Grading 4 in 1 bucket or regular bucket and blade

tracdoc · Nov 1, 2004

( How is the Robin engine? I do like the Kohler engine, lots of repair places in my area

As for snow, each year is different some years we can get alot of snow but not like the UP

KC )

Your question suggests that you are thinking that the engine manufacturer is different for the 422 vs the 425. My apologies if I am mistaken. The 425s up until around the Summer 2004 run of manufacture, did have the Kohler engine. Now, however, BOTH the 422 and the current generation 425 models use a Robin-Subaru powerplant. The Robin, imho, is a strong and reliable powerplant. To quote Jack Gawecki, who has been tuned in to the PT Forum and who posts here himself:
( According to the EPA regulations we are requried to stand behind 3000 operating hrs. on the engine, but that doesn't mean that the engine will fail after this time. I was discussing severe wear of parts with a customer in Alabama that had our engine on another hydraulic application tractor. With over 6400 hrs. within a year and a half, he called me demanding warranty on the wear of rings and some other parts, I've declined it, telling him that he's definately is getting his money's worth. Regards, Jack Gawecki, Robin America, Inc., Technical Support Dept., 800-277-6246 )

The only shortfall as I see it with the Robin is the service network. However, under Jack's leadership, that has been expanding by leaps and bounds, especially over the last year or so. Bottom line, 422 and 425 both use Robin, so that should help to make choosing one easier, since engine manufacturer is no longer a factor.

Hope that helps...

BobRip · Nov 1, 2004

I have a 422 and love it, but a little more power and low end torgue on the wheel motors would really be nice. Get the right base machine (425) and delay on the attachments.

pajoube · Nov 1, 2004

I really don't think the 4 n 1 is a good snow mover unlesss you have extra time to spend. Opening the jaws and using it as an edge to push snow will work with low snow fall amounts but anything larger and it would go over the lip. Using the bucket in the closed position will push snow well but does not have width. Hence the longer time required to move snow.
PJ

kcook · Nov 1, 2004

( ( How is the Robin engine? I do like the Kohler engine, lots of repair places in my area

As for snow, each year is different some years we can get alot of snow but not like the UP

KC )

Your question suggests that you are thinking that the engine manufacturer is different for the 422 vs the 425. My apologies if I am mistaken. The 425s up until around the Summer 2004 run of manufacture, did have the Kohler engine. Now, however, BOTH the 422 and the current generation 425 models use a Robin-Subaru powerplant. The Robin, imho, is a strong and reliable powerplant. To quote Jack Gawecki, who has been tuned in to the PT Forum and who posts here himself:
( According to the EPA regulations we are requried to stand behind 3000 operating hrs. on the engine, but that doesn't mean that the engine will fail after this time. I was discussing severe wear of parts with a customer in Alabama that had our engine on another hydraulic application tractor. With over 6400 hrs. within a year and a half, he called me demanding warranty on the wear of rings and some other parts, I've declined it, telling him that he's definately is getting his money's worth. Regards, Jack Gawecki, Robin America, Inc., Technical Support Dept., 800-277-6246 )

The only shortfall as I see it with the Robin is the service network. However, under Jack's leadership, that has been expanding by leaps and bounds, especially over the last year or so. Bottom line, 422 and 425 both use Robin, so that should help to make choosing one easier, since engine manufacturer is no longer a factor.

Hope that helps...
)

It looks like I can get service work done in Jackson MI, I am going to try them both out for sure

Im starting to lean away from the 4 in 1 bucket now

KC