4200 fuel in oil

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stingray1

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John Deere 4200 w/backhoe, Ford 3000,Case 580 backhoe
My 4200 is getting fuel in my crankcase. I'm thinking it is possibly a seal leaking in the injector pump,a ruptured diaphragm in the fuel pump or a leaking injector.Any help,advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
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Anyone else care to give an educated guess or have had this problem with the 4000 series.All help is appreciated.Thanks
 
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Fuel in oil is usually caused by an injector leaking down. Pull the injectors & have a diesel shop test them. They can confirm if the injectors are bad & rebuild them if necessary *** far less Thn what JD would charge.
 
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As it was said, 99% of the time this is a leaking injector.

When the injector leaks fuel, it puts more fuel in the cylinder than is intended to be there. It will inevitably make it's way past the rings on the pistons, and run down the walls of the cylinder liners, until it reaches the crankcase, where it will accumulate. A lot of times you can smell it before even checking the oil. The crankcase ventilation tube that gives off fumes from the crankcase will smell like diesel. This is my experience with much larger diesel engines than on these tractors, I am not even sure if these tractors have a crankcase vent that is open to the atmosphere?

A word of advice. If your replacing 1 injector, do ALL of them. 7 times out of 10, if you only do the bad one, a few months down the road, the others will go. You have to remember the other injectors have just as many hours on them as the one that went bad, they likely are not far behind. The engine would already be torn down and all fuel injectors easy to reach, don't pay to have the engine torn down multiple times, replace all of them in one go and forget about it.
 
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I hate to go against the majority, but in my experience the culprit has been usually the fuel transfer pump. Next in line would be the injection pump. If an injector is leaking enough to leak fuel past the rings, there should be other indications. Does the engine start normally and run normally?
 
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I hate to go against the majority, but in my experience the culprit has been usually the fuel transfer pump. Next in line would be the injection pump. If an injector is leaking enough to leak fuel past the rings, there should be other indications. Does the engine start normally and run normally?
I pulled the pump yesterday,took it apart and the diaphragm looked like new I was hoping for a little bit of luck and a quick fix but, I guess I can scratch that. The engine has around 750 hrs it starts up and runs normal.The way my luck has been going lately it's probably the injector pump.
 
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Anyone have any advice on testing the injectors and/or pulling the injector pump?
 
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Anyone else care to give an educated guess or have had this problem with the 4000 series.All help is appreciated.Thanks

Anyone?
 

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