3PH arms hit rear tires

beenthere · May 16, 2006

The chains for holding the arms are usually positioned such that they do not tighten as the arms are raised, but sometimes the location point on the axle might be slightly out of 'center' with the pivot point of the arms. If so, a very slight tightening will happen. The earlier suggestion to snug them up with the implement (attachment) in the raised position should work for correct adjustment.

For the original poster, the attachment will not swing or sway back and forth if the sway chains are adjusted snug. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Unless someone has removed them. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

beenthere · May 16, 2006

The chains for holding the arms are usually positioned such that they do not tighten as the arms are raised, but sometimes the location point on the axle might be slightly out of 'center' with the pivot point of the arms. If so, a very slight tightening will happen. The earlier suggestion to snug them up with the implement (attachment) in the raised position should work for correct adjustment.

For the original poster, the attachment will not swing or sway back and forth if the sway chains are adjusted snug. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Unless someone has removed them. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Freds · May 17, 2006

Here's a really dumb question.....
Do JD's have a brand specific amount of side to side "play" an implement is supposed to have? I guess I don't see why adjusting the sway chains so a 3ph attachment doesn't rub is brand specific and this thread got moved. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I've never been to the "Green" forum before /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Freds · May 17, 2006

Here's a really dumb question.....
Do JD's have a brand specific amount of side to side "play" an implement is supposed to have? I guess I don't see why adjusting the sway chains so a 3ph attachment doesn't rub is brand specific and this thread got moved. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I've never been to the "Green" forum before /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

RollTideRam · May 17, 2006

I thought I had this problem solved myself. I had the same problem when using a box blade. Centered the box, and got the chains tight and fixed it. But I have since installed a KK yard rake. I can't get the arms to squeeze together enough to eliminate tire rub. It only rubs when lifted all the way and I am turning. When I installed the rake, my arms barely go on enough to get the pins in. They still have about 1.5 inches of play between the pin and the implement. JC

RollTideRam · May 17, 2006

I thought I had this problem solved myself. I had the same problem when using a box blade. Centered the box, and got the chains tight and fixed it. But I have since installed a KK yard rake. I can't get the arms to squeeze together enough to eliminate tire rub. It only rubs when lifted all the way and I am turning. When I installed the rake, my arms barely go on enough to get the pins in. They still have about 1.5 inches of play between the pin and the implement. JC

JerryG · May 17, 2006

<font color="blue"> The chains for holding the arms are usually positioned such that they do not tighten as the arms are raised, but sometimes the location point on the axle might be slightly out of 'center' with the pivot point of the arms. If so, a very slight tightening will happen. The earlier suggestion to snug them up with the implement (attachment) in the raised position should work for correct adjustment.
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That is exactly right. I have seen tractors that had the front attachment point for the chains and the lower links off center. This misalignment can bend the brackets and / or damage the links when the implement is raised. At the very least it would put a real bind on the entire three point. If you aren't sure if this centerline of the chains and links are on center, don't take all of the slack out of the chains until you have raised the implement all the way up to check. BTW, even if the are centered, just smug the chains don’t really tighten them real tight.

JerryG · May 17, 2006

<font color="blue"> The chains for holding the arms are usually positioned such that they do not tighten as the arms are raised, but sometimes the location point on the axle might be slightly out of 'center' with the pivot point of the arms. If so, a very slight tightening will happen. The earlier suggestion to snug them up with the implement (attachment) in the raised position should work for correct adjustment.
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That is exactly right. I have seen tractors that had the front attachment point for the chains and the lower links off center. This misalignment can bend the brackets and / or damage the links when the implement is raised. At the very least it would put a real bind on the entire three point. If you aren't sure if this centerline of the chains and links are on center, don't take all of the slack out of the chains until you have raised the implement all the way up to check. BTW, even if the are centered, just smug the chains don’t really tighten them real tight.

RalphVa · May 17, 2006

You HAVE to tighten those turnbuckles. To make it easier, throw away any of those tiny cotter pins that they came with. I just use tension cords from the buckle to a hole in my TOPS to keep them in place. A couple days ago, when I was brush hogging one of those tension cords got knocked off the buckle for the first time ever, and the turnbuckle turned loose. Normally, they stay tight and the implement does not budge from side to side.

Ralph

RalphVa · May 17, 2006

You HAVE to tighten those turnbuckles. To make it easier, throw away any of those tiny cotter pins that they came with. I just use tension cords from the buckle to a hole in my TOPS to keep them in place. A couple days ago, when I was brush hogging one of those tension cords got knocked off the buckle for the first time ever, and the turnbuckle turned loose. Normally, they stay tight and the implement does not budge from side to side.

Ralph