaded. I am keeping my fingers crossed that I can get all 4 of my Turf Specials on without going to hub extenders.
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #24  
Got to see the 2720's yesterday. My dealer has 2 sitting out front. There was a 2320 next to them, wished it was a 2520 so I could do a size comparo. Still thinking about a 3x20 series...
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #25  
The 2520 and the 2720 are the same size, just different engines. I looked at them at my dealer, for some reason the 2520 still had the old style arms on the 3pt. and the 2720 had the new. JC
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #26  
I saw the new arms. My 2520 was supposed to be upgraded to the new style yesterday. I'll post some pics when it's done.
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #27  
I have owned three of them, and have not found that the 3000 series machines are particularly tippy. I will say they are not as stable as the 4000 series machines, nor do they feel as stable as the 2000 series machines, particularly the 2520 styled ones. One can, though, look at the design of the 3000 series and see why they might not be as stable as some other JD offerings. When I was looking at tractors in the very beginning I was taping off areas in my garage to estimate space taken by both a 4310 and a then 4115. They were extremely close in actual tracking size, but the 4115 was much lower and lighter. This has carried over to the new models also. My only complaint noted on my 3000 series machines has been that they inchwormed a good bit when going down hills with a loaded bucket and that they were prone to lifting rear wheels when transitioning down into gullies, etc., or into soft ground. This, to me, was more a function of wheelbase more than width or height. It was remedied some by adding ballast, but not eliminated. Although I have never owned a cab tractor, I suspect this problem would be exaggerated in that setting. I have never been much of a wheel spacer fan, but I am sure that would have some positive impact. Interestingly, this seems to defeat at least some of the tractor's "compactness" and makes a move to a 4000 series for size reasons more appealing.

John M
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #28  
jcmseven said:
I have owned three of them, and have not found that the 3000 series machines are particularly tippy. I will say they are not as stable as the 4000 series machines, nor do they feel as stable as the 2000 series machines, particularly the 2520 styled ones. One can, though, look at the design of the 3000 series and see why they might not be as stable as some other JD offerings. When I was looking at tractors in the very beginning I was taping off areas in my garage to estimate space taken by both a 4310 and a then 4115. They were extremely close in actual tracking size, but the 4115 was much lower and lighter. This has carried over to the new models also. My only complaint noted on my 3000 series machines has been that they inchwormed a good bit when going down hills with a loaded bucket and that they were prone to lifting rear wheels when transitioning down into gullies, etc., or into soft ground. This, to me, was more a function of wheelbase more than width or height. It was remedied some by adding ballast, but not eliminated. Although I have never owned a cab tractor, I suspect this problem would be exaggerated in that setting. I have never been much of a wheel spacer fan, but I am sure that would have some positive impact. Interestingly, this seems to defeat at least some of the tractor's "compactness" and makes a move to a 4000 series for size reasons more appealing.

John M

The wheelbase of my former 4310 was 68", so is my 3520 Cab. However the 3x20 series is a few inches taller than the 4310. With the spacers, you get a wider stance but you are no where near as tall as a 4x20 series uit. With a cab on them, sitting next to a 3x20 series, they look quite a bit bigger, if you are standing next to them both. However II, my newly acquired used GX255 is way more stable on slopes than any of the 4x00 series, the 4x20 series, the 3x20 series, and even the 2x20 series. now all that low cg could change big time is a bug lands on my fender or i get stuck in a wad of gum and try to use traction control to get out of it!:eek: Boy this unit seems lie a go kart!:) Can't wait to get the 3520 outta the shop!
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #29  
OBTW, my former 2003 4310 with the Turf specials on it, was a lot more stable on my slopes than was my former 2001 JD 4100.
 
   / 2720 vs 3120 #30  
RollTideRam said:
The 2520 and the 2720 are the same size, just different engines. I looked at them at my dealer, for some reason the 2520 still had the old style arms on the 3pt. and the 2720 had the new. JC

produced when they were exclusively installing the older arms.
 

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