4100 question

[herbenus]

I have 6-1/2 acres and a 4200, but no MMM. I have adequate power. I mostly brushhog and move dirt. I really push the tractor when moving dirt, or gravel, or using fel to level drive. But it handles it. I'm sure I could get by with a 4100, but I do use the extra horses. In fact, I'm considering selling the 4200 in order to upgrade to a 4210, mainly because I want hydrostatic. I'm considering dropping down to a 4110 since at this point there really is no need for brushhogging and I would switch to a wider finish mower. For what it's worth. (Note when the time comes I doubt I will really trade it in for less horsepower. I don't think I have it in me.) And the price does sound good.

 

[ponygirl]

Well, I didn't want to spend more than 13k as I'm also land poor - clearing, ditch work, road work, seeding, well, and the list goes on.... What I'm now totally confused about is specs. I took a look at the 2210 and it has more engine than the 4010 & 4110 /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif The hp to the pto is the same for the 2210 and 4110 (4010 has less). I did notice the hydraulic flow is 5.5 for the 2210 and more for the 4110. I am such a newbie to tractors but it "seems" that the 2210 is more machine than the 4010? I apologize now for asking so many questions but I like being an informed potential buyer.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Ponygirl,

When looking at the 2210 vs. the 4010, you can't really say that one is "more" tractor than the other. As in many comparisons, each tractor is better at different tasks. The 2210 delivers more pto horsepower, but the 4010 has more capacity when using the loader. I also believe the 2210 has a limited category I 3 point vs the regular category I on the 4010. When I started shopping tractors I made the mistake of looking at big lawn tractors with horsepower in the 27 range. I soon realized that all the horsepower in the world does no good if you can't use it.

The 4010 and the 2210 are similar, but each has its distinct advantages. I'm not up to speed with connecting you to other posts in the site, but a fellow TBN'r (Subvet) went through much of the same comparison. His post(s) may be of some help if you can do a search.

Good Luck

Bob

 

[thcri]

Ponygirl,

I don't have much knowledge on the John Deere rigs but I do want to emphasize having a large enough tractor. (example) I purchased a TC21D New Holland which is about the same size as the 4100, maybe a little bit bigger than the 4100. I used it for mowing lawan and moving dirt with a FEL. I found that you couldn't move much dirt with the TC21D. It was just too small and even on level ground with too much dirt in the bucket you tend to take the back wheels off the ground and if you turn sharpe with the bucket up the tractor would start to tip over. So any way I ended up biting the bullet and taking the tractor back and I got a TC29D. I believe manure is heavier than just plain old dirt so you would tend to have more problems

Anyway another option would be to look for a little bit older tractor that is larger in size that you could get for less money, one that was taken good care of. Also you may want to look at some of the other tractors out there. When I was looking I was set on buying a JD4100 used, but then I checked out the New Holland dealer and I ended up getting the TC21D brand new for about $1,000.00 less. I also ended up trusting the dealer a lot more also. So even if the New Holland would have been more I think I would have gotten it yet because of the dealer.

Well I am starting to ramble here, I hope this helps you.

Murph

ps: my neighbor did buy a 2000 JD4100 with about 250 hours on it. It had a MMM, front blade, snow blower, turf tires Hydrostatic and he paid less than 11,000.00 delivered

 

[jyoutz]

Ponygirl, the 4100 (now 4110) is a heavier more durable model. Better ground clearance, 3PH and loader capacity. The extra HP may make a marginal difference in mowing, but both of these function quite well in the mowing Dept. What you need is more hydraulic capability (the 4100 has a lot more in this regard). I do agree about the toothbar-get one for digging. My recommendation: 4100 (4110) with 410 loader (54" bucket), toothbar and 60" mid-mount mower. If you can't afford this package initially, then save the mower purchase until next summer.

 

[rancar]

Ponygirl....

I spoke to a JD technician today about unrelated matters pertaining to my 4710 and thought I'd ask him for his opinion on the dilemma you're facing. His first reaction when asked the difference between the 2210 and the 4100 is "...Not Much.." Both are comparable in size, engine and PTO HP, lift capacity, etc. He further clarified that JD introduced the 2210 to directly compete with one of the newer Kubota models that was coming out (didn't mention which one nor which features JD was trying to emulate). What was interesting though was his remarks about JD always trying to play catch-up or stay one step ahead of the orange and blue machines....just like GM tries to always be 2 steps ahead of Ford and Chrysler.

Back on track now.....most features now in the 2210 missing in the 4100 is mostly cosmetic....that is, dash indicator lights easier to read, easier maneuvering in the operator compartment, FEL joystick easier to move, and addressing a FEL problem that existed with the 4100, that is loads tending to fall out of the bucket when in a raised position and curled backwards. Loads would tend to fall onto the 4100's hood. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

In ending the discussion, he seemed to bias the 4x10 series tractors. He simply thought they were better built machines. Hope this helps you out somewhat.

.....Bob