4100 Operating Manual? softcopy? rear wheel?

[coloradotrout]

JD posts the 4110 manual online. I picked up a used 4100 and would like to have that flavor if possible.

Also.. the rear tires were installed with the valve stem "out". On the 4110, that is suppose to be the "wide" setting. On the 4100 that appears to be the "narrow" setting. So I've swapped tires - now valve stem to the 'inside' - they are wider. Is that OK? Any issues with doing that?

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Enjoy!!!

4100 manual

I'd print this out, it might disappear from the site...

 

[coloradotrout]

Excellent!!! Thanks. A quickt cut/paste to Word, and I'll have my own copy.

Interesting.. that manual says the R4s cannot be reversed. Hmmm.. with the valve stems out, the rear wheels are about 34.7 inches centerline apart as it states. But if I put the stems in, then I get another 3 inches of seperation, or about 37.5 inches. I wonder why the manual says only R1s can be changed and not the R4s? Load issues maybe? Added wear to the axles?

 

[rockyridgefarm]

I dunno, but there can also be compatilbility issues...

With Luck, someone smart (like ol' Dutch uh-hem..) will chime in with a SMART answer... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Hypernix]

I'm just guessing but the MMM may not fit or may rub against the tires. My turfs have the valve stem inside and if I'm not mistaken it is the wide setup...

Hypernix

Ho yeah this is on a 41110.

Hypernix

 

[rmonio]

Rockyridge -

How did you manage to find the on-line version of the 4100 manual when the website doesn't have a "view" for it?

I'd like to get my hands on an on-line version of the 4600 if I could... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

-Bob

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Hi Bob! How've you been?!

here is the 4600 manual.

another poster, cef2lion, showed me where to find them. Glad we could help!

 

[coloradotrout]

Right now all I have attached is the FEL and 4' box blade. In the "stem out" position, the 3 pt bars are rubbing the tires. The metal is worn away about 1/8" or so. In the "stem in" position I have 37.5" of space compared to 34.5". The manual says R4s cannot be swapped, but it would seem to be OK. Could rear axle, gears, or bearings be overloaded maybe? That's 1.5" of lever arm hanging out further?

 

[thebigc]

I've had my R4's flipped to the wide stance, stems in, since I've owned it (7/98) and haven't experienced any problems at all. What I have experienced is better stability on slopes and easier 3PH access.

 

[coloradotrout]

Thanks for that post. Sounds like MMM fits fine in the "wide" stance. The front wheels look to be mounted in the middle of the wheel, so no advantage one way or the other.

All I plan to run for now is my FEL and boxblade. Maybe someday if my lawn tractor poops out, I'll get the MMM or rear mower.

HOw many hours on your '98? Anything major to keep an eye on?

 

[rmonio]

Thanks, RockyRidge! This is fantastic!

To answer your question, I've been busier than ever and I don't get the chance to read TBN as much as I used to - but this thread definately caught my eye....

Thanks again!

-Bob

 

[GaryK]

I have had my r4s switched on my 4100 for years and have had no problem with axles etc. My mmm is a 60" and it clears just fine. I did notice that the rear wheels stick out past the fenders, that may be the reason the manual does not recommend switching the tires, CYA..... Oh, and this might be a stupid statement but don't forget to put the right wheel on the left and left on right when switching to wide stance to keep tires in proper rotation direction. I remember reading a post a few years ago where a dealer actually dismounted the tires to switch them instead of switching sides..... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[thebigc]

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HOw many hours on your '98? Anything major to keep an eye on?
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My R4 fronts have the "C" shaped shields over the valve stems, which won't clear the front hubs, so they can't be flipped. Like you said, there doesn't look to be much offset anyhow so it's not much of an issue.

I've got less than 400 hours on mine and no complaints. Two things I'd keep in mind: 1) The factory JD battery will leak like a sieve and the corrosion can damage radiator lines. I replaced the JD Strongbox with a yellow top Optima sealed AGM battery (51) and that solved that issue. 2) If you store your 4100 outdoors, keep the seat down and let the drain holes do their thing. If you tilt the seat up, rain will get into and destroy the seat switch which is a multi-prong unit that goes for almost $100.00.

All in all, I'm happy with the fact that after almost 400 hours and 7 1/2 years I don't know anything about my 4100's mechanicals except for routine maintenence. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Good luck with yours.

Donny