410C transmission wont pull

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KyleB83

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Anahuac, TX
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John Deere 410C Gehl 303 Mini, Bobcat T650, Kioti CK 35, Komatsu D53-16
Hey everyone, I just got my father in laws 410C back alive after 2 years and it won稚 pull in any gear in either direction.

Im scared its the clutches or the pump..

All the other hydraulics work smoothly..

Any suggestions?
 
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Kyle
:welcome: to TBN

How much history can you cough up about the 410C.. ??

What does "back alive" mean?

Some of your history in mechanical repair would help too. ;)
 
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He hadn稚 touched it in 2 years... I changed the fluids and batteries and got it to fire back up
 
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Kyle
:welcome: to TBN

Some of your history in mechanical repair would help too. ;)

I know my way around some stuff after 8 years working for Ford and Chevy..

I don't have a 10mm socket though ��
 
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Did it have a history of transmission issues when he quit running it or did it work ok? How does transmission oil look? DId you change that oil and filters?
 
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it was a "victim" to an extent of Hurricane Harvey. Water got to the oil pan. He drained the engine oil, and pulled the plate that holds the hydraulic fluid in 2 years ago and then had to have a back surgery. I have ordered a service manual for it, but I was under the impression the trans hydraulic filter, and the accessory hydraulics shared a filter. Is that not the case? If so, point me in the direction of that filter and it will be pulled and changed tomorrow! The one filter I took off was inside the canister that needed a 1 9/16 socket to get off. Located on the "driver" side right behind where the battery box is.

Thanks JD for a possible lead!
 
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Viewing 410C parts catalog reveals a reverser or powershift filter(AT67957). Did you locate/clean trans oil sump screen(key 3)?
 

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ok so now i am even more confused... I never even saw the reverser oil filter in the manual, so no, it hasnt been changed.. however, it was drained from that drain prior to changing the hydraulic filter.

now that I am sitting here thinking about it, i can say that the transaxle-hydraulic oil was NOT drained.. which also explains to me now why when we went back to add fluid, the transaxle fluid level overflowed after adding only a couple gallons.

not sure that it will matter, but may as well change that reverser filter, and go ahead and drain the transaxle fluid to get out any old oil

its amazing how easy it is to miss something in a book, and then have that OOPS moment when someone mentions it to you haha

Thanks Jim!
 
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Checking for condition of sump screen when oil is drained is very important.
 
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I drained the transaxle today and ordered the reverser filter..

The fluid was dark but didn稚 look or smell burnt.

Either way it will have all new fluid and filters.

Still can稚 imagine that will get it to pull itself again though.

I知 going to sit down with beer and the manual when the Phillies game starts tonight and read the whole operators manual and see if something jumps out at me
 

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