378 years of family farming!!!

[keegs]

It seems to me many consumers have a choice whether to buy organic or not. While organics are offered in some regular supermarkets here my guess is most are sold through farmers markets and the high end food chains like Whole Foods and Wegmens. It's pricey stuff.

I also think the vast majority of agricultural products aren't sold directly to the consumer but rather to food processors who, as I understand it from the potato (am I missing a trailing e? ) farmers by me, define strict production and storage requirements. I don't know to what degree FDA regulations factor into those requirements though.

Those same requirements likely exist in the case of meat producers/processors and again extend to expensive storage facilities.

 

[keegs]

+1 Yeah, even 200+ more years of lawmaking cannot eliminate that.

likely not..but I wouldn't stop supporting cops because there's crime or fireman because there're fires.

 

[nwbearcat]

One other point I'd make...it is not accurate to assume that since you bought something directly from a farmer or at a farmer's market that it is organic, or non-gmo, or anything beyond what you can see on the outside. As I've said, my FIL raises and sells freezer beef direct to the consumer, but he is not organic. Many sell veggies at roadside markets, but they're not organic. That's another step that alot don't take.

 

[DocHeb]

I'm not a tax expert, but my understanding is that, if they die in 2010 they can pass it on to their children without an estate tax. After 2011, their heirs would be taxed at 55% - so they will need to come up with ~$1.8 Million just to pay the estate taxes.

 

[RadarTech]

I'm not a tax expert, but my understanding is that, if they die in 2010 they can pass it on to their children without an estate tax. After 2011, their heirs would be taxed at 55% - so they will need to come up with ~1.8 Million to pay the taxes.

That is how I understood it too..
The only exception I see is if the property was in multiple names, then it is shared property and technically exempt..

J

 

[keegs]

I'm not a tax expert, but my understanding is that, if they die in 2010 they can pass it on to their children without an estate tax. After 2011, their heirs would be taxed at 55% - so they will need to come up with ~$1.8 Million just to pay the estate taxes.

If the farm sells for the asking price of $3.3 million, whether it's sold in 2011 or 2010, there will be no estate tax due.

 

[jinjimbob]

Didn't this guy take a large loan against his farm? If so, he can't complain about his situation.

 

[nwbearcat]

http://www.elanco.com/images/Food-Economics-and-Consumer-Choice-White-Paper.pdf

"Backyard vegetable gardens are fine. So are organics … But solutions to the global food crisis will come from big business, genetically engineered crops and large-scale farms." *Source: Jason Clay, World WIldlife Fund, Food-Economics-and-Consumer-Choice April 2010

DTN/The Progressive Farmer: Agriculture Markets, News and Weather

 

[Obed]

http://www.elanco.com/images/Food-Economics-and-Consumer-Choice-White-Paper.pdf

"Backyard vegetable gardens are fine. So are organics But solutions to the global food crisis will come from big business, genetically engineered crops and large-scale farms." *Source: Jason Clay, World WIldlife Fund, Food-Economics-and-Consumer-Choice April 2010

DTN/The Progressive Farmer: Agriculture Markets, News and Weather

nwbearcat, I and a lot of other people are not against large-scale farms. I'm just against the government passing regulations that make it hard for small farms to compete against the big farms, thus ensuring the small farms disappear. I want to be able to choose whether I buy my meat from a small farmer or from Kroger. I should be able to buy as little as one pound of meat from a small local farmer. The government doesn't want me to have that choice.

The government beaurocrats want to dictate to me what is safe and what is not. I would rather be able to choose myself. Unfortunately, the government choice typically involves growth hormones, antibiotics, and poisonous chemicals. So, I'm not convinced that the government regulations are really making the food supply more healthy. The small farmer doesn't need to inject his cattle with growth hormones and fill his pigs and chickens with antibiotics if his animals are not raised indoors in overcrowded environments. But regulating the small farmer out of the market by not letting him sell his meat to his neighbor takes a potentially healthier choice away from the public.

So we go to Kroger and get meat that we have no idea who raised it or what they added to it. If I could buy my meat from my neighbor, it would be possible for me to get a good idea as to how the animals were raised and allow me to make an informed choice as to where to buy my meat. And if the government keeps adding more and more regulations, even the large-scale farms may suffer and cause Kroger to sell meat that came from China; who knows what will be in meat shipped from China.

Obed

 

[MossRoad]

All you have to do is find someone to raise the beef for you, then find a butcher shop that will kill and process if for you. They are around. You just have to look for them.