4110: How to get out of 4X4 drive

[Merrill]

Hello. I recently purchased a 2002 Mahindra 4110. When I have used it some, I have tried to move the lever to put it in 4 wheel drive but it would not budge. Then, the last time I was using it to bush hog, when I brought the tractor back to the shop, I noticed the 4 wheel drive lever had moved! I lift up the front end and noticed that the front wheels pulled with the back wheels! It was in 4 wheel drive! Now, I cannot get it to come out. I have raised the front wheels off the ground a little and with all gears in neutral, it appears to be locked. The 4 wheel drive lever will not move. (I thought by putting everying in neutral, this would give the gears freedom to move.) Any suggestions? Is there a "secret" to making the tractor go back to 2 wheel drive? Thanks for your help!

 

[4570Man]

If you have a loader try lifting the front tires off the ground.

 

[thclimer]

Try going back wards and turning left to right while applying pressure to the 4-wheel drive lever to make it go back to 2-wheel drive.

I think you said you had lifted the front wheels with the loader and that did not help. This has always worked for me, actually as soon as I lift the front wheels I see them rotate to relive their windup and the lever moves easily out of 4-wheel drive.

You can also go forward turning left to right again applying so pressure on the lever as you turn.

Can you see the linkage of the 4-wheel drive lever, maybe it needs lubrication.

 

[skipmarcy]

You have to be very gentle trying to move that 4x4 shifter - it WILL bend the shift fork inside the trans. I replaced a couple of them on mine over the years. You just have to be patient and move slightly back & forth from forward to reverse with LIGHT pressure on the shifter. Turning the steering wheel has absolutely nothing to do with the difficulty and will not help.

You have to drain the hydraulic oil and remove the cover from the left side of the trans that holds the shift fork assy to inspect the fork. The fork simply slides a small gear that is on the shaft that runs all the way from the rear differential up to and just out of the front trans where the external driveshaft connects and goes to the front diff. This gear is very simple with no syncronizer and engages to a gear that is part of the rear diff pinion shaft. That long internal driveshaft is supported by a small, $6 bearing (from NAPA) in the rear diff housing right next to the pinion shaft. If this bearing is worn or damaged too much the two gears won't engage/disengage easily or at all. I had to do a rear split on mine years ago to replace that bearing. That's what taught me to be VERY careful when shifting the 4x4. I had to heat and bend my 4x4 shifter to keep my left leg from resting against it while operating the tractor to keep from bending shift forks and haven't had to replace one in years now.

I also don't run on any pavement anymore so mine stays in 4x4 ALL the time now and it has worked well for years now, contrary to what some will say about that. My tractor is a 2001 model and has almost 3200 hrs. on it.

 

[Merrill]

You have to be very gentle trying to move that 4x4 shifter - it WILL bend the shift fork inside the trans. I replaced a couple of them on mine over the years. You just have to be patient and move slightly back & forth from forward to reverse with LIGHT pressure on the shifter. Turning the steering wheel has absolutely nothing to do with the difficulty and will not help.

You have to drain the hydraulic oil and remove the cover from the left side of the trans that holds the shift fork assy to inspect the fork. The fork simply slides a small gear that is on the shaft that runs all the way from the rear differential up to and just out of the front trans where the external driveshaft connects and goes to the front diff. This gear is very simple with no syncronizer and engages to a gear that is part of the rear diff pinion shaft. That long internal driveshaft is supported by a small, $6 bearing (from NAPA) in the rear diff housing right next to the pinion shaft. If this bearing is worn or damaged too much the two gears won't engage/disengage easily or at all. I had to do a rear split on mine years ago to replace that bearing. That's what taught me to be VERY careful when shifting the 4x4. I had to heat and bend my 4x4 shifter to keep my left leg from resting against it while operating the tractor to keep from bending shift forks and haven't had to replace one in years now.

I also don't run on any pavement anymore so mine stays in 4x4 ALL the time now and it has worked well for years now, contrary to what some will say about that. My tractor is a 2001 model and has almost 3200 hrs. on it.

Sir:
Thank you for your help. Your explanation about the 4X4 shifter was very helpful. The service manual explanation and drawings were of almost NO help. So, again, Thank You.

Now that I understand how this thing works, I was able to reassemble it and, like you said, just get everything out of gear with no pressure on the drive train, it will easily move from 2 to 4 wheel drive. I am so pleased.

Again, Thank You.

 

[skipmarcy]

You are more than welcome. I've been extremely fortunate that I was able to do all the repairs to my tractor over the years myself having been a professional auto mechanic - very used to diagnostics of all types and experienced enough to dive in and fake my way thru major repairs. As you said, shop manual info is/was terrible. I would not wish that rear split on our tractor to ANY layman - it was very taxing.

Hope your tractor gives you as much service as mine has over the years - even with all its' shortcomings it's been a real piece of equipment, my little bulldozer.