4707 comparison chart

[LouNY]

I'm also curious about the other brands. Branson used to have a tractor this big, but for whatever reason, they don't anymore. I would like to have seen Kioti, Mahindra, LS, TYM and Zetor compared to the others too!!!

The Branson 8050;
bare weight dry (no loader) 7910 pounds,
Horsepower engine 78Hp,
PTO Hp 65 HP,
engine 4 cylinder 203 cu. in (3.4 liters) turbo charged,
hydraulics 14.5 gpm for the remotes,
PTO dual speed 5430 and 540E,
Clutches, wet multi disk power shuttle,
electric 3 point control on left rear fender,
Loader is a BL50 dry weight of 2246 pounds,
loader lift height 136 inchs to the bottom of a level bucket,
loader lift capacity at full lift 3970 pounds,
loader breakout capacity 5468 pounds,
front tires 11.2-24,
rear tires 18.4-30.

And now a lonely orphan


I guess the 7845 is an orphan now also;
for anyone interested

 

[EddieWalker]

I saw a used Branson that looked good in the ad, but was pretty beat up in person. I think it had a little over a thousand hours on it, but I looked at so many used tractors that I don't remember for sure. On paper, it really seemed to be an impressive tractor. I'm surprised that they stopped making them.

 

[LouNY]

They didn't sell very many 8050's in this country,
I've heard just around 1500 but that was a rumor only.
I do know that they had some "new" ones on the market for several years
that had been built in 2015 so they had been sitting for several years.

 

[WM75Guy]

I drove by the Massey dealer close to me yesterday and there are not any new tractors on the lot.

 

[Torvy]

No, not yet. Being that I wanted quite a few options, it had to be ordered. The dealer I use has 3 location all within 30 minutes of me and they had 12 on order. I got them to change one on order to my specs by giving a down payment. As it was the second longest on order, they are hoping it will be about 90 days, but I am hoping it isn't over 180 days. The way things are, there is no telling.

I had a similar experience as you at my Massey dealer. Talked to him about what I wanted. He quoted me something like 59k for a 2707 with cab (or whatever the 2 series model would be in 70HP as that was what they had on the lot). When I asked about R14's he said "we don't do those". I asked if he didn't or Massey didn't. His response was "we don't". I realized quickly he wasn't interested in selling me a tractor.

R14 is only available on Kubota as a dealer thing.

Titan secures fitment deal with Kubota

QUINCY, Ill.—Titan International has gained an exclusive fitment deal with Kubota Tractor for its Goodyear R14 "crossover" tires on select Kubota compact tractor models.

www.rubbernews.com

You could get them yourself separately.

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

I drove by the Massey dealer close to me yesterday and there are not any new tractors on the lot.

Strange. My local Massey dealer is loaded with new tractors. There must be four 4707s on the lot, let alone the other models.

 

[EddieWalker]

I drive by a Zetor, LS, Kubota, Case, Mahindra and sometimes, John Deere almost every day. Zetor is the only one with anything in stock. Last week, Kubota only had one tractor on their lot, and it looked like something in the 25 hp range. The next day, they had two, and the new one was a little bigger. They have a few more now, but it's still very limited. The others all have less then a dozen tractors on their lots. I'm wondering if East Texas is the last place to get anything?

 

[Boss 302]

If I were buying a new tractor it would be the 4700 series Massey, I almost bought a 4710 for what I thought was an excellent price but at the last minute decided that I didn't really need it.

 

[backwardb]

I looked at Deere, Kubota, New Holland, Branson, Kyoti, LS, and Massey. Was down to Massey, New Holland, and Deere. I just didn't like the Deere cab like I thought I would and the Powerstar was just too light. It's actually a little lighter than the Workmaster. As far as upgrading HP, the 50E series Deere above 75 HP went to 4 cylinder engines, the Massey 4707 and New Holland Powerstar 75 in series were the least HP of their respective series, but the weight of the Powerstar was a big factor it was much lighter than its bigger brothers.

I picked the Massey. Was hoping to get it today, but due to the uncertainty of the weather it may be Monday.

 

[choctawroseranch]

I will admit it weighs more, but like I said that isn't an advantage for me personally. I do a lot of work on my lawn areas and don't do much ground engaging work, so R1 just tear stuff up. The extra weight and the R1 would be even worse.

