3 diesel choices at local station

[WM75Guy]

Diesel Fuel Information, Grades - Exxon.com

Forgot this one.

Keep buying Exxon/Mobil products, as a shareholder I like my stock dividend. :thumbsup:

 

[WM75Guy]

1*I don''t see how this is possible as all production was switched over to ULSD back in 2010.
14*That's no longer so because all fuel was converted to ULSD back in 2010.
15*No longer true because of the 2010 change over to ULSD .
16*There is no heading oil VS off road anymore because of the switch over to ULSD in 2010.
17* More accurately winterized Is simply ULSD that was treated with additives .
18*I think your confusing Kero with diesel
There is nol longer a #1 and #2 designation .
There is just ULSD and Kero.
101* This says it all : The document has been out of date since 2010 therefore the contents of this abstract are not accurate, complete or up to date.
102*All this is out dated too:
You have also misinterpreted the info by implying the fuel was developed to meet the requirements of the engines when in fact it was just the other way around.
The engines had to be modified to run on the fuel that the EPA and the tree huggers dictated.
19*That's because outdated post like yours and repowells keep pushing the myths old wives tales and half truths. Even after that all ended in 2010*.
20*No he did not ; All that did was to help keep stirring the rumors and misconceptions.
21*That not true today .Things have changed.
22*Taxes and or the EPA is all it's about .
23*So does off road and Home heating oil Because it's all been 15ppm of sulfur since the switch over in 2010.
24*All diesel on and off road is ULSD 15ppm of sulfur width no difference in sulfur cetane and detergency packages.
27*They only make one fuel .
34*He was far from correct.

I apologize to the rest of the TBN members for bumping this up but since LBrown59 made the credibility of myself and others that posted in this thread an issue I am still waiting for his response. Having 16,000 + posts does not give one a free pass to pass off his incorrect information as gospel and damage the credibility of others.

1. The ASTM D975 - 11 Standard Specification for Diesel Fuel Oils is the current standard. This is the 2011 edition and is not out of date as all 7 grades are still in use.

ASTM D975 - 11 Standard Specification for Diesel Fuel Oils

2. Diesel is still refined, blended and sold at all three levels of sulfur.

U.S. Total Weekly Refiner & Blender Net Production

3. Diesel #1 and #2 are still produced. I called ExxonMobil and asked if both grades are produced. They are produced but diesel #1 is usually only available from a distributor, not a retail operation.

Diesel Fuel Information, Grades - Exxon.com

4. ULSD is not the only one produced since 2010, it is the only one allowed for road use. Big difference. It is mandated for most but not all off-road use. LSD is allowed for locomotives and and HSD is allowed for marine use per the EPA.

Diesel Fuel | Fuels and Fuel Additives | US EPA

I would appreciate a response.

 

[smfcpacfp]

I ignore posts by LBrown unless I need a laugh. I am never sure if he is serious, or just joking, I just assume he is being humorous.

 

[John Morgan]

I just completed a 3 day course where we spent an entire day on fuel, fuel additives, storage tank management, sampling, testing, and remediation. I believe these post just proved my original comment about the level of confusion regarding fuels and oils.

 

[aczlan]

4. ULSD is not the only one produced since 2010, it is the only one allowed for road use. Big difference. It is mandated for most but not all off-road use. LSD is allowed for locomotives and and HSD is allowed for marine use per the EPA.
Diesel Fuel | Fuels and Fuel Additives | US EPA
I would appreciate a response.

So, other than those who have access to fuel intended for locomotives or large boats, who can get 15ppm+ diesel?
If that is the only place you can get that fuel, what he said is correct for 99% of people in the US.

I agree on the #1 vs #2, but fuel with more than 15ppm is not generally available to end end user.

Aaron Z

 

[dmccarty]

So, other than those who have access to fuel intended for locomotives or large boats, who can get 15ppm+ diesel?
If that is the only place you can get that fuel, what he said is correct for 99% of people in the US.

I agree on the #1 vs #2, but fuel with more than 15ppm is not generally available to end end user.

Aaron Z

Yeppers.

Non of the fuel stations I use sell off road diesel. Seems like I did see one somewhere local but I sure do not remember their location. I can only think of a couple places that have Kerosene.

The only way I could get off road is from a fuel supplier delivered to my place. I would be shocked if he delivered something beside ULSD.

Later,
Dan

 

[ATP]

Man, What a thread.....

i wasn't sure before.,,,, def not sure now.

 

[3930dave]

Man, What a thread.....

i wasn't sure before.,,,, def not sure now.

DEF is Diesel Exhaust Fluid - don't put it in the fuel tank ! (Just joking ).

If you burn a lot of diesel, or ONLY own off-road diesel equipment, then it makes sense to me to buy off-road fuel.

I usually keep 40 Litres of extra diesel on hand. With my interactions with Murphy, I'd end up in a road-check for tax, JUST after dumping 20 Litres of off-road into my nearly empty road vehicle tank.

In Ontario (Canada), I never have to worry about buying road diesel - virtually every fuel station here has a diesel pump. Got educated real quick, driving my van in Upstate NY. Diesel is scarce there, so I now carry an extra diesel can with me in the van.

Rgds, D.

 

[GFL]

I hope this reply is out of line. I have a 2 gallon container of kerosene that I won't be using. Is it ok to burn kerosene in a diesel engine? If have used it in a home furnace without ill effects, but I don't know how it will effect a diesel tractor. I recently purchased a Kubota B3300SU .

Thanks,
Gary

 

[3930dave]

Gary - Old Timers used to run Old (format) Kerosene in Old (Mechanical Injection) Diesels, at least in a pinch. That was Back When.

I don't know enough about your 'bota (tank capacity, fuel injection type) to make a meaningful comment in your case. If your tractor is new(ish), I'd vote No.

If you don't get a better answer in this thread, try the Kubota forum on here.

Rgds, D.