Price Check $ 33000 new FOTON 70Hp 4WD with AUS is this a good deal?
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coondle
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Another difference between jurisdictions. A mate of mine bought a 70hp USA brand tractor with cab and level lift FEL , cost here in the order of $50 to $60K compared with a similar hp and size chinese tractor with ROPS (not cab) and level lift FEL of sub $33K. One tractor made in China and the other in Eastern Europe. Another well known US based brand sells tractors here that are made in India. Mexico and Brazil make some "big-name" tractors for sale in the US. We are now in a global manufacturing market and sales market, that is a fact.
In an earlier post I mentioned that horsepower is now not the only way to gauge a tractor's relative size. A neighbour, impressed by the performance of my Fotons ( he had driven the smaller 504) went and bought a 55hp tractor with cab and loader for about $22K landed but found it to be a little light for handling a 5x4 cereal hay roll whereas my 604 (60 hp) easily handles two rolls the same size, in fact baled by that neighbour. The difference is that his 55 hp tractor is more a compact, ie shorter wheelbase, narrower track, smaller wheel size and altogether lighter.
The Chinese tractors have not yet evolved a dealer network here, and most dealers are but trying to break into the market. One notable exception is Mahindra that has been taken on by a dealer that handles a US Branded tractor. Not even the Japanese or European tractors have a widespread dealer base here, there are regional niches but not really statewide. Given that this State is 1 million sq miles and a population of only 2.3 million most of whom (80%) live within a 30 mile wide coastal strip from 40 miles north of Perth to 200 miles South of Perth, there are enormous challenges in providing dealer services.
Our market is minuscule on the world stage but has manufacturers from Europe, Asia, India, and the US all vying for market share.
In an earlier post I mentioned that horsepower is now not the only way to gauge a tractor's relative size. A neighbour, impressed by the performance of my Fotons ( he had driven the smaller 504) went and bought a 55hp tractor with cab and loader for about $22K landed but found it to be a little light for handling a 5x4 cereal hay roll whereas my 604 (60 hp) easily handles two rolls the same size, in fact baled by that neighbour. The difference is that his 55 hp tractor is more a compact, ie shorter wheelbase, narrower track, smaller wheel size and altogether lighter.
The Chinese tractors have not yet evolved a dealer network here, and most dealers are but trying to break into the market. One notable exception is Mahindra that has been taken on by a dealer that handles a US Branded tractor. Not even the Japanese or European tractors have a widespread dealer base here, there are regional niches but not really statewide. Given that this State is 1 million sq miles and a population of only 2.3 million most of whom (80%) live within a 30 mile wide coastal strip from 40 miles north of Perth to 200 miles South of Perth, there are enormous challenges in providing dealer services.
Our market is minuscule on the world stage but has manufacturers from Europe, Asia, India, and the US all vying for market share.
Foton not happy
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If i had have know what Fotons were like before i had actually purchased one......i would have bought a brand name!
The things are a nightmare! poor quality is an understatement, i had some work done on mine because the 3PL stopped working (mine has a cab) and for them to actually get the lift cover off, the have to disconnect everything that is connected to the Cab and actually lift/remove the cab so they can get the bolts out, as the bolts are extremely long and they sit right over the cab.
Massive job to fix and massive dollars to fix.
The things are a nightmare! poor quality is an understatement, i had some work done on mine because the 3PL stopped working (mine has a cab) and for them to actually get the lift cover off, the have to disconnect everything that is connected to the Cab and actually lift/remove the cab so they can get the bolts out, as the bolts are extremely long and they sit right over the cab.
Massive job to fix and massive dollars to fix.
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G'day I am currently looking at this one, it is looking ok at the moment, let me know your thoughts, Cheers
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Sawyer Rob
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My thought's are, you get the REST OF THE BILL after you get it home and put some hours on it... lol
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John Deere are selling very well in Chinese market, mainly in the market for professional farmer tractor above 100HP.
For the middle range tractor, the competition is really tough, YTO, Foton, Dongfeng are the top 3 competitors against John Deere. John Deere doesn't play well in this range, their tractor price is too high, also the after sale price is too high.
Only professional farmer own tractor in China. There is no market for small compact tractor in China.
Chinese tractor almost quit US market, except Minnesota. I think US customers are getting rich and willing to pay more for brand tractor.
For the middle range tractor, the competition is really tough, YTO, Foton, Dongfeng are the top 3 competitors against John Deere. John Deere doesn't play well in this range, their tractor price is too high, also the after sale price is too high.
Only professional farmer own tractor in China. There is no market for small compact tractor in China.
Chinese tractor almost quit US market, except Minnesota. I think US customers are getting rich and willing to pay more for brand tractor.