My M7060 Cab on order has 18 speeds (12 + creeper kit), air ride seat, front and rear wipers, larger alternator, R14 Radials on 34" rims, ePTO, two rear remotes, and third function. I suspect they are pretty close in features. My price at 0% was 54,100. I just ordered at the end of Nov.

what brand implements did you purchase w the 7060? I am zeroing in on the either the 7060 or 4707.

 

[Hozzie]

what brand implements did you purchase w the 7060? I am zeroing in on the either the 7060 or 4707.

I have different brands. I buy based on quality/value of the needed implement. I have Land Pride, Bush Hog, EA, Woods, and some others. I use a quick hitch with top tilt for all of them where it makes sense.

 

[Mike rich]

I cant speak for the other brands, but the Massey 4707 comes with everything listed, in its base model. I have one on order. Cash price was $51,500 and finance for 84 months at zero percent was $55,300

You wont find another 70 hp 4x4 cabbed tractor with all those features for anywhere that amount of money.

Where did u find one for that price?
Much more at this time in ny.

 

[EddieWalker]

From reading posts on here, I learned about a dealership named Bruno's. https://www.brunospowersports.com/

They have the reputation of being the lowest price dealer around. From posting questions on here, another member posted what he paid for his tractor from Bruno's. That gave me the starting number to go from.

Then I went on TractorHouse and did a search for 4707's for sale. I found a few with the price listed that fell in line with Bruno's. https://www.tractorhouse.com/listings/search/?Category=1100

From where I live, I figured out where all of the Massey Ferguson dealers where. I know some things about the closest one that I do not like. The next closest is also somebody that I don't want to deal with, but it's more third had stories. The next one after that is brand new, super competitive and all over FB and Youtube with a lot of videos. He has also posted prices for tractors, which very few people do, and his posted price for a 4707 was in the ballpark of Bruno's. He made that posting over the 4th of July weekend and I called him in November.

I asked him what he wanted for a Delux 4707 and he said $65,000 I expected this, so I asked him if he knew about Bruno's. That changed everything. He knows them very well, as I'm sure all of the Massey Ferguson dealers do. He then went into telling me how bad their service was, but how good his was and all of the usually sales stuff that I expected. I told him that Bruno's wasn't too far for me to drive up to, but he was closer and I would prefer a dealer closer then Bruno's. He said that he could work something out and he would send me a price the next day.

I locked in the price because I knew that inflation was out of control and it would be several months before it arrived. Maybe longer. Our government hates us, so it's now or never, if you want to get ahead. Since then, I've seen prices increase several grand. I think that whatever it costs today, it will be a lot more by Summer.

Since I signed the papers on mine, my dealer has had two 4707's come in that other people had locked in before I did. I'm not sure how many others are ahead of me, but everything that he gets in is already sold.

 

[gsganzer]

Funny how dealers can be so off putting when somebody wants to buy a tractor. The closest Massey dealer to me isn't somebody that I want to deal with. I know a few people that worked there and they explained to me why nobody should ever buy from them. The next closest one doesn't seem to be interesting is selling anything. The one I ordered mine from is an hour away from me. Once I decided on what I wanted, it became a challenge trying to find somebody to give my money to!!!

Eddie,
I wonder if part of the issue is with how the MF dealer network is set up. Back in 2003 when I was looking for a subcompact, I was going back and forth between the Massey and Kubota offering. I went to 2 different Massey dealers to look at their model and they were both some of the most sour people I've ever dealt with. They were both mad at Massey grouching about other dealers being able to sell their inventory etc. I'm not sure if that's changed now. I can sympathize with you that sometimes it seems like a challenge to try to trade your money with someone.

When I bought my Kubota L3800, I wanted to buy from my local dealer, but they had already transitioned to the new L3901 (DPF and regen) and didn't offer up that they might have a slightly different model that was pre-tier 4. I ended up buying a L3800 from a dealer over an hour away at a great price. Fortunately, with it being a quality product, neither of my Kubota's have ever needed to go to a dealer for repairs. I've only had typical worn hoses or some other simple fixes I've done myself (thanks to help from the TBN braintrust).

I'm interested though in how your MF4707 avoids some of the emissions stuff. Based on the chart you posted, it has EGR, but doesn't have a DPF or DEF. How are they able to do that? It sounds like you have a heck of a tractor coming, as I would never want DPF or DEF if I could avoid it. The spec's that matter on that chart all seemed to lean in MF's favor.