4110 Update- broken engine bolts

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skipmarcy

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Erin, Tenn.
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2001 Mahindra 4110
After a month of trying to get my tractor repaired, I finally did and have found out the reasons why I had so much trouble. I gave up on an answer from my letter to Mahindra and started calling them. I never got to talk to customer service but was directed to tech service and subsequently talked to one of their field service techs that was very knowledgeable and led me down the right path that repaired my tractor and explained why it all happened. First, Mahindra must have been aware of the stress problem at the engine joint as the loader manufacturer has designed additional frame braces to be installed, mine are supposedly on the way for me to install. Why I wasn't made aware of this update is unknown. After the first split of the tractor, which all I did was replace the broken bolts and look everything over, I had a terrible shift problem with alot of noise, like the clutch not disengaging all the way and/or bearings down. On the second split I replaced the pilot, release, and 2 input shaft bearings, they seemed fine but replaced them anyway - my clutch disc & plate all still looked great too. No good, same problem. 3rd split I replaced the clutch disc, maybe it was undetectably warped - no good, same problem. 4th split I replaced the pressure plate - no good, same problem. On the 5th and final split is when I got the big revelation from the tech - my pilot brg. was installed in the crankshaft instead of the flywheel !! He said he had seen some come thru like that, an assembly goof, the input shaft was unsupported at the clutch and wobbling around and dragging. Put the brg. in the right place, problem solved. I wondered why I never had the shift problem before the bolt problem and all I can figure is the input shaft was rigid enough to hold the clutch disc steady enough and then the bending stress from the broken bolts put excessive play in and it would no longer stabilize. It does shift better now than it ever has since new, I had always had a little trouble shifting with rpm's up for loader or bushog work, but always thought that was the nature of the beast. Like I said, I did not remove the pilot brg. on the first split, just stuck my finger in it to feel for roughness or tolerance - I was very suprised that it was in perfect condition considering the stress it would have had with the engine seperating from the plate, and of course when I did replace the bearing I put it back where it came from, wouldn't you ? So, after spending over $700 in parts and all the labor involved, I'm back in business, and all my problems came from assembly goofs at Mahindra. I'm waiting to see if they do anything for me to compensate, but I don't have my hopes up. I'll give them a couple more days to contact me before I call them again. I'll update when I hear something.
 
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Thanks for the update. Keep us updated on Mahindras action on this obvious manufacturing defect.
 
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Please follow up with the Mahindra response to this issue. If any manufacturer doesn't step up and do what's right, it needs to be made known.
 
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I agree. I would have thought that Mahindra would jump on this if it was a known problem. I am interested in seeing what Mahindra will do about it. I have always liked what I saw in them.

Maka
 
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Skipmarcy,
Do you have a dealer you are working with?
How old is your tractor?
How many hours are on it?
 
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My current closest dealer is a 3 1/2 hour drive from me and I am not dealing with them on my problems, am dealing directly with Mahindra. I was able to locate the parts I replaced in the aftermarket. My original selling dealer is 1,000 miles from me. I received my tractor in Feb. 2002 but I think it was probably manufactured in 2001, some of the paint was sun-faded where it obviously had been sitting awhile. At that time, Mahindra offered a 2 year warranty. I detected my bolt problem in March 2005 at 681 hours on the clock - had probably started maybe 25 - 50 hours before that, hard to guess, not an obvious problem to detect until it was severe.
 
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Skip
Go to the cub cadet section and read the thread on 7235 & 7275 engines breaking and excessive clutches. I don't know what year your tractor is, but this has been a known problem since about 1998. The cubs were built by mitsu and this has been a known problem for a while. Yours must be under warranty, as cub kind of says grin and bear it. Will take no responsibility for this shortfaLL in engineering. Cubhater
 
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Are you saying that your bellhousing bolts split? Or was it the loader mount bolts on the lower sides of the block?
 
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Is the 4110 a Mitsu product? I thought just the 15's were Mitsu?........?
 
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skipmarcy, all I can say is if I ever need
work on my tractor-I'm calling you-because
everything I work on, screws up.
 

